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And then there were none - Mennatallah & Gamar
Im on aroundddd chapter 9 ( but ill wait)At first it was a bit difficult to keep track of the characters since there were so many . do u feel the same way?
Gamar ❤ wrote: "Im on aroundddd chapter 9 ( but ill wait)At first it was a bit difficult to keep track of the characters since there were so many . do u feel the same way?"
Gamar ❤ wrote: "Hey Mennatallah !
Excited for both our first buddy reads :)
Here we can discuss the book . Characters , theories , progress and literally anything you wanna say ( dont be shy !)"
Hello!
Ok, understood 🤝
I reached chapter 7 now.
YES!
i think they were 10 characters at the beginning?? But they're decreasing now💃🏻 I'm so horrible with names, my memory can't get it 😭.
Also i feel like I'm in a labyrinth 👀 I'm already trying to figure it out who the killer is but Agatha Christie is closing every door to my face 😂
Whoaaa u moved fast i need to speed up on my character profiles
yes 10 . omggg😂 yes they are decreasing . youre not supposed to be happy .
ME TOO! my memory can be appaling
Ik im just trying but i know im not gonna get it . still hoping the character profiles thing will help . ill upload it soon
Btw do u know how to add images on Gr ?
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Gamar ❤ wrote: "Whoaaa u moved fast i need to speed up on my character profiles
yes 10 . omggg😂 yes they are decreasing . youre not supposed to be happy .
ME TOO! my memory can be appaling
Ik im just trying but i..."
I just wanted to catch up with you 😊 but I'm slowing down, no pressure.
I knoww 🙈😂
We'll only do our best in suspecting everyone and see🤝
That will be helpful yes!
No i don't know I'm sorry 😔
can u view any of those ?
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No it's not working😥I have a solution
You don't have to post it as an image, use Google lens in the search bar to take a photo of what you want, and choose the search by text option then copy the text after selecting it. And paste it here. It might work :/
Character profiles :1.Emily Brent
Occupation: unknown
Invitiation: From a guest on holiday , U.N.O
Formal accusation:Death of Beatrice Taylor . She later reveals that she served with the woman who turned out to be immoral and threw her out before the woman hung herself . She feels no guilt
Notes:
-65 yr old woman . said to be a pious, emotionless and sour woman . Her father served as a colonel and is hence known by General Macurther ( a link)
-As a very biblical woman her motive could have been to rid the world of such murderers and deliver them to god for judjement HOWEVER as a biblical woman she should have been againts murder by her own hands and hanging
-Mrs Brent was bent over ms rogers when both mr rogers and the rest of the group came in . She had ample time to do something
-She was also sure of the house being closed up for winter however that could have just been her deducing
POV: II
SUS LEVEL-not so sus
Staus: Alive
2. Vera Claythorne
OccupationSecreatary
InvitiationProfessional invite from Una Nancy Owen
Formal accusation Killed Cyril Ogilvie Hamilton. He drwoned before she could get to him OR SO SHE SAYS
Notes:
MOTIVE:Hugo , the boys uncle and Vera seemed to love each other .Due to cyril being born , the money that would have gone to Hugo isntead went to cyril . She says hugo was never bitter and always doting but idk . He also said that he loved vera but couldnt marry her as he had no money. If vera wanted that she could have gotten cyril to drown and hence the money would go to Hugo orrr he told her to do it ( he watched her when cyril asked abt swimming to the rock)
She said in the beginning that it was her first time in Devon but later when blore says hes been watching and hte motorboat hasnt come yet she says smiling: Devinsa a sleepy county . things are usually late . HOW WOULD SHE KNOW then again she hates looking @ the sea maybe coz cyril drowned in this very place .Vera is always sooo emotional it could be a coverup and is always givng motives for ppls behaviour ' she was a nervous creature , heart failure'
Repeatedly reffered to as a charming , sweet girl but those girls are the ones you should watch otu for .
"Theyd been feeling safe and happy abt it"
Vera interruoted . In a low voice she said, "NO i dont think they ever felt safe about" Either coz she odesnt or she TRULY knows
According to herself shes always had excellent nerves but she cretainly hasnt been acting like it .she rushed to lunch
POVII
SUS LEVEL- PRETTY SUS in terms of her guilt but idk if she is the one
Staus: Alive
3.Dr Armstrong
OccupationDoctor
InvitiationVague but money for evaluation
Formal accusation Seath of louisa mary clees . Later findout from himself that he was drunk operating
Notes:He talked to boat boy asking if he knew the owns before he replied no. Either he truly didnt know orr HE WAS TESTING THE BOAT BOY . when he arrived 'Now that he arrived ,he must keep his nose to the grindstone' so as not to be figured out ?
HE knows the justice wargrave ( hes given evidence once before him ? maybe for his case)
was quick to say ms rogers had fainted and he gave her meds the night she died
He had a dream where he was comitting murder first to emily then antony before he was woken up . possibly bcz hes gonna kill them all
isniste don calling hte general could have done it there
POV IIII
SUS LEVEL- STRONG
Staus: Alive
4.Justice wargrave
OccupationJudge
Invitiation Friend Constance culmington
Formal accusation Murder of Edward seton . A supposed criminal , hes very sure of it , no guilt
Notes: Never been to Devon
Knows Armstrong
The judge asks alot of questions and come up with the U.nOwen= UNKNOWN
When asked if he knew suton from before the case he says no but armstrong is sure he's lying
POV IIII
SUS LEVEL- not
Staus: Alive
OccupationGeneral
InvitiationA friend of a friend , to chitchat
Formal accusation Sent wife's lover , ARthur richmond to death . Admits to it later
Notes:Lives in Devon
Suspects Armitage knows truth of the death . Shcoked Vera could have been accused of the murder ( why are they all so sure of vera !!!)
Knows Emily's father
He talks of home being full of worries and not wanting to leave the isalnd suddnely but i dont feel its him.
POV II
SUS LEVEL- not sus at all
Staus: dead , hiton the head
6.Mr Rogers
OccupationServant
InvitiationRegina agency in plymouth thru letter
Formal accusation Death of Jennifer Brady . says she was old anyway but they would have recieved money
Notes: Got the brandy tony drank but not only tony drank so no
Played the gramomphone but on instruction
Doesnt seem sad abt wife's death
His first pov was him noticing the missing soldier ( so creepy btw)
POV I
SUS LEVEL- not much
Staus: Alive
OccupationServant
Invitiationsame as mr rogers
Formal accusation same
Notes:said to be afraid of her own shadow, ghost of a woman but respectable . is she afraid of her secrets and/or her husband ? Know snothing of the owens
POV
SUS LEVEL- NONE
Staus: Dead in sleep
Occupation n/a
Invitiationn/a
Formal accusation Death of John and lucy connes . says was accident but was prolly speeding
Notes: Fun , chaotic , handosme , proud , Creature of sensation and action
"Must go thru with it i suppose' and thereafter dismisssed evrytng from his mind . A cocktail dinner and after?'
Its almost as if he knew , did he plan it or was he paid ??
POV II
SUS LEVEL- could have been but no
Staus: Dead from choking ( had to look fo rhis glass which was elsewhere before he drank so someone might have slipped him something
9.Phillip Lombard
OccupationN/a
Jewish boy , vague . money offered by Mr Isaac Morris
Invitiation
Formal accusation Death of 21 East african tribesmen ( call sit a matter of self preservation and is racist and not guilty abt it , f u!)
Notes: Traveller
Said to have quick eyes ,cruel mouth , predatory . smiles alot , studies others a lot -However might hav eto do with his training as a soldier or whatevr he is?
H calls this business why? says leality is not his limit
Doesnt know wether to say he's met the ownes or not but then again his invite was vague...
'Lombard was quick to act-he was free once more to take initiative . like the judge , Lombards eyes wandered slowly around the room. They rested a minute on the open window , then he shook his head decisively . suddenly his eyes lit up . he moved swiftly to where a door near the fireplace led into an adjoining room with a swift gesture he caught the handle and flung the door open . He passed and uttered an exclamtion of satisfaction.
inside the 2nd room a table had been brought up close to the wall adjoining the drawing room . on the table was a gramophone , the mouth of the trumpet aginst the wall , lombard pushing it aside indicated tp where 2 or 3 small holes had been obtrusively bored thru the wall'
Maybe a bit TOO quick and knowledgeable but no good enough .
POV II
SUS LEVEL- SUSSSSS but is it too obvious?
Staus: Alive
10.Mr ( davis) Blore
OccupationPoliceman
InvitiationPose as a guest and watch them ,for money and thru letter
Formal accusation Death of James stephen landor ( criminal apparently and recieved promotion)
Notes:
Knew evry1s names kept in a notebook , concerned abt the job & looking alright that makes sense with his invitation butttt he says he doesnt want to be recognized or slip up so makes up South africa lie and name .
Has been to soldier island as a boy apparenlty and has the soldier poem, he knows his close to death and judges all from the beginning ( myb coz he knows their sins? or maybe its just coz hes a police)
'Funny how they looked at each otherr , as if they knew...'
Blore studied with naive surpise the staue (acting?)
POV II
SUS LEVEL- Hella sus
Staus: Alive
i just had to type it out , sorry i took so longSo far my main suspects are :
Vera . Lombard and Blore . Hbu? have u got anything to add ? Im so curious to hear ur thoughts!!!
Extra Notes :Fred Narcott ( boatboy) saod hes never met the owens and that Mr morris ( same guy from Lombards story!) paid for everythng
Im just having so amny theories but What if thelast man/woman standing isnt even the killer but its actually the second person left ?
Im also trying not to fall in the trap where the author makes that ONE PERSON so obvious and then you waste ur efforts on them and it isnt even them ! But at this poitn its liek evryone is so SUS
Predicting whos who might help as well . so elimination processTen little soldier boys went out to dine;
One choked his little self and then there were nine. - ANTONY
Nine little soldier boys sat up very late;
One overslept himself and then there were eight.- MS ROGERS
Eight little soldier boys traveling in Devon;
One said he’d stay there and then there were seven.- ? maybee general since he doesnt want to go home??update: omg i was right
Seven little soldier boys chopping up sticks;
One chopped himself in halves and then there were six.- Rogers ?? since he cooks or chops sticks for a fireplace or smtng?
Six little soldier boys playing with a hive;
A bumble bee stung one and then there were five.I have no idea
Five little soldier boys going in for law;
One got in chancery and then there were four.The justice since did law maybe ?
Four little soldier boys going out to sea;
A red herring swallowed one and then there were three. idk
Three little soldier boys walking in the zoo;
A big bear hugged one and then there were two.Idk
Two little soldier boys sitting in the sun;
One got frizzled up and then there was one.Ms brent ? idk when she went outside she went to shady areas so maybe her?
One little soldier boy left all alone;
He went and hanged himself and then there was none THE REAL QUESTION!!!
feel free to read ahead . should we make the limit chapter 12 until tomorrow ?
WOOOWWW i loooove your notes🥺They'll definitely help.
I actually haven't read past chapter 8 in the past 2 days bc of college 😓
Ok ch 12 tomorrow inshaAllah 🤝
You know, i feel like Agatha Christie is tricking us and the killer won't be anyone from the guests 👀 I'll like this more tbh
Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "You know, i feel like Agatha Christie is tricking us and the killer won't be anyone from the guests 👀 I'll like this more tbh"Yeah i thought of that too and if it is its probs this Mr Morris but if she does do that how were we supposed to guess it ? nah i want it to be 1 of the guest with a perfect execution that leaves me mindboggled until everything all starts to make sense
Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "WOOOWWW i loooove your notes🥺They'll definitely help.
I actually haven't read past chapter 8 in the past 2 days bc of college 😓
Ok ch 12 tomorrow inshaAllah 🤝"
Thanks😊 . I ll try to be updating them
ITS OKKKK . theres no rush .I just meant lets not pass chapt 12 until after today ( i rlly thought u were ahead of me) that was the limit
Gamar ❤ wrote: "Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "You know, i feel like Agatha Christie is tricking us and the killer won't be anyone from the guests 👀 I'll like this more tbh"Yeah i thought of that too and if it ..."
Yes that too, it would annoy me. But i really wanna be shocked 🌚
He definitely has something to do with all of this
Also i feel like everyone dies now is the one who killed the last one.
Like *spoilers if you didn't reach chapter 12*
Emily killed Rogers, Rogers killed macarthur before him, and like this. Does this make sense 😅?
Gamar ❤ wrote: "Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "WOOOWWW i loooove your notes🥺They'll definitely help.
I actually haven't read past chapter 8 in the past 2 days bc of college 😓
Ok ch 12 tomorrow inshaAllah 🤝"
Tha..."
Just try what i told you to avoid wasting your time writing your notes 😓
Oh ok no prob ☺️ no no I'm waiting for you take your time 🥰
I DID IT !!!!! also points for knowing the song
Gamar ❤ wrote: "I DID IT !!!!! also points for knowing the song"CONGRATS 🎉👏
i think i know it😅 i don't listen to music too much tho 😂
btw, at which chapter did you stop?
Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "btw, at which chapter did you stop?"im on chapter 11 i think , i went ot the farm yesterday so i didnt get to read . hbu?
Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "Gamar ❤ wrote: "Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "You know, i feel like Agatha Christie is tricking us and the killer won't be anyone from the guests 👀 I'll like this more tbh"Yeah i thought of tha..."
OMg thats actually genius and quite possible .im just gonna take a minute to think abt this a little
Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "Gamar ❤ wrote: "I DID IT !!!!! also points for knowing the song"CONGRATS 🎉👏
i think i know it😅 i don't listen to music too much tho 😂"
I get it ( 3ala baly)
Gamar ❤ wrote: "Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "btw, at which chapter did you stop?"im on chapter 11 i think , i went ot the farm yesterday so i didnt get to read . hbu?"
I stopped at chapter 12. No pressure ok?☺️
Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "Gamar ❤ wrote: "Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "WOOOWWW i loooove your notes🥺They'll definitely help.
I actually haven't read past chapter 8 in the past 2 days bc of college 😓
Ok ch 12 tomorrow in..."
what did u tell me 😬
Gamar ❤ wrote: "Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "Gamar ❤ wrote: "Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "You know, i feel like Agatha Christie is tricking us and the killer won't be anyone from the guests 👀 I'll like this ..."I can't wait for this book to shock me tbh🤯
Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "Gamar ❤ wrote: "Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "Gamar ❤ wrote: "Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "You know, i feel like Agatha Christie is tricking us and the killer won't be anyone from the guests 👀..."IKKK . IM SURE IT WILL
Gamar ❤ wrote: "Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "Gamar ❤ wrote: "Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "WOOOWWW i loooove your notes🥺They'll definitely help.
I actually haven't read past chapter 8 in the past 2 days bc o..."
What👀
NO PRESSURE 😂😂 I'll definitely wait for you no worries
Or tell you what? If you're gonna read for example tomorrow till a certain chapter tell me, I'm not pressured at the time. Ok?
Im thinking i might stop with my notes bcz what even is the point .
im saying this part:Just try what i told you to avoid wasting your time writing your notes 😓
Oh ok no prob ☺️ no no I'm waiting for you take your time 🥰
Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "Gamar ❤ wrote: "Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "Gamar ❤ wrote: "Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "WOOOWWW i loooove your notes🥺They'll definitely help.
I actually haven't read past chapter 8 in the ..."
ill have time to read now since im on midterm so we should be good .
The book has 16 chapters . i can finish upto chapter 12 today for sure so do u want us to finish chapter 16 by/on wednesday ?
Gamar ❤ wrote: "Im thinking i might stop with my notes bcz what even is the point ."Yes yes, if we have theories we post them here, they helped at the beginning.
Gamar ❤ wrote: "Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "Gamar ❤ wrote: "Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "Gamar ❤ wrote: "Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "WOOOWWW i loooove your notes🥺They'll definitely help.
I actually hav..."
Only if it suits your time i have no problem 👍
Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "Gamar ❤ wrote: "Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "Gamar ❤ wrote: "Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "Gamar ❤ wrote: "Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "WOOOWWW i loooove your notes🥺They'll definitely help..."
ok :)
You know how vera started laughing after rogers was found dead? ( btw I WAS RIGHT abt the rhyme) and then ppl were all like shes so sensible and non hysterical , its unlike her to behave like this . im ossy but to me Vera is the most emotional one there what are they on about ??
Blore just admitted to his sin/murder . do u think hes next now coz of that . mcarthur (general) admitted to it and then boom struck dead , same with tony and a bunch of others but then again almost evr1 has admitted ..
Would it work i wonder . its worth tyring . if theres time .My god, if theres timeThat damned fool! he believed every word i said to him . it was easy..i must be careful tho , very careful
at this point i have no thoughts except their own and my brain is fried
OMG I REALLY THINK UR RIGHTyour theory makes so much sense
dont read if you havent gotten to the part where their now four :
(view spoiler)
Ok i fifnshed chapter 13 and iv stopped there . ill continue tomorrow . Mennatallah u decide wether we should finish the book tom or not k?
Gamar ❤ wrote: "You know how vera started laughing after rogers was found dead? ( btw I WAS RIGHT abt the rhyme) and then ppl were all like shes so sensible and non hysterical , its unlike her to behave like this ..."Your guesses were right! She's definitely the emotional one, you know, it'll make sense if she's the one who committed suicide at this point because of her guilt.
Gamar ❤ wrote: "Blore just admitted to his sin/murder . do u think hes next now coz of that . mcarthur (general) admitted to it and then boom struck dead , same with tony and a bunch of others but then again almos..."That will be so satisfying, good sequence for the murders.
Gamar ❤ wrote: "Would it work i wonder . its worth tyring . if theres time .My god, if theres timeThat damned fool! he believed every word i said to him . it was easy..i must be careful tho , very careful
at thi..."
SAAME🤯
Mennatallah | منةُ الله wrote: "Gamar ❤ wrote: "You know how vera started laughing after rogers was found dead? ( btw I WAS RIGHT abt the rhyme) and then ppl were all like shes so sensible and non hysterical , its unlike her to b..."GREAT ADDITION . but i dont wanna rule blore out yet either . his character profile notes are soooo fishy . hes been here before remeber ? We're so close !
Gamar ❤ wrote: "OMG I REALLY THINK UR RIGHTyour theory makes so much sense
dont read if you havent gotten to the part where their now four :
[spoilers removed]"
OooH i agree! he's creepy 👀
Excited for both our first buddy reads :)
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