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welcome, it would be interesting to have an atheist opinion on things. Out of curiosity, what is your opinion of socialism and communism? I am just curious and trying to test correlations.

Please put this in chat!!! Thank you

Austin wrote: "welcome, it would be interesting to have an atheist opinion on things. Out of curiosity, what is your opinion of socialism and communism? I am just curious and trying to test correlations."

I support capitalism, but let me guess your correlation is that atheists tend to be socialists or communists.

Haha yeah you prove me wrong that is the way it is here in America

Or at least in college

Austin wrote: "Or at least in college"

Yes, colleges tend to be leftists strongholds.

Kendra (aka Pianissimo) wrote: "Ricardo wrote: "Hello. I'm Ricardo and I'm 18 years old. Currently I'm taking International Relations, but my objective is to change to Management. Regarding religion, apparently I'm in a minority ..."

My reasoning was the following, throughout history humans had many different religions, from animist, shamanism to polytheism, henotheism and monotheism.

So why would this particular religion be the right one? Some say Islam is the correct religion, other say that it's Sikhism, others Judaism and so on, nobody really knows. Even inside Christianity you have multiple branches, Orthodox, Protestant, Catholic, and inside those three there's even more divisions, in Protestantism you have Lutheranism, Calvinism, Methodism, etc!

If there were concrete proof that a certain religion was the legitime one, then everyone would be of that religion, but that's not the case.

I think humans are just trying to explain the unexplainable trough religion, but now in the modern world we have science that has been making remarkable progresses throughout the last centuries and soon it will be able to provide a theory of everything that will fully explain and link together all physical aspects of the universe!

On an additional note, other significant factor that restrains me from believing in a religion is the lack of proof it has and I think it requires a leap of faith, at least in my perspective.

I assume that Christianism is intrinsically linked to the existence of Jesus and without him, it would fall apart. Is that correct?

Either way, why do you think Christianism is valid? What makes you believe in Christianism?

Ricardo wrote: "On an additional note, other significant factor that restrains me from believing in a religion is the lack of proof it has and I think it requires a leap of faith, at least in my perspective.

I a..."

Okay, I see where you're coming from, and I understand. Yes, Christianity is linked to the existence of Jesus (His Hebrew name being Yeshua, debatably), and there is evidence to His having existed, and I can give links if you'd like. I personally don't call myself a just plain Christian, because I also observe and follow the Old Testament laws, while the vast majority of "Christians" believe it is done away with. I consider myself a Torah keeper, who believes in Yeshua and all His works, and that He saves me ultimately. But the way that I show my love to Him is through following the commands of the Father, to show my faith by my works. The Bible is incredibly historically accurate (again, I can give you sources if you want), and I've found great peace with my beliefs. The Bible has changed my life, and God has spoken to me countless times through His scriptures.

Elizabeth L. wrote: "Please put this in chat!!! Thank you"

You guys should move to the chat!!!!

Oops, yeah, I'm sorry.

yeah @ricardo, you should repost what you said to the religions topic. I'd be happy to discuss there is you are interested.

GRACEL wrote: "Elizabeth L. wrote: "Please put this in chat!!! Thank you"

You guys should move to the chat!!!!"

thank you.

Your welcome!!!

Hey, I'm Tasha!
I'm a photographer, writer, and homeschooled christian teen

Hey Tasha!!!!

Howdy, everyone. I'm Aychearro Heckamo. I study psychology and the Bible, hoping to be a pastor.

He's also a hopeless romantic so keep your distance lest he infect you ;)

Ha! You did join! Funn!
@Tasha...ah yes, don't let him infect you XDD

@Archy Welcome my friend! :D

Welcome to the group Tasha!!!!

Hi! I'm Mackenzie! Some fun facts/interests:

-I am a Christian, Jesus is my Lord and Savior and He comes first.
-I ride horses.
-I love film, filmmaking, and acting, and ofc watching movies!
-I'm learning Korean in hopes to go to South Korea for college.
-I love adventure.
-I love archery.
-I love water sports but I'm not great at them!
-I love other sports such as dance, figure skating, gymnastics, track, etc. But the only one I've done from that list is dance!

Hello and welcome, Mackenzie!

Hey, Mackenzie!

Hey guys! Thanks!!

Hi!!
I'm Akshita from India and I love reading books and discussing about them.
The thing is , I got influenced by other's opinions quite quickly and that made me insecure , so I started debating and discussing topics , so that I could make my points and arguments and think about what others have to say!
- huge science and mathematics nerd.
- love reading about the Renaissance era and Indian romanticism.
- Hindu by religion (but that's not the only important basis of my identity)
- I believe in loving everyone and hating no-one.
- I have unpopular opinions regarding many topics.
- I constantly hope I don't offend anyone by what I say and believe.

It's nice to meet you all !! ❤

What are your unpopular opinions?

They are usually related to silly things like :-
1) cat>dog
2) physics is not philosophy
3) maths is cool and easy.
4) I like school

Or bookish things like:-
1) Pride and prejudice and Wuthering heights are overrated.
2) Paperbacks>hardbacks
3) Cassandra Clare is overrated.
4) Classics are entertaining
5) 1984 is not a masterpiece and Lord of the rings is overrated as well.
6) Dramione is a huge NO.
7) I don't like Stephen King's way of writing much. The synopsis of the book is usually quite interesting but the writing ruins it.
8) Self help and non fiction books are not bad and the people who read them are not boring or gross.

Also,
I don't believe God punishes people for a sin , I believe it is just karma.
Etc....
Again , these are my opinions and I don't mean to offend or provoke anyone...

out of curiosity, what is your opinions of Christianity and Islam?

I believe every religion has some moral obligations that come with it that people of that religion have to follow. These obligations , ideas and ideals should motivate people in their actions but becoming fanatical about it is also disastrous since it makes people think that what they believe in is superior and of utmost importance.

Teachings of Islam such as belief in God , fasting, obligations of prayer and charity keeps people grounded and allows a person to get overwhelmed by the vastness of it all , which makes them kind, forgiving and understanding.

In Christianity, teachings of repentance and love makes people epitomes of humanity.

I feel that people , atheists or believers , should have some basic moral principles ( or dharmas) which they should folllow and base their actions on , since it makes them more compassionate to others.

cool can you post that on the religion topic so if people wish to pick your mind they can do it there?

Oh , sure!

If you know a lot about Indian history what is your opinion of the different invaders? The British, the mongols, the Muslims?

The firsts to invade the indian subcontinent were the Aryans , but the venture of the Delhi Sultanates is what the education system here teaches to a great extent .
The Delhi Sultanate was an Islamic empire based in Delhi . Five dynasties ruled the subcontinent in the following order: the Mamluk , the Khalji , the Tughlaq , the Sayyid , and the Lodi dynasties.

The Mongols were prevented from invading India by Allaudin Khalji of the Khalji dynasty . He was a great administrator and introduced various innovative reforms in the administrative, social and political system. Sher Shah Suri was a great ruler as well.
The Mughals are pretty famous and the most well known among them is Akbar. He was a great administrator and emperor too .

The Mughals were succeeded by the British who ruled the Indian subcontinent for 190 years , to be precise . They had come for trading purposes ( as is suggested by the name the British East India Company)
This was a brief history. Now my opinions:-
I think the the able rulers of the delhi sultanate and mughal empire introduced innovative reforms that helped in the progress of the people. I believe they lived and ruled here as if the subjectvwere their own people . But then there were some rulers (Muhammad bin tughlaq for example) whose reforms , laws and decisions were at times , questionable.
The British however came to suck out the subcontinent's resources for the benefit of their nation and there was negligible good that came of them . They plundered and demoralized the people's lives and it has had a lasting effect on the experiences of the people, a negative imprint.
After a bloody and chaotic partition into India and Pakistan, India got its independence on 15th of August 1947 and has remained sovereign since.
This is what is taught to us at school and my inferences from it , no offense intended.

Welcome Akshita! That's interesting!

Akshita wrote: "The firsts to invade the indian subcontinent were the Aryans , but the venture of the Delhi Sultanates is what the education system here teaches to a great extent .
The Delhi Sultanate was an Islam..."

what is your opinion on Indian independence and the patrician between India and Pakistan if you have one?

Carsie Rose wrote: "Akshita wrote: "The firsts to invade the indian subcontinent were the Aryans , but the venture of the Delhi Sultanates is what the education system here teaches to a great extent .
The Delhi Sultan..."
Thank you 😊
1) The God of Small Things
2) Malgudi Days- depicts village life
3) The Ivory Key - this one has an interesting premise.
And anything by Rabindranath Tagore
Most of the books that I have read which contain elements of romanticism and struggles of life are written in Hindi or indigenous languages ....

Tasha wrote: "Welcome Akshita! That's interesting!"
Thank you!

Austin wrote: "Akshita wrote: "The firsts to invade the indian subcontinent were the Aryans , but the venture of the Delhi Sultanates is what the education system here teaches to a great extent .
The Delhi Sultan..."
The first resistance against the British had been initiated in 1857 but due to different needs , beliefs , goals and kingdoms , none of the major freedom fighters could unite as a singular cuase against the british and hence ,they lost.
The second time around , some people believed ( and still do) that Gandhiji's method of ahimsa (non violence) and satyagraha ( holding on to the truth) was a slow and inefficient method of bringing Independence . There had been different strands in the society, supporting different methods of resistance. But according to me Gandhiji's method of forcing the oppressor to see the truth for himself in a non aggressive manner was excellent and has a humane element in it. It has left a legacy that we can be proud of.

It is believed that Sir Muhammad Iqbal's( president of muslim league) reiteration of the importance of separate electorate for the Muslims due their minority gave the intellectual justification of the Pakistan demand that came up years later. The heated tension between the Hindus and Muslims in India also had been a huge factor that led to partition. Such tensions are prevalant even today , but people are starting to understand the importance of unity and fraternity now.

I think the partition was devastating. Both at that time and now that the effects can be felt. Neighbour rivalry , wars , funding of army , tension , water wars are tip of the iceberg. People here feel scared to visit the northern parts . The feeling of despair is mutual , I guess and has serious repurcussions on social and economic progress.

Akshita wrote: "Austin wrote: "Akshita wrote: "The firsts to invade the indian subcontinent were the Aryans , but the venture of the Delhi Sultanates is what the education system here teaches to a great extent .
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So you would rather have the two countries reunited?

As a side note and as an outsider looking in. It seems to me, most of the Muslims and Pakistanis favored more violent resistance to the British. Whereas the Hindus of India for the most part favored the more peaceful method employed by Gandhiji. From the outside looking in, there seemed to be a very big difference between the Muslim population and the Hindu populations of India in their politics and historical claims. From the outside looking in, it looked like the partition was bound to happen and it looked like Pakistan by population was supposed to have gotten more of northern India. Like in the Kashmir region. Again this is from the outsider's perspective.
(also I found this cool music video of the kasmir skirmishes in 1999
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrD_F...)

HI!!
name: shranya
country: india
age:15
hobbies: reading, drawing, sleeping
i really like brownies btw

Hey nice to see you join

Hi Shranya! It's great to have you in the group! Have fun debating!

Hello!
My name is Abby
I’m 13 years old my birthday is may 25
I live in Canada
I have 2 brothers and 1 sister (all younger then me🙄)
I have 2 dogs and 2 cats
And some of my favourite things are reading, dancing, sleeping and eating

nice to have you join us.

Hi, Abby! nice to meet you! :-D
what kind of dancing do you do?

I do ballet, point, jazz, contemporary and lyrical.

That's so cool!

Austin wrote: "Akshita wrote: "Austin wrote: "Akshita wrote: "The firsts to invade the indian subcontinent were the Aryans , but the venture of the Delhi Sultanates is what the education system here teaches to a ..."

Yes. It would save loads of time and money and would greatly reduce stress.
The Muslims did participate in Gandhiji's movements initially ( Ex. The non cooperation movement for Swarajya(self-rule) and khilafat cause since ottoman turkey was defeated in ww1). But due to the failure of these and growing connections of the Congress( party which led the struggle for independence) with Hindu parties, the Muslims drifted away from the Congress.
The hindu intolerance for muslims could have stemmed from the anger generated by historical rule of the subcontinent by Islamic empires and the muslim intolerance for hindus from the idea that since they were ( and are) in minority , they wanted to safeguard their rights and interests.
But I can say that neither parties are completely innocent or non violent since violence and aggresion against the other party is organised and bloody riots do take place, if not frequently.

Austin wrote: "Akshita wrote: "Austin wrote: "Akshita wrote: "The firsts to invade the indian subcontinent were the Aryans , but the venture of the Delhi Sultanates is what the education system here teaches to a ..."

I had never seen that video before , thanks a lot for sharing !!

Akshita wrote: "Austin wrote: "Akshita wrote: "Austin wrote: "Akshita wrote: "The firsts to invade the indian subcontinent were the Aryans , but the venture of the Delhi Sultanates is what the education system her..."

I'm glad you like the video