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Feb 28, 2015 04:33PM

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Those were both so bad...

Those were both so bad..."
I have a great respect for Keene and have loved so many of his books, but, yeah, it's almost like those two books were written by someone else; they just don't match the quality of horror I've come to expect from Keene.

I started with The Rising, City of the Dead, Dead Sea and then Conqueror Worms (later changed to Earthworm Gods) then Ghoul. Basically I was on my fourth Keene book before the plot did not involve the end of the world. Intense dude.
Personal favorite is probably Terminal.

I started with The Rising, City of the Dead, ..."
A number of people have mentioned Terminal to me. I have to move that up my list.


Terminal is one of his better books. Not strictly horror, but a very well written thriller with some supernatural elemnts.

I seem to remember seeing that these two were homages to Richard Laymon (Castaways) and Edward Lee or Jack Ketchum (Urban Gothic), giving both a different feel than his other books. I remember Castaways as being a fun, over the top read in a similar way as Laymon's books. Lots of gore, sex and mayhem. I didn't really like Urban Gothic as much though, but I also don't really dig the splatterpunk stuff anyway.
I enjoyed his zombie books, but Conqueror Worms is still my favorite of his.

I was expecting a little more gruesomeness in the book than there was. I've always heard that Keene writes a lot of splatterpunk but, while this book did have some violent moments, it was more subdued than what I'd consider splat. Does he have work that gets gorier than this, or is this a fair example of Keene's general violence level?

his zombie books take on a different twist as to why everything is happening which I liked. I highly recommend reading his book the rising.
Ghoul is definitely a fav. I also enjoyed reading Dark Hallow and didn't see anyone mention that.
His work is gory. I felt the zombie series was gorier.
I read his book castaways recently and although there was gore, I felt that it was the weakest book I've read of his so far.




Somehow I didn't like The Rising that much, perhaps because of the rather open ending, but the sequel City of the Dead was the best piece of apocalyptic horror since James Herbert's Domain. My second favourite book by Keene would be Terminal, because it's hard, bitter, ironic and depressing, all that while telling a quite realistic heist story with little supernatural elements. His other works (Castaways, Kill Whitey, The Darkess at the Edge of Town etc.) are still good reads (4 stars at average). I like the way his stories are interconnected...
I'm reading Clickers vs. Zombies right now:
The last three books in J. F. Gonzaelz's Clickers series were co-written by Keene. While the second book is a straight sequel, the third one is crossover between Clicker's, Lovecraft and Keene's Labyrinth mythos. Clickers vs. Zombies is a crossover between Clickers and
The Rising, set in another reality level of the main sagas. Despite being crossovers, Keene's own mythology and multiverse is rather well explained in these volumes.

The last three books in J. F. Gonzaelz's Clickers series were co-written by Keene. While the second book is a straight sequel, the third one is crossover between Clicker's, Lovecraft and Keene's Labyrinth mythos. Clickers vs. Zombies is a crossover between Clickers and
The Rising, set in another reality level of the main sagas. Despite being crossovers, Keene's own mythology and multiverse is rather well explained in these volumes.

I loved The Conqueror Worms and would adamantly recommend it. I just read Dark Hollow and that was even better.

The first two were in my opinion pretty good, with a lot of gore, splatt and blood. They are zombie novels with a very interesting twist, so they are a little different than the usual zombie novel.
They are fun, fast paced and not suitable for the faint of heart or stomach.

I am going to give him one more try at some point before I give up on him for good, though. But I find zombies boring (several friends have recommended The Rising), but I'll eventually find one.


I am going to give hi..."
What do you mean by self-pitying?
I agree about zombies. I don't read a lot of zombie fiction either.

The character that is Keene (and every book I've read has a "Keene" character in it) is feeling sorry for himself and it takes over the book's atmosphere. It comes out full-blown in The Girl on the Glider: Keene, writing about himself in this one, constantly bemoans the fact that he is a "mid-list horror writer" and I suppose is going through a midlife crisis. It is really unappealing and not very interesting (the book is saved only by a really spooky finale--that doesn't involve zombies or worms!). It would seem to me that he is pretty lucky to be even a mid-list horror writer (though he's bottom-list for me right now).


Also read his short story Alone which was okay - I didn't find it scary - I found it more strange than anything - then when I got to the end and finally figured out what was going on, it reminded me of a horror flick I had seen a few years back.

I didn't find there to be any "feel sorry for your self" characters in it, as they were all too busy trying to stay alive.
Granted, I own a LOT of Keene books but have only recently become a fan, so haven't read that many of them. Yet.
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