Reading with Style discussion

This is the thread to ask any questions regarding our sub-challenge, Fabulous Firsts.

Titles that start with X, Y, or Z (has links to lists with other letters)

Popsugar 2021 #32 - A Book Whose Title Starts with Q, X, or Z

It is *highly* recommended that you check the MPE for your titles before you finalize your list. Though it happens rarely, the most popular English language print edition may have a different title than the one on your shelves. I would hate for this to happen to you that would disqualify a read.

Bumping this as you wouldn't have gotten a notification of Post #2 Update.

For those of you who might choose to do this more than once, you may use an author again in subsequent rounds.

When a book is edited by.... We usually say for tasks it is authored by the person whose name shows up in the field for Goodreads. Like Passages is "by" Mercedes Lackey So would be a P-M pairing (except I already read it...)?

And I note the bonus is non-fiction, not not-a-novel so the above collection of short stories would not qualify for +5 but poetry will?

Beth wrote: "When a book is edited by.... We usually say for tasks it is authored by the person whose name shows up in the field for Goodreads. Like Passages is "by" [author:Mercedes Lackey|8685..."

Yes, as to the author. For scorekeeping, we couple the title with the first named author even if an editor.

I'll get back to you on the non-fiction question.

Beth wrote: "And I note the bonus is non-fiction, not not-a-novel "

Not-a-novel will be applied as the per book bonus.

Can we use authors who publish with initials and not first or middle name?

Norma wrote: "Can we use authors who publish with initials and not first or middle name?"

Yes. For those the first initial is your key.

Is Qiu Xiaolong Q or X??

Deedee wrote: "Is Qiu Xiaolong Q or X??"

Thank you for asking this. Though his family name is Qiu, we will be looking at him as if that is his first name only because that is how he is pubilshed and how we will carry it scorekeeping.

You should consider him for Q.

(I hope he isn't offended.)

Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Deedee wrote: "Is Qiu Xiaolong Q or X??"

Thank you for asking this. Though his family name is Qiu, we will be looking at him as if that is his first name only because that is how he ..."

Wow that was quick! Thanks for answering.

Ed: This doesn't work.

10. C - E: Come Back to the 5 & Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean by Ed Graczyk

Bea. These two don't work.

15.8 g-k The Ghosts of Elkhorn by Kerry Newcomb
15.9 f-b Flight Behavior by Barbara Kingsolver

Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Ed: This doesn't work.

10. C - E: Come Back to the 5 & Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean by Ed Graczyk"

ah...yes....thanks. One of the other books I first had slated in wasn't available....so, I already substituted that one.

Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Ed: This doesn't work.

10. C - E: Come Back to the 5 & Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean by Ed Graczyk"

I just replaced #1 and #10.

You fixed #10, but now this won't work. (But it's very good, so find a place for it somewhere sometime!)

1. H - A: Hotel Silence by Auður Ava Ólafsdóttir

Ahhhhh...how could I make the same mistake! LOL...Thanks for checking...and the recommendation to read Hotel Silence.

ok...I think I have the replacement now....The Counterfeiter and Other Stories by Yasushi Inoue

Ed wrote: "ok...I think I have the replacement now....The Counterfeiter and Other Stories by Yasushi Inoue"

That'll work!

Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Bea. These two don't work.

15.8 g-k The Ghosts of Elkhorn by Kerry Newcomb
15.9 f-b Flight Behavior by Barbara Kingsolver"

Got it! Dang...I need more coffee.

Elizabeth, I have corrected 15.8 and 15.9 in my plan (post 5). I think I am OK now.

Books like 1776 or 1st to Die - would we consider starting with S and F?

Kim wrote: "Books like 1776 or 1st to Die - would we consider starting with S and F?"

Sorry, numbers won't work for this sub-challenge.

Bea wrote: "Elizabeth, I have corrected 15.8 and 15.9 in my plan (post 5). I think I am OK now."

Looks good, Bea.

Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Bea wrote: "Elizabeth, I have corrected 15.8 and 15.9 in my plan (post 5). I think I am OK now."

Looks good, Bea."

Thanks. If I finish the sub-challenge, I will be reading a bunch of books I have been avoiding. However, I must admit that Covid has had me doing just that, since I own most of them, and I have found books that I have really enjoyed!

Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Ed wrote: "ok...I think I have the replacement now....The Counterfeiter and Other Stories by Yasushi Inoue"

Ed, I noticed you have the letter T twice...

Oh, good catch, Rosemary!

Rosemary wrote: "Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Ed wrote: "ok...I think I have the replacement now....The Counterfeiter and Other Stories by Yasushi Inoue"

Ed, I noticed you have the let..."

Oh Boy! Thanks for catching that Rosemary! Back to the drawing board.

OK...I edited my plan again....replaced #4.... I think I have it right this time.... but could someone check again since I seem to have a blind spot on this task.

I like that you listed the letters used beneath your plan. I don't see any problems, but I missed the duplicate T, so anyone else wants to give it the once over ...

Everyone has a list of interesting books. I've already added some to my over burdened wish list!

Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "I like that you listed the letters used beneath your plan. I don't see any problems, but I missed the duplicate T, so anyone else wants to give it the once over ...."

I don't see any problems now either!

Rosemary wrote: "Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "I like that you listed the letters used beneath your plan. I don't see any problems, but I missed the duplicate T, so anyone else wants to give it the once over ...."

I ..."

Thanks Rosemary and Elizabeth!

Jane Yolen edited a trio of all-new-stories (by different authors) short story collections: Xanadu, Xanadu 2 and Xanadu 3. Would they all work for
J - X ?
(as I'm determined to use "X" in this challenge!)

Deedee wrote: "Jane Yolen edited a trio of all-new-stories (by different authors) short story collections: Xanadu, Xanadu 2 and Xanadu 3. Would they all w..."

Yes! And well done for being able to use the X!

I don't see a listing for The Underdog and Other Stories at BPL.

Does this mean I'm the clear to use? I know some of the Christie's get caught up in the YA category and this one doesn't have a Lexile either.

Thanks!

Rachel wrote: "I don't see a listing for The Underdog and Other Stories at BPL.

Does this mean I'm the clear to use? I know some of the Christie's get caught up in the YA category and this one doesn..."

You're clear to use because we are no longer checking short story collections. But you are also correct that if BPL doesn't shelve a title we don't check the Lexile.

Kim, this won't work because Kindred is a YA Assignment at BPL and has a Lexile of 580.

O-K Kindred Octavia E. Butler

Hi there, I'm a longtime lurker planning to join in the challenge for the first time in the Spring. I want to use The Hunchback of Notre-Dame for H-V for this sub-challenge and would like to clarify that I'm handling it correctly.

The MPE is called The Hunchback of Notre-Dame, but the original title (and the title on the Bloom Canon) is Notre-Dame of Paris. The Bloom Canon matters for this one because it does have a YA BPL shelving and I'm not finding it in Lexile (only seems to be abridged/illustrated/otherwise adapted editions there).

So my question is can this book be used for H-V, or is it really an N-V and therefore not a fit for the sub-challenge?

Bucket wrote: "Hi there, I'm a longtime lurker planning to join in the challenge for the first time in the Spring. I want to use The Hunchback of Notre-Dame for H-V for this sub-challenge and would l..."

Hi Bucket, and welcome! Yes, we go by the MPE so that H-V is the correct combination of letters. And that it is on Bloom's Canon means BPL shelving and Lexile is irrelevant.

Great, thank you!

Kim, sorry I didn't catch this when I was looking earlier. Both these letters are in the same half of the alphabet.

N-Y Year One (Chronicles of The One, #1) Nora Roberts

Would this work for K - T :
The Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson
Basically, does "The" count for "T"? Thanks

Deedee wrote: "Would this work for K - T :
The Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson
Basically, does "The" count for "T"? Thanks"

Yes. You may use leading articles in this game when it works for you.

Could I please have a ruling on whether The Inimitable Jeeves counts as a novel or not for the 5 bonus points?

There are longer descriptions of the book here: The Inimitable Jeeves
and here: The Inimitable Jeeves

Rosemary wrote: "Could I please have a ruling on whether The Inimitable Jeeves counts as a novel or not for the 5 bonus points?

There are longer descriptions of the book here: [book:The Inimitable ..."

Yes. Some of the reviews refer to stories as well.

If I have A-T can I use the title Ten Little Indians by Agatha Christie? My version says Ten Little Indians instead of And Then There Were None. I wanted to double check.

Jayme(the ghost reader) wrote: "If I have A-T can I use the title Ten Little Indians by Agatha Christie? My version says Ten Little Indians instead of And Then There Were None. I wanted to double check."

No, sorry. The MPE is And Then There Were None, but even so it has a Lexile of 570 so can't be used in the sub-challenge.

okay, thank you. I will find something else.

I saw in the Completed Posts thread that One of Us Is Lying was grandfathered in re: Lexile.
Does that only apply to receiving Style points or could I use it in the subchallenge despite its below-800 Lexile rating?

Anika wrote: "I saw in the Completed Posts thread that One of Us Is Lying was grandfathered in re: Lexile.
Does that only apply to receiving Style points or could I use it in the subchallenge des..."

In this context, "grandfathered" means it was added to the database before it was shelved as YA/Juv at BPL or has been removed as such (some Christies as to this latter, for example). Once in the database without a Lexile note of any kind it will forever remain. No Lexile score it may have will be attached. The title can be used for both styles and sub-challenges.

Books don't get into the database without someone posting and claiming at some point. The "Hot off the Press" tasks have helped!

I've tried to word this carefully, please note! ;-)