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Marissa Doyle | 147 comments I'm rereading The Toll-Gate (I've always loved the use to which GH put the historical fact of (view spoiler) in this book) and had a thought: the story opens with the big get-together of the hero, John's, family...but once he leaves it, the family is never on stage again. I have to wonder, though--might GH have introduced the weak, excessively slender and stoop-shouldered earl and had in mind that even though he was marrying, he would one day die childless and the earldom would pass to the much more "noble" John?

I dunno. Just a thought--anyone else?


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Jackie | 1730 comments I think more than one person has posted that the first chapter reads like the author is going to get back to at least some of those people and include them in the book but then she changed her mind and never did.
I like your idea!


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Susan in Perthshire (susanageofaquarius) | 1448 comments In JK’s Heyer biography, it’s made quite clear that Heyer started the book with one idea and then changed tack to the one we all know and love. But she left the first chapter as it was. Hence the characters who are introduced, and never heard of again!


Critterbee❇ (critterbee) | 2786 comments Marissa wrote: "I'm rereading The Toll-Gate (I've always loved the use to which GH put the historical fact of [spoilers removed] in this book) and had a thought: the story opens with the big get-together of the he..."

I agree, that is an interesting point in this book.


Marissa Doyle | 147 comments Oh, yes, I'm aware of that...but I wonder if she went back and tweaked the opening chapter to set up for the idea I mentioned. There's an awful lot of emphasis of the Earl's incompetence and unfitness versus John's decisive manliness. ;)


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Kathleen (user_kathleen) | 13 comments I got the impression that John/Jack doesn’t need it or even really want it. He has an independence and seems content with that, which makes for a less exalted hero than typical. I did wonder if (view spoiler)


sabagrey | 380 comments Susan in Perthshire wrote: "In JK’s Heyer biography, it’s made quite clear that Heyer started the book with one idea and then changed tack to the one we all know and love. But she left the first chapter as it was. Hence the c..."

Maybe she left it in because it makes such a nice contrast in backdrop. She begins with the usual, expected 'Polite world' and then lets the hero, and the story, wander out of it ... it's the same path she took herself when writing the book.


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Jackie | 1730 comments I really like that idea, sabagrey.


Teresa | 2187 comments Reading it now again I think it's a pity some of the early chapter characters didn't appear again. I think Albinia would have been interesting and I liked Jack's mother. A woman of sense who understood her 'unusual' son. I'd like to see what she would have made of the situation.


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