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Forthcoming Themes:

Theme 292 - You Make Me Feel Like Dancing - Song titles containing one of the following words: dance(s), dancing or dancer(s) - Val
Theme 293 - It's all Greek to me - song titles featuring a named world language (not fictional.extraterrestrial eg Klingon and not sung IN a foreign language) - Brass Neck
Theme 294 - There's a place - song titles with a well-known landmark included (either a natural site or man-made). Famous thoroughfares are fine, but not some generic street/road, and entire cities etc are also out. - Tim
Theme 295 - Contain yourself - Song titles that reflect a storage container, i.e. lunchbox, coffin, toolbox. - TheFoe
Theme 296 - Wildcard Round 12
Theme 297 - Theme 296 - Top Of The Pops (Resurrection Special) - your favourite TOTP appearance - must MUST be accompanied with a clip from TOTP (any sight or sound of the beast, s******, will result in disqualification.) - Tech
Theme 299 - Fossil Fools - any song title featuring one of the three fossil hydrocarbon fuels or their derivatives - coal, gas or oil (petrol, diesel, gasoline, kerosene, etc) - Brass Neck
Theme 300 - My Mate 808 - songs featuring a drum machine; no human drummers in earshot please - Helen
Theme 301 - A Good Year - songs that feature years in their titles (e.g. In the Year 2525 - Zager & Evans, Winter of '79 - Tom Robinson Band, etc.) or first line of their lyrics (e.g. Lonely Boy - Andrew Gold, Riot in Cell Block #9 - The Robins, etc.) - Gordon
Theme 302 - Ain't - er, that's it, songs with ain't in the title - Brass Neck
Theme 303 – Unaccompanied intros – songs which start with just vocals – Fishy Jim
Theme 304 - Gee Whizzed - song titles with a missin' verb endin' (from the definitely not bullyin' Priti Patel school of speakin') - Brass Neck
Theme 305 - "Songbird Songbook" - Song titles featuring a songbird in them - LeDuke
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Nominations thread link:
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
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Hello and welcome to another Sunday evening.

Okay then, Fishy Jim provides the next theme; and unlike as in the heading which i had to truncate it to fit the character limit, here it is in full:

'High dynamism - a song which features a moment which particularly stands out. It could be just be an instrumental 'sting' or phrase, a dramatic pause followed by an explosive continuation, or a sudden change of direction - an audio 'handbrake turn' if you will. An example of a dynamic moment is the drum fill from Phil Collins' In The Air Tonight'

I'm not sure, but this one feels a little deja vu to me, i could've sworn we did something similar to this, not all that long ago...but i could be wrong.

Anyhoo..your offerings and links if your please, thank you.

And as ever i shall be back on Wednesday as usual. See ya then.

Does the arpeggio in Badge count?

Badge - Cream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSpW6...

efterbrass,

heavy rock drops in to say hello/goodbye.

Badge - Cream
Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue - Ramones

https://youtu.be/rf6Yv4lMhhs

To Duke's point, previously I think we did one with sudden stops (which would also fit into this theme), but this includes other sudden changes.
To Brass neck's enquiry - I'd say the pause and change in direction, plus the way the final note is left hanging is sufficiently dynamic to qualify.
I'm assuming that Tech is considering the acapella bit to be the dynamic point. I'll go with that.

How about Lionel Richie's "Ooo" followed by the solo in the Commodore's Easy?
How about the two note "Some call me Maurice" wolf whistle slide in Steve Miller's The Joker?
How about that brief bit in Hendrix's All Along The Watchtower with the slide(?) moving up and down the neck to create a swooping sound?
How about the end of Rush's 2112 where a voice booms "Attention all planets of the solar system; we have assumed control, we have ......."?
Johnny Greenwood's chunka chunka riff before the chorus in Radiohead's Creep has to be a contender?

After Fishy Jim

I have to say that I really struggled to find a nomination for this theme. I'm sure I've been stopped in my tracks many a time by something amazing in a song, but I could only think of two songs - one nobody here would give the time of day to and the other has been nominated that many times that everyone would boycott it for just that reason. So I hope this is okay (if not, I'll go back to the drawing board and try again) - even if it is also well known. It's a slightly hippy-ish sweet ballad and then, during the bridge, the electric guitar suddenly soars (around 3:52) to another planet. And if that's not enough, it's followed by a sax solo before the vocals return.

Badge - Cream
Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue - Ramones
Losing Grip - Avril Lavigne
Year of the Cat - Al Stewart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqZc7...

"I'm assuming that Tech is considering the acapella bit"

well, glad it qualifies regardless, but you wrong! i was going for the unramoney guitar riff after 12345678 (0.34), but hey ho!

after Val

Regarded by more than one band member as perhaps the finest piece they ever recorded, it's a hard choice to nail down any particular dynamic moment in 'Awaken' as the whole song is filled with them; from Jon Anderson's first entry, floating over the music (0:42) to Steve Howe's descending guitar figure (beginning at 1:34) and Jon's answering ascending vocal line (from 2:00) to Steve's solo (from 2:49) etc. Then there's the quiet, reflective central section from 6:34 to 10:35, featuring the percussion section on (not sure which) high pitched tubular bells or finger cymbals, which is succeeded by Rick's church organ section , and the 'like the time I ran away' vocal beginning at 14:37 with the drum rolls after the 15:00 mark, ending with Steve's guitar close at 15:18. Just magic.

Badge - Cream
Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue - Ramones
Losing Grip - Avril Lavigne
Year of the Cat - Al Stewart
Awaken - Yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G42-q...

After Tim, 'Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh' 3.29

Badge - Cream
Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue - Ramones
Losing Grip - Avril Lavigne
Year of the Cat - Al Stewart
Awaken - Yes
Don't Leave Me This Way - The Communards (feat Sarah Jane Morris)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RHBA...

yeah, tim, votes from me!

After The Foe,

Badge - Cream
Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue - Ramones
Losing Grip - Avril Lavigne
Year of the Cat - Al Stewart
Awaken - Yes
Don't Leave Me This Way - The Communards (feat Sarah Jane Morris)
Phantom in the Valley - Howlin' Rain

https://youtu.be/sn-XlWowvlo

Tech XXIII wrote: "yeah, tim, votes from me!"

Are there ANY from you yet?

For me, this song has many dynamic moments, but I s'pose the main change happens at approx the 9min mark 'til the 12min mark. Hope this is suitable, I struggled with this theme.
Sorry it's a long one. No, it's not prog. :-)

Badge - Cream
Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue - Ramones
Losing Grip - Avril Lavigne
Year of the Cat - Al Stewart
Awaken - Yes
Don't Leave Me This Way - The Communards (feat Sarah Jane Morris)
Phantom in the Valley - Howlin' Rain
Weekender - Flowered Up

"Come on baby
Gotta play with me
Well I'm your live wire, yeah
You better lock your doors
I'm on the prowl tonight
Well be mine tonight..."

After Rob

Badge - Cream
Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue - Ramones
Losing Grip - Avril Lavigne
Year of the Cat - Al Stewart
Awaken - Yes
Don't Leave Me This Way - The Communards (feat Sarah Jane Morris)
Phantom in the Valley - Howlin' Rain
Live Wire - Mötley Crüe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahq4b...

Badge - Cream
Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue - Ramones
Losing Grip - Avril Lavigne
Year of the Cat - Al Stewart
Awaken - Yes
Don't Leave Me This Way - The Communards (feat Sarah Jane Morris)
Phantom in the Valley - Howlin' Rain
Weekender - Flowered Up
Live Wire - Mötley Crüe

After Helen

Badge - Cream
Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue - Ramones
Losing Grip - Avril Lavigne
Year of the Cat - Al Stewart
Awaken - Yes
Don't Leave Me This Way - The Communards (feat Sarah Jane Morris)
Phantom in the Valley - Howlin' Rain
Weekender - Flowered Up
Live Wire - Mötley Crüe
Rage Against The Machine - Killing In the Name Of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWXaz...

Plenty of dynamic moments, but the one I'm nominating this for is the refrain that begins around 4.15 minutes in.

Brass Neck wrote: "How about Lionel Richie's "Ooo" followed by the solo in the Commodore's Easy?
How about the two note "Some call me Maurice" wolf whistle slide in Steve Miller's The Joker?
How about that brief bit ..."

Some of those are valid. The Commodores 'Ooo' is a definite yes. Not so much the Joker wolf whistle, because it flows with the song, rather than punches out from it.

Helen The Melon wrote: "For me, this song has many dynamic moments, but I s'pose the main change happens at approx the 9min mark 'til the 12min mark. Hope this is suitable, I struggled with this theme.
Sorry it's a long ..."

I'm not hearing a sudden dramatic change here, Helen. it just seems to shift into a quieter section for three minute or so.

What I was looking for with this was sudden moments that stand out rather than just transitions from one section of the song to the next, unless they happen with a 'bang'.

Rob wrote: "After The Foe,

Badge - Cream
Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue - Ramones
Losing Grip - Avril Lavigne
Year of the Cat - Al Stewart
Awaken - Yes
Don't Leave Me This Way - The Communards (feat Sarah Jane M..."

I may be missing something, but isn't that just a change of musical style, rather than a dynamic moment?

Tech XXIII wrote: ""I'm assuming that Tech is considering the acapella bit"

well, glad it qualifies regardless, but you wrong! i was going for the unramoney guitar riff after 12345678 (0.34), but hey ho!"

Well that didn't sound suddenly dramatically different, which was what I was after. To be honest, the acapella bit doesn't exactly leap out at you, but I was prepared to go with it.

Just changed my nom. Out goes Avril Lavigne and in comes...

Badge - Cream
Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue - Ramones
Year of the Cat - Al Stewart
Awaken - Yes
Don't Leave Me This Way - The Communards (feat Sarah Jane Morris)
Phantom in the Valley - Howlin' Rain
Weekender - Flowered Up
Live Wire - Mötley Crüe
Nothing At Best - The Pineapple Thief

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjJxS...

The bit at 1:49

Fishy_Jim wrote: "I'm not hearing a sudden dramatic change here, Helen. it just seems to shift into a quieter section for three minute or so.

What I was looking for with this was sudden moments that stand out rather than just transitions from one section of the song to the next, unless they happen with a 'bang'."

Ok, I'll remove it. I guess I'm interpreting this theme rather differently - changes in tempo, mood, musical style etc. are moments that stand out to me. Don't know where to go from here. Soz.

Badge - Cream
Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue - Ramones
Year of the Cat - Al Stewart
Awaken - Yes
Don't Leave Me This Way - The Communards (feat Sarah Jane Morris)
Phantom in the Valley - Howlin' Rain
Live Wire - Mötley Crüe
Nothing At Best - The Pineapple Thief

Fishy_Jim wrote: "To Duke's point, previously I think we did one with sudden stops (which would also fit into this theme), but this includes other sudden changes.
To Brass neck's enquiry - I'd say the pause and chan..."

Actually i believe i was thinking of Tech's nom Theme 249 - "Your Dennis Hopper Moment", which to me at least, had a similar feel to this one. But no matter...it's good to recycle old stuff! ;-)

There's quite a few songs i've previously nominated before that could fit this theme....so maybe i could take the recycling factor up a gear?

Jim, surely 'a moment that particularly stands out' stands out to the person nominating that particular song??

Where's my feckin nom gone?

As a one time forum legend said 'Calamities'

Serial wrote: "Where's my feckin nom gone?"

Eloquently put.

Solution;

Badge - Cream
Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue - Ramones
Year of the Cat - Al Stewart
Awaken - Yes
Don't Leave Me This Way - The Communards (feat Sarah Jane Morris)
Phantom in the Valley - Howlin' Rain
Live Wire - Mötley Crüe
Killing In the Name Of - Rage Against The Machine
Nothing At Best - The Pineapple Thief

Frillies In A Twist alert!

Put it back in, you wallie!

Edit: The other wallie's done it for you.

Brass Neck wrote: "Serial wrote: "Where's my feckin nom gone?"

Eloquently put."

Thanks, Brass, I aim to please.

"Put it back in, you wallie!" I bet you say that to all the boys.

Collette wrote: "Frillies In A Twist alert!

Put it back in, you wallie!"

These days it's just not as acceptable to 'put it back in' without permission, signed, dated etc etc.........
In the good ol' 'top of the pops days', things were different.

I'm always waiting for the part at 2.30 when all the band come in.

Badge - Cream
Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue - Ramones
Year of the Cat - Al Stewart
Awaken - Yes
Don't Leave Me This Way - The Communards (feat Sarah Jane Morris)
Phantom in the Valley - Howlin' Rain
Live Wire - Mötley Crüe
Killing In the Name Of - Rage Against The Machine
Nothing At Best - The Pineapple Thief
Copperhead Road - Steve Earle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvaEJ...

Starts off as a solid rock n roll song..then part way switches to a Bo Diddley song, then back again..for absolutely no reason!

Badge - Cream
Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue - Ramones
Year of the Cat - Al Stewart
Awaken - Yes
Don't Leave Me This Way - The Communards (feat Sarah Jane Morris)
Phantom in the Valley - Howlin' Rain
Live Wire - Mötley Crüe
Killing In the Name Of - Rage Against The Machine
Nothing At Best - The Pineapple Thief
Copperhead Road - Steve Earle
White Castle Blues - The Smithereens

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70K8U...

This theme may be difficult to interpret for some of us and I know some posters had trouble with my theme of "something aesthetically beautiful", but, in the end, most folk don't vote for the tracks that best exemplify the theme, they vote for the tracks they like or that best align with their preferred style of music.

Collette wrote: "Jim, surely 'a moment that particularly stands out' stands out to the person nominating that particular song??"

Collette wrote: "Jim, surely 'a moment that particularly stands out' stands out to the person nominating that particular song??"

I suppose it's a question of interpretation. What I had in mind was a sudden dynamic moment or change rather than just a transition. Something that just leaps out and grabs your attention.

theDuke wrote: "Starts off as a solid rock n roll song..then part way switches to a Bo Diddley song, then back again..for absolutely no reason!

Badge - Cream
Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue - Ramones
Year of the Cat ..."

To me, that's not a dynamic moment, it's a stylistic change. I'm beginning to think I shouldn't have tried this theme. What I had in mind and how it has been interpreted are quite different.

Val wrote: "This theme may be difficult to interpret for some of us and I know some posters had trouble with my theme of "something aesthetically beautiful", but, in the end, most folk don't vote for the track..."

True, but then if the track isn't following the intended theme, then what's the point in having a theme?

Fishy_Jim wrote: "To me, that's not a dynamic moment, it's a stylistic change. I'm beginning to think I shouldn't have tried this theme. What I had in mind and how it has been interpreted are quite different."

The obvious question is, other than your own nom Jim, has anybody come close to your intention?

Fishy_Jim wrote: "I suppose it's a question of interpretation. What I had in mind was a sudden dynamic moment or change rather than just a transition. Something that just leaps out and grabs your attention.

To me, that's not a dynamic moment, it's a stylistic change. I'm beginning to think I shouldn't have tried this theme. What I had in mind and how it has been interpreted are quite different."

Sorry Jim, I'm being utterly dim as usual but I have no idea what you're really after. I have even listened to the track you have nominated (three times!) and the part you have highlighted wouldn't have stood out to me at all if you hadn't pointed it out. I obviously don't hear what you're hearing. To me, it's just an integral part of that song. :-(

What about a dire, but mercifully short, cheesy guitar solo that spoils a song?

Or a v slight lull followed by a lovely, but sadly short, jangly guitar solo?

What about someone howling/screaming?

Sorry to be a pain.

Would this be an opportune moment to sound the deafening 'Pedantry Alarm'?

(Asking for a friend)

I hearby relinquish any personal constraints on how people chose to interpret my theme. Go with what feels right for you. I won't check anymore. Next time I'm going to go with something that isn't open to misconception. I've already got an idea for it. It'll be clear as mud. Honest! :-)

Ok Jim thanks for clearing that up! Still don't know what to pick really. Not a clue. I'll just go with this piece of top quality '80s synthpop/new wave cheese, which has a horrendous (but short) stupid guitar solo at the 2.45ish mark. Stands out for all the wrong reasons.

Badge - Cream
Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue - Ramones
Year of the Cat - Al Stewart
Awaken - Yes
Don't Leave Me This Way - The Communards (feat Sarah Jane Morris)
Phantom in the Valley - Howlin' Rain
Live Wire - Mötley Crüe
Killing In the Name Of - Rage Against The Machine
Nothing At Best - The Pineapple Thief
Copperhead Road - Steve Earle
White Castle Blues - The Smithereens
Send Me An Angel - Real Life

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hwfErYU...

Edit: Got to be the original '83 version.

Fishy_Jim wrote: "theDuke wrote: "Starts off as a solid rock n roll song..then part way switches to a Bo Diddley song, then back again..for absolutely no reason!

Badge - Cream
Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue - Ramones
..."

No worries...would Mark Knopler's guitar solo from Calling Elvis qualify?

theDuke wrote: "Fishy_Jim wrote: "theDuke wrote: "Starts off as a solid rock n roll song..then part way switches to a Bo Diddley song, then back again..for absolutely no reason!

Badge - Cream
Now I Wanna Sniff So..."

See FJ's earlier post - owt goes; if you think it fits, it fits.

" owt goes; if you think it fits, it fits."

Spoken like a true man of the world, Brass.

Fishy_Jim wrote: "True, but then if the track isn't following the intended theme, then what's the point in having a theme?..."

You're absolutely right. Sometimes I wonder if the poster has read the theme in detail. I have often refrained from giving points to a song I like because I felt it didn't fit the theme it was supposed to be referring to. But, I still think the winner is likely to be the track most posters like rather than the one that best fits the theme. Unfortunate, but true.

Right, hello all. A little tardy..again.

Some of us struggled with this one, including me it seems, so i hope what has been nom'd will suffice. 12 nominations all told, thus voters get to use up to 4 votes for this week.

Playlist:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...

Voting list:

Badge - Cream
Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue - Ramones
Year of the Cat - Al Stewart
Awaken - Yes
Don't Leave Me This Way - The Communards (feat Sarah Jane Morris)
Phantom in the Valley - Howlin' Rain
Live Wire - Mötley Crüe
Killing In the Name Of - Rage Against The Machine
Nothing At Best - The Pineapple Thief
Copperhead Road - Steve Earle
White Castle Blues - The Smithereens
Send Me An Angel - Real Life

Enjoy or not, and i'll see y'all on Sunday.

i appreciate the concept, jim, without denegrating anyone, it's a pain in the pisser when a theme doesn't materialise like the vision you have.

2 - c.ommunards
1 - r.a.t.machine

Badge - Cream
Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue - Ramones
Year of the Cat - Al Stewart
Awaken - Yes
Don't Leave Me This Way - The Communards (feat Sarah Jane Morris) - 2
Phantom in the Valley - Howlin' Rain
Live Wire - Mötley Crüe
Killing In the Name Of - Rage Against The Machine - 1
Nothing At Best - The Pineapple Thief
Copperhead Road - Steve Earle
White Castle Blues - The Smithereens
Send Me An Angel - Real Life