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message 1: by mina, Group/Buddy Reads Procrastinator (last edited May 29, 2023 03:35AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

mina | 2950 comments Mod
This is the group thread for Fourth Wing!

This thread is open for discussion beginning June 1st! Please keep in mind that spoilers are allowed (mark as a spoiler) in this thread but only up to the group's current reading place. Do not spoil the book if you've read further than the group. Any extra days of the month can be used to catch up if needed! Page numbers are an approximation based on the hardcover or paperback that is the default on Goodreads.

The Group Read Discussion schedule is as follows:

Week of 06/01
01: Chapters 1-2 or 25 pages
02: Chapters 3-4 or 25 pages
03: Chapters 5-6 or 25 pages
04: Chapters 7-8 or 25 pages

Week of 06/05
05: Chapters 9-10 or 25 pages
06: Chapters 11-12 or 25 pages
07: Chapters 13-14 or 25 pages
08: Chapters 15-16 or 25 pages
09: Chapters 17-18 or 25 pages
10: Chapters 19-20 or 25 pages
11: Chapters 21-22 or 25 pages

Week of 06/12
12: Chapters 23-24 or 25 pages
13: Chapters 25-26 or 25 pages
14: Chapters 27-28 or 25 pages
15: Chapters 29-30 or 25 pages
16: Chapters 31-32 or 25 pages
17: Chapters 33-34 or 25 pages
18: Chapters 35-36 or 25 pages

Week of 06/19
19: Chapters 37-38 or 25 pages
20: Chapters 39-end or 25 pages

You can read the group book at any time during the month and at your own pace. This is the pace the group will be using, but if you read ahead or will be giving spoilers, please mark them (click the "some html is ok button"). If you have any questions a mod or another member can help you.


Katie (love---katie) | 576 comments The hold on the library was MASSIVE but I got lucky and found the audiobook on Scribd! I listened to the first two chapters this morning. I feel like right off the bat, it's not doing anything super unique or interesting, but readable and enjoyable enough. A few chapters can only tell you so much though, so I hope it picks up in the next few days.


Laura ☾ | 1102 comments Chapter 1 (view spoiler)

Chapter 2 (view spoiler)


Chapter 3 (view spoiler)


message 4: by mina, Group/Buddy Reads Procrastinator (new) - rated it 5 stars

mina | 2950 comments Mod
🙈 I started it, planning on reading only the first two chapters...and I ended up reading 11, and I can't say I'm done for today because I want to continue it when I get home from work...if I don't get home late that is 🤞

It really is easy to read, and I got pulled into the story.


Laura ☾ | 1102 comments That sounds very promising! I got caught up with life stuff after the first few chapters but definitely curious to see where it will go and what the hype is about!


Brianna C | 1248 comments Chapter 1: (view spoiler)

Chapter 2: (view spoiler)


Jen K | 1547 comments Hoping to start this next week. Happy to hear the positive feedback so far.


message 8: by Brianna (last edited Jun 03, 2023 07:00AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Brianna C | 1248 comments Chapter 3: (view spoiler)

Chapter 4: (view spoiler)

I'm really enjoying this one so far! Although not a typical book I would read (fantasy romance), I certainly am intrigued!


Laura ☾ | 1102 comments Ok I’m up to Chapter 15 and I’m actually really liking it! Violet is quite engaging as a main character.

(view spoiler).


message 10: by Edith, Group/Buddy Reads Procrastinator (new) - rated it 5 stars

Edith (xeesky) | 799 comments Mod
Just started this today! So far I'm liking the harsh military ambiance of the story. It does seem like a bit of an info dump, but I haven't gotten past chapter 3, so I should've expected that from a high fantasy book lol.

@Brianna: (view spoiler)

@Katie: thanks for the Scribd tip! Ran straight to it after reading your comment lol


Laura ☾ | 1102 comments Ok I've finished it and I absolutely loved it and can't wait for the next book already !

Overall, I think the plot was a bit predictable at times, but I loved the characters and the setting so I had a tonne of fun reading it!


Brianna C | 1248 comments Chapters 5 - 8: (view spoiler)


Laura ☾ | 1102 comments @Brianna I agree completely ! (view spoiler)


Katie (love---katie) | 576 comments I'm caught up to today's chapters and I'm enjoying it a lot more now. I do love a training academy setting so now that we're properly into that part of the story, I'm having a much better time. Violet being sneaky (view spoiler)

The nice thing about reading in 2 chapter chunks is that I feel like I'm actually savoring the story as well. Though I am worried that it will start to feel stale since the book is so long.


Brianna C | 1248 comments So... kind of read majority of it today and finished. I cannot wait to further discuss as more people work their way through it!


Katie (love---katie) | 576 comments I really really liked how Violet got up the gauntlet AND had the rules to back her up in a roundabout way. I'm liking her more and more!


Jen K | 1547 comments I'm starting this one tonight. I'm excited.


Katie (love---katie) | 576 comments The negatives of listening to the audiobook is that I have absolutely no idea how any names are spelled 😂

It's extra difficult now that the dragons are in play and there's so many of them added into the story so quickly. If anyone would like to help a girl out and type out any of the names, I'd greatly appreciate it!


Jen K | 1547 comments Oh my gosh. I started this last night and I'm totally obsessed. It hurt to leave the book behind to go to work today. I had just finished the roll call after the threshing. OMG

I agree with all the comments above. Dain is driving me nuts. It is getting disrespectful his low opinion of Violet. She is smart and finding her own way of succeeding at school. She doesn't need his negativity. I love Xader.

@Katie, I can try to add names tonight.


Shanon | 25 comments I just got it from the library! My hold became available sooner than I thought 😊 I’m going to try to catch up!


Jen K | 1547 comments @Katie, Andarna and Tairn
Xaden- Sgaeyl

Any others?


message 22: by Jen K (last edited Jun 08, 2023 11:50AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jen K | 1547 comments Totally binged my way through this one. It was fun to read. I liked how Violet figured out how to accommodate the training for herself and loved the interactions between riders and dragons. The dragons had so much personality.

(view spoiler)


message 23: by mina, Group/Buddy Reads Procrastinator (new) - rated it 5 stars

mina | 2950 comments Mod
I got so hooked on this one. It was a great book to jump back into reading. I want or at least I wanted to write a longer comment on some things about the book, however since I'm not having enough internet as I would like I'm going to put a pin in it for now.


Katie (love---katie) | 576 comments @Jen K

YOU ARE A LIFESAVER!!! I think I'm good for now, any others I'm not sure about are side characters I don't really care enough to know for sure how to spell their names lol


Brianna C | 1248 comments Jen K wrote: "Totally binged my way through this one. It was fun to read. I liked how Violet figured out how to accommodate the training for herself and loved the interactions between riders and dragons. The dra..."

I also binged it - couldn't help it! lol

(view spoiler)


Katie (love---katie) | 576 comments I'm a couple of chapters ahead so I won't go into details, but does anyone else feel like the "romantic"/lusty part of Violet's personality is extremely out of place? Every time she starts talking about her desire blah blah blah, it feels so disconnected from the rest of the book. I think the plot is running pretty tightly outside of that, but it feels like the author was trying too hard to make this a Fantasy Romance instead of a fantasy with romance and the story is suffering a bit for it.


Shanon | 25 comments @brianna @laura just got to chapter 10 and I’m so annoyed with Dain. Like dude it’s not a good look, making her feel even more weak than she does.


message 28: by Laura ☾ (last edited Jun 09, 2023 10:15AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Laura ☾ | 1102 comments @shannon I get you!

@katie (view spoiler)


Shanon | 25 comments Finished early too! Overall more of a 3.75 for me. I enjoyed the dragons but like @katie said sometimes the relationship stuff felt out of place. Probably will still finish the series.

This reminded me of the Crave series by Tracy Wolff. The relationships and love triangle had a similar vibe. That one is more upper YA so has no descriptive spicy scenes.


Katie (love---katie) | 576 comments I just finished as well! I agree with Shanon, this is like a high 4 rating for me. Definitely a good time and I will probably continue the series once more books come out, but it's not a super high priority.

Also, I feel like this book completely blew up overnight? I know it only came out last month, but it feels like eeeeeveryone is reading it. And normally with huge releases like this I would have heard some buzz online about it pre-release, but I heard not one peep until after it was already out! Did anyone else have this experience or was I just in the dark? lol


Bujo_bellel  (bujo_bellel) | 51 comments I just started this book and I'm listening to it as an audiobook. The narrator is literally so engaging, the way she reads it makes me feel as if I am right there, with Violet and I can feel the tension. Her voice is really emotive too.
Chapter 1:
(view spoiler)
So far really enjoy the writing style, it's really descriptive and detailed.


Bujo_bellel  (bujo_bellel) | 51 comments Chapter 2:
(view spoiler)
Violet has such amusing thoughts, I love her character


message 33: by May (new) - rated it 5 stars

May (theladymidnight) | 553 comments I've read up to chapter 14 so far and I'm really enjoying this! (view spoiler)


Bujo_bellel  (bujo_bellel) | 51 comments Okay just finished this book. Binged it the whole way because I couldn't get enough of our characters. Really enjoyed it. 5 stars for me, I actually quite enjoyed the romance, although sometimes it's a bit random but most of the time I enjoyed it. I cannot wait for the next book to come out! Really want to read it now!!


ALEXANDRA | 20 comments I started it yesterday and I just finished chapter 3. Better late than never... Aetos in Greeks means Eagle but I 100% prefer the big bad boy = Xaden


message 36: by ALEXANDRA (last edited Jun 25, 2023 01:16PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

ALEXANDRA | 20 comments I just finished chapter 9 and I have some thoughts...(view spoiler)
I wish I had more time for reading....!.!.!!!.


ALEXANDRA | 20 comments chapter 16...


ALEXANDRA | 20 comments Almost done... Sorry but I have to express my thoughts for this book in my language (view spoiler)


ALEXANDRA | 20 comments 5 stars from me, The last page is a shock that leaves you with no other choice than wait for the next. So... to be continued
A really good choice for the Group Read! Thank You!!


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May (theladymidnight) | 553 comments Just finished reading chapter 21 and (view spoiler)


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May (theladymidnight) | 553 comments I read up to chapter 31 so far and (view spoiler)


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May (theladymidnight) | 553 comments Finally finished the book and I really enjoyed it! (view spoiler)


Khadija | 30 comments I'm about halfway through the book - (view spoiler)


Khadija | 30 comments I have not been able to put this book down, it is so good 😭 (view spoiler)


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