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Okay! Great, I'm currently at chapter 11, I'll write my thought in the evening

OKAY HERE I GO,
Spoilers till chapter 6
(view spoiler)[Okay so I don't like the fact that gaining one half of the locket was kind of easy? I mean 16 years old girl took it without a real fight to be honest and how is it possible that Howard was that dumb??? But tbh she's kind of giving me Caleana Sardothien vibes from Throne of Glass
Another thing - Mather - I lowkey love you but just can't get myself completely in love with you.. do sth to change that because deep down I know you deserve it <3 And I can't wait for more scenes between you and Meira (hide spoiler)]

Spoilers chapter 9
(view spoiler)[ Another annoying fact - she just met maids and one of them is already telling her stuff about the king? That doesn't seem reliable.. (hide spoiler)]

Spoilers chapter 10
(view spoiler)[THERON BABY, I CONNECTED WITH YOU ON INSTANT, I feel like we'll become really close friend if you know what I mean ;)
But the poem, we can clearly see that he hates his father and his life and wants something different, not to be a ruler one day ALSO giving me Dorian's vibes Throne of Glass (hide spoiler)]

Spoilers chapter 11
(view spoiler)[ Okay actually what the f***? Mather?? I thought it's gonna be something but how could you? I understand you need help but I know you love her?? How could you do that. On the other hand, I still haven't decided if I'm team Mather or Theron, tho lowkey I'm learning more toward the prince of Cordell.
Meira - another annoying fact - what a quick change from wanting to run to Theron to grasping his hand? Unrealistic again.
Mather, I see you're angry at seeing her with him "grining his teth" "looking away" - just talk with her, EXPLAIN YOURSELF TO US.
MEIRA POPPING OFF, SHOW THAT PRICK NOAM WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT YOU'RE CAPABLE OF!
Okay, Mather seems like a good guy and I sensed pain in him - that hand on her back... - but I just can't get myself to love them together and every time I see Theron I smile so wide.
THERON MY SWEET BAE, AT THE END.. omg I just hope you won't turn out to be a bad guy because I'm falling for you.. He's completely different from his father, I know he'd be completely different king, he'll probably help Meira and he just wants to make her feel good. That's so hot tbh. He's constantly reassuring her that everything will be fine, ohhh my heart.
And we can see Sir is hurt by all that and he's arguing with Mather. I just wonder if it was Mather's idea.. because he's so angry that he had to "sell" Meira...
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Chapter 12
(view spoiler)[Why is Hannah talking to meira and what does she want her to do? Can angra watch others? If yes then how did he not find them yet.
Sir's reasonings... Okay I get it it was their last chance but they could at least tell her and why not tell at the beginning it wasn't Mather's idea
Shirtless Theron, I don't mind at all
Now shirtless Mather? Is it a day to celebrate 👀
But the way the author described it.. MATHER'S ARMS COULD SNAP A COWS NECK, I'M SORRY I AM DYING - WHAT IS THAT
Um yess fight for her, shirtless, I'm waiting
NOT YOU THERON TRYING TO IMPRESS MEIRA WITH THAT AX MOVES (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 13
(view spoiler)[This whole Mather meira love seems a bit rushed, tho I loved how he confessed he's going to find another solution, he will try for her but why didn't he try sooner?
And I feel like his heart broke a little when he heard her saying she wanted to marry Theron and the love word. - Sarah why are you doing this to us???
FINALLY A FIGHT OMGOMF
MHM MATHER GOING EASY? I KNOW you'd want Theron's head off lmao
OH MY GODDD THERON - does anything what lady wants - even giving up a fight which would seem weak in front of his soldiers HOT
Okay I was team Theron but I'm lowkey happy Mather won even though he was a bit cocky. Fighting over meira sheesh, Mather showed that love. Sirrr why did you step in? I wanted Meira to do that...
Theron why are you so perfect? What's wrong with you, I know you'll break my heart (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 16
(view spoiler)[Theron helping Meira with deciphering the book 😩
He went to his knees before her and said she matters, I’m fine I’m fine
And protecting her from Sir
Okay we can all agree I totally fell for him
He RESPECTFULLY declined leaving Meira - why is he SO HOT
And then Mather - oh you angry now, huh? And when Theron asked him if something’s wrong. I know he's too perfect to be true and something is wrong with him, he’s probably working with Angra
Mather can you say something, stop being a coward and just say what you think.
How can no one just catch her? I doubt she's that fast but okay
Egh excuse me what the fuck I knew you’re working with Angra..
Okay it seems Theron didn’t know anything, that’s good just please work with them and btw how he stopped soldiers 🥵
Mather don’t you dare sacrificing yourself to Angra.. Maybe I’m team Theron but I still don’t want you to die. Anyways we can still see Meira carrying for him.
That punch from Sir was deserving
And that’s what you get Noam… Angra going against you BYEEE
Does it mean we’re gonna see Theron in his armour 👀 (hide spoiler)]

Overall feelings after 50% of book
(view spoiler)[Okay I like how it's not typical love story at least it doesn't seem so because here's Mather secretly in love in Meira but lowkey she knows or at least hopes he loves her AND she wants him to love her BUT she's lowkey admiring Theron. Like I know it's not love yet, hell, I'm sure he doesn't love her himself he's just a real gentelman 🥵 and knows the situation and wants her to feel the most comfortable as she can.

About the plot... idk I wasn't into it at first but I'm starting to feel it more. Sometimes chapters seems really long but there isn't a lot of information in them and everything is happening so fast. (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 17
(view spoiler)[Chapter 17
Okay I noticed it before she even thought about it “Meira held Mather’s hand AS A FRIEND”
Oh my f*** god,Theron, you officially become my new book boyfriend, letting Meira fight because she’s equal? You have my heart ❤️
He isn’t treating her as someone worse or like he has much power, he sees her as someone the same as him, a soldier capable of fighting.
What’s your game Mather? You’ll march her to the city yourself, POV caring boyfriend and ofc protecting her at all cost l.
YES Theron baby stand up to your father 👏
OMG what did he sayyyy 👀
Tbh it kind of feels like he was afraid of his father and he was hiding all his feelings and now bursting out which to me seems a bit too fast but I don’t complain. Low-key I think he wanted to impress Meira 🤭🥵
Wait a damn minute… i love him, there’s a war coming … umm Sarah let’s talk about it. Killing isn’t always the best option 😳 (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 18
(view spoiler)[Okay I have a feeling that Meira is somehow related to Hannah? But then what about Mather how was he her child,umm are they siblings?
Sir was talking like she was Winter and she had to save everyone.
Am I sad about his death? Not really, I mean I Knew someone was about to die, didn’t really suspect him and his death wasn’t that spectacular also I wasn’t attached that much to him (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 19
(view spoiler)[Okay now I’m sure Meira is Hannah’s daughter,probably a secret so no one really tries to kill her since she’s the one who can use the locket.
The girl in the work camp 💔 so fragile,working for years still ready to fight after seeing some who escaped Spring for so long. (hide spoiler)]

chapter 6
(view spoiler)[omg, i’m glad i’m not the only one who was getting celaena vibes LOL. i agree with what you said. (hide spoiler)]

your chapter 11 comment made me laugh😂 i agree!! (view spoiler)[although as of right now i think i’m team theron? (hide spoiler)]

chapter 16
(view spoiler)[i love that meira seems to finally be sticking up for herself against sir! (hide spoiler)]

50% general thoughts
(view spoiler)[i actually don’t mind the love triangle in this! as you said it’s not a typical love story haha.
i also love how fast-paced this is, i can’t believe i’m already over halfway through! (hide spoiler)]

chapter 17
(view spoiler)[YESSS theron is such an icon for not putting up a fight about her fighting!! i love him (hide spoiler)]

chapter 18-19
(view spoiler)[omg i didn’t even think about that, but you’re probably right (hide spoiler)]

finished
(view spoiler)[ahhhh that was so good!! i can’t wait to read the next one, let me know when you’re ready :)) (hide spoiler)]

I'm more than half way through the book and I adore Theron. He stood up to his father and that takes a lot of courage.

Also how old is Angere(?) and what's his problem???? leave them alone

Okay... I just finished and the ending seems good. I am a bit angry at Sir. Like it was Hanna's secret but she was dead and Meira deserved to know who she was. The expectation that Mather had to live upto now would have been so frustrating. Poor Mather.

I don't think I'll continue with the series though. I felt like this was wrapped up enough and I like a good open ending like this one.

I hope both of you enjoy this series(❁´◡`❁)

Okay so I'm gonna write my final thoughts as I finished the series:

Chapter 22
(view spoiler)[Okay, the book lacked another young female and Nessa is perfect. Sweet girl who still hopes to get out and dreams of becoming something else and i can already see her with Mather and Meira with Theron.end of bishops thank you 😂
I’m fine, I’m fine, not crying at all after that secret tunnel and walls with memories. (hide spoiler)]
Chapter 26
(view spoiler)[I really hoped in Meira perfect world will be Theron not Mather but okay it’s understandable since she knows him longer and actually always wanted to be with him 🤨
OKAY NEVER MIND SHE SAID SHE DOESN’T LOVE HIM ANYMORE
Okay Mather is Sir’s son and I’m actually crying because he couldn’t show his love to him before. He had to act like he’s a king,not his son when in reality Meira is the queen 🙃 OH MY GODD the sacrifice Allysson and Sir had to make, acting like their own son is kind of strange, and constantly beaming the future queen. How hard it must’ve been OMG!!! (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 27 till the end
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Theron OH MY GODDDD DID YOU GO TO SAVE HER, DID YOU?
MEIRS JUST GO INTO SOME KUNG FU PANDA MODE AND SAVE HIM
No he really handed himself over to save her, I'm not crying you are. He's looking at her during tortures, HE'SLOOKING AT HER
You killed him together, my lil killing babies.
THERON YOU ARE WORTHY OF HER, OFC YOU ARE.
OMG the kiss, 🥵 wish it could be longer but okay okay I get it we're short on time.
But the way he knew she needs to go to her people, that he didn't try to stop her. That's a true partner. He doesn't try to restrain her, he supports her every decision.
Meira, the fight, how you gave them strength, you freed them, and Nessa saying she always believed in her - I'm not gonna lie i had tears in my eyes.
HE IS ALIVE, YESSSS, Like I said I didn't really like him, he was okay, but I still wanted him to create a bond with Mather, with Meira, be her general, help her rule.
MATHER CALLING MEIRA HIS QUEEN AYAYYAYAY
SIR WON A FIGHT AGAINST ANGRA
OHH Theron you don't like cold?
UMM yes Meira don't show them your true power
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Final thoughts:
(view spoiler)[Overall I really liked book, it wasn't magnificant but def worth reading and I'm grabbing 2nd book right away. So about the secret of Meira: I feel like you didn't understand that part. They hid it so she could be somehow safe and Angra wouldn't pursue to get her so much. With Mather it was safe because he wouldn't be able to use conduit or magic anyway because he was male heir and only female heir could use it in Winter. With knowing Meira is Hannah's child he'd do anything to get her so she wouldn't grow and use magic against him.
I wonder if Meira could use her inner voice to tell Mather not to break the staff but I understand she was new to magic.
About Mather - I feel he's relieved he isn't a king but also dissapointed, his whole life was about being a future king and beating Angra and what is he without that? Without a sense of life? I'm sure in the 2nd part he'll try to find his place and of course connect with his parents. And as I see he'll probably become one of Meira's generals next to Sir and end up with Nessa?
Btw I lowkey liked Conall he reminded me of Azriel A Court of Thorns and Roses (❁'◡'❁)
What else - IT MUST BE WEIRD HAVING A MOTHER IN YOUR HEAD XDD I wonder if she can read her thoughts lmao
And Theron - ahh my love, after seeing he went after her - I'm his. Rescue me too D: Tho probably in 2nd part there'll be a rollercoaster and sth will hapen because I don't believe they'll end up happily ever after right away PLUS if he's a future king and she's a queen where will they reside? Cordell or Winter? (hide spoiler)]

Anna wrote: "I hope both of you enjoy this series(❁´◡`❁)"

thanks!

Ice Like Fire
Chapter 1
(view spoiler)[Okay why do I have a feeling that there’ll be some serious problems with Meira and Theron. Well ofc it’s part two so can’t be perfect already
But god - I’ll always fight for you. I’ll always keep you safe 😩 if emits doesn’t want you, I’m waiting 🤪
I feel like he’ll protect her even if she breaks things off with him
And why do I have a weird feeling Meira is going to be annoying af (hide spoiler)]
Chapter 2
(view spoiler)[Okay Meira what’s your problem, Theron thinks you’re a piece of art, girl wake up don’t be like most of us being bored by good lad and going for the toxic one 🤣
And ugh okay, problems coming 😌 Anyway I wish Meira becomes a badass queen who will also fight not just sit on her ass. Let her wear pants hello.. (hide spoiler)]
Chapter 3
(view spoiler)[Okay so Therons father killed his mother just as Angras father did 😌
And now we know what’s gonna happen Meira and Theron will fight over the chasm. Bye bye my beautiful ship. (hide spoiler)]
Chapter 4
(view spoiler)[Oh Mather don’t let anyone tell you that you aren’t enough.
And it’s kinda funny how he wants her, she thinks of him but they’re both afraid of making a move. Probably will end up together 🤷‍♀️ but idk how i feel about that.
And I don’t like that the author wants us to hate Theron and live Mather again 🤨 (hide spoiler)]
Chapter 7
(view spoiler)[Umm Theron in a suit? Yes please and I’d like to pay for faster delivery 🙃
GO MEIRA show Noam that you’re not a little girl he thinks you are!!
And excuse me can Meira read minds after touching someone? If yes - is it a chasm’s work orrr she’s some kind of special kid that was promised ages ago? 🤨
And sorry but her plan was a bit obvious, why did she expect Noam not to figure it out? Not like he’s not more experienced, older than her. But the threats?? Woah woah woah - maybe let’s stop here (hide spoiler)]
Chapter 8
(view spoiler)[Okay new theory: since Meira is a queen and Theron is an heir he can’t marry her or else Cordell stays without a person who’d rule after death of his father. And I know Mather says he’s just a lord but she’s typical YA girl who doesn’t care about status 😌
Chapter I really don’t like what the author does with love plot. At first, she wanted us to love Theron and then out of sudden he’s a bad boy and Mather is hurt puppy who in one hand is ready to give up Meira and on the other he still loves her. How is it not confusing? (hide spoiler)]
Chapter 13
(view spoiler)[Ceridwen 😙 Nooo! Now I’m 100% sure no smut in this series 🤣 “put away his dot dot dot um dot dot dot” excuse me where is “velvet sword” “velvet wrapped steel” “steel encased in silk” SJM what did you do to me (hide spoiler)]
Chapter 17
(view spoiler)[Um okay Theron I don’t like your violence against Meira?? Can you not grab her like this? And wtf Meira why didn’t you hide this key like what the actual fuck and seriously you let him take the key XD I’m irritated af
Plus has Angra brainwashed Theron? Because it as hell seems like it. (hide spoiler)]
Chapter 18
(view spoiler)[Oh please it’s obvious she talks about Theron, Meira think 🤨 (hide spoiler)]
Chapter 20
(view spoiler)[Okay William is as shitty at expressing feelings as Mather 🤫 (hide spoiler)]
Chapter 23
(view spoiler)[So it’s an overall opinion on this book. I feel like the author was completely lost where to go with the plot everything seems so inconsistent.. Theron x Meira are over and I’m sorry to say this but I don’t see their future I kind of feel heartbroken like when Dorian x Caleana ship sank. Meira losing control over and over again and no one noticing? She used her magic in Dummer and was so afraid that someone’s noticed but when she “pushed” her guards in Yakim then what? It’s okay there? I don’t get it..
And I don’t like the way she tries to portray Theron as a villain. He seems lost and truly believes in his cause but a bit overreacting. Besides, it seems that no kingdom has a perfect way to rule their people. Only winter seems “pure” ugh a little bit of Mary Jane here 😒 (hide spoiler)]
Chapter 25
(view spoiler)[So now I’m sure Theron is somehow under an influence of Angra. But oh well is anyone surprised they took over Winter?
Besides it’s so obvious now that Meira will end up with Mather, I wonder if Theron dies, maybe he sacrifices himself for her. (hide spoiler)]
Chapter 29
(view spoiler)[Okay so something new - main character doesn’t want to sacrifice themselves.
Plus I guess every other ruler is under an influence of Angra 🤪 quirky
I wonder what is with Theron
Plus Mathers entrance scene 🥵 (hide spoiler)]
Chapter 31
(view spoiler)[Umm no comment? Theron wtf? 🤨 were you that desperate? You seemed like you are in some kind of a cult. How your own soldiers and people are supposed to trust and serve you now? I thought you’re smarter and it’s obvious the author is definitely team Mather. And Tbh I feel sorry for you character, how it wa Schaefer from noble guy to someone who kills his own father for what? It seems like power but your excuse is equality.
Garrigan 😭 I thought Meira will snap and use her magic but I guess it’s over. Well for me I preferred him over Conall 😬 so I wish it was the other brother (hide spoiler)]
Chapter 32
(view spoiler)[Okay the ending, SHEEEEEEEESH, I really liked it! Some deaths but not a significant ones to cry, the action and plot twists plus adding some cliffhanger!! Okay so obviously we know that Meira will end up with Mather, she practicaly said it BUT THERON'S FIGHT!! Oh please, he's so god damn fine, he gives me Dorian [Throne of Glass] vibes. My boo was brainwashed like I thought at the beginning :( He'll probably die and sacrifice himself for Meira, because also we all know he deeply loves her 🥵 But the last fight, to free her and what he told Mather to take her 😭 damnn whyy, I know Angra will probably go into his mind and see what happened I just hope he'll still have some more power to fight him.
Jesse - coward... no comment on that but I guess it's normal with people who have been broken for such a long period of time. He just gave up.
Okay in the next book I want to see Meira's, Theron's and Mather's POV. Like in this book, Mather's one was tbh useless but in the 3rd one they'll all be split!
BTW Meira will probably learn how to control magic and use it in the better way, can't wait to see her training. (hide spoiler)]