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Initial Impressions: The Killer Angels, by Michael Shaara - July 2023
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I read this a long time ago and have read many of his son's books, although not any of his Civil War trilogy. Maybe I should correct this.

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I loved this one too, but don't think I will reread it this month. My husband won't read it because it's "fiction" and he prefers non-fiction, historical accounts. However, I read once in an interview that Shaara only had his historical characters say things that had been documented by others or appeared in their own diaries and letters and writings. He made nothing up. That's about as close to historical as you can get.

Some novelists more than others take liberties with the historical record when writing about real people and real events, which is their prerogative, but, as you indicate, Shaara was not one of those.
Yes, it is fiction, but it deviates very little from the known historical facts.

I understand your husband's feeling, but if he likes military history, I would tell him to give this a shot. Today this would probably be characterized as narrative nonfiction, and as such would have the same inaccuracies and the bias of any author but overall Michael Shaara captures an essence of the battle through his narrative that increases the reader's understanding of the whole in perspective especially when accompanying the read with material by regarded authors like Foote or Catton. I haven't read any recent histories of the battle to compare but there has been a trend in recent military history to use an approach like Shaara's. Note Rick Atkinson's recent WWII trilogy or his latest on the American Revolution.
Diane wrote: "I loved this one too, but don't think I will reread it this month. My husband won't read it because it's "fiction" and he prefers non-fiction, historical accounts. However, I read once in an interv..."
I just finished Warlock, by Oakley Hall and in his introduction, he said that "The pursuit of truth, not of facts, is the business of fiction.' Although Warlock is a fictional story about a fictional town in a fictional state, it offers up more truth and insight into the events that happened in Tombstone, Arizona, than did any of the hundreds of so-called True accounts of events. Truth is not always a synonym of facts.
Tell your husband to exercise some of the same wisdom he showed when he picked you and give Shaara a try.
I just finished Warlock, by Oakley Hall and in his introduction, he said that "The pursuit of truth, not of facts, is the business of fiction.' Although Warlock is a fictional story about a fictional town in a fictional state, it offers up more truth and insight into the events that happened in Tombstone, Arizona, than did any of the hundreds of so-called True accounts of events. Truth is not always a synonym of facts.
Tell your husband to exercise some of the same wisdom he showed when he picked you and give Shaara a try.
Sam wrote: "Today this would probably be characterized as narrative nonfiction, and as such would have the same inaccuracies and the bias of any author but overall Michael Shaara captures an essence of the battle through his narrative that increases the reader's understanding of the whole in perspective especially when accompanying the read with material by regarded authors like Foote or Catton.."
I would compare KA to Shelby Foote's Shiloh. Both are novels written by skilled historians and both strive to engage the readers and make them witnesses to what occurred. Chamberlain's defense of Little Round Top is one of the most thrilling events in U.S History and Shaara puts you in the middle of it. It's almost like Cronkite's old "You are there" show.
Rick Atkinson refers to his books as narrative history. I don't believe that he thinks of them as fiction.
I would compare KA to Shelby Foote's Shiloh. Both are novels written by skilled historians and both strive to engage the readers and make them witnesses to what occurred. Chamberlain's defense of Little Round Top is one of the most thrilling events in U.S History and Shaara puts you in the middle of it. It's almost like Cronkite's old "You are there" show.
Rick Atkinson refers to his books as narrative history. I don't believe that he thinks of them as fiction.

Agree 100% Tom and didn't mean to suggest that. What I meant to suggest was that books like Killer Angels, In Cold Blood, etc. had an impact on publishers paving the way for narrative histories and other nonfiction. Some may not find that a good thing but I think it has made for some very entertaining books.
On this reread, I have been paying more heed to the novel as literature, especially the way Shaara uses sentence fragments in the various points of view to impressionistically give us the picture of the whole. I think the style works wonderfully.


Diane, please recommend this one to your husband -- The Class of 1846: From West Point to Appomattox: Stonewall Jackson, George McClellan, and Their Brothers. I'd be really curious to see if it's one he'd be interested in. Also, do you know if he's read any James McPherson? That man is a powerhouse of CW studies! His wife works a lot with him on the research, and I think that's absolutely precious. ♥

And don't give up on the maps, y'all! Gettysburg is managed by the American Battlefield Trust, and their webpage is so helpful. https://www.battlefields.org/learn/ma...
With this read on Gettysburg, my goal is to do what I'm doing with Invisible Man -- immerse myself in it. It's one of those rare to happen lifetime ops to read something wonderful with a great group of people, so I must must must get the most out of it. 🧡📚

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Now your husband *has* to try Shaara, Diane! 😀
Cheryl, do you know what a "contrarian" is? A person who will never do what anyone else tells him to do, including books, movies, TV shows, new restaurants, etc. You can see him tense up when anyone says "You will love this!" Fortunately he has other great qualities, and I have learned the valuable art of manipulation.

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Sam wrote: "What I meant to suggest was that books like Killer Angels, In Cold Blood, etc..."
As much as I loved In Cold Blood, I cringe at the idea that it makes Truman Capote into an historian. He definitely took liberties with the truth on that one.
As much as I loved In Cold Blood, I cringe at the idea that it makes Truman Capote into an historian. He definitely took liberties with the truth on that one.
It is with much reluctance that I have to pass on this opportunity to reread this classic work. I will be following the conversation closely.
Anyone who is on the fence about this book should definitely jump in. It's a gem.
Anyone who is on the fence about this book should definitely jump in. It's a gem.


This is a book that defies any genre except greatness. I may have to join in and do a reread just for the pleasure.


@Everyone - I'll start this by next Tuesday. Finishing Invisible Man, and prepping to lead a discussion on Faulkner's Requiem for a Nun (will post about that on the WF thread).

I was thinking the same thing, Cathrine. I really don't have time to read it, but after all the great comments, I just had to pick it up at the library to read later this month!
I wasn't going to reread it either, but got it from the library today and am already hooked. The writing!
"Ah, but Colonel, darlin',, I've been in the infantry since before you was born. It's them first few thousand miles. After that, a man gets a limber to his feet."
I love Kilrain.
These maps are very helpful in envisioning the action.
I love Kilrain.
These maps are very helpful in envisioning the action.

That's what happened to me too Libby. Wasn't planning to reread, then read the first little bit and fell under the spell. Something special about reading this during the same month the battle was fought. You don't even have to imagine the heat.

My best friend was an avid Gettysburg enthusiast, so I have spent many a day there with her. I found this book on my shelf with an index card about a fourth of the way in but have no recollection of having even started the book. Maybe it was her book that she loaned to me. She passed about 1 1/2 yrs ago, so I will be reading this in honor of her love for Gettysburg. And I can hear her asking, what took you so long?

I am about 3 chapters in and the writing is very smooth and clear, quite easy to visualize and you can get into the character's heads a little. I like the shifts from different points of view so far and the maps included.

That's such a heartfelt comment, Lexy, and a lovely way to honor your friend.

Those maps are perfect for visualizing the action of the battles, hour by hour. I think getting into the heads of the generals is what makes this book so special. Robert E. Lee was an old man, and unwell, not the God his men thought he was. We come to know all these men, and it humanizes the battle, and we see what an awful thing this war was.
What a special tribute Lexy! I went to Gettsburg just once, probably 30 years ago. I still remember feeling like the ghosts of those men were all around.

@ Diane, speaking of ghosts, my friend lived in an older house along the Potomac & often saw a civil war soldier walking back & forth on her porch.

Books mentioned in this topic
The Innocents Abroad, Or, the New Pilgrims' Progress (other topics)This Republic of Suffering: Death and the American Civil War (other topics)
In Cold Blood (other topics)
The Class of 1846: From West Point to Appomattox: Stonewall Jackson, George McClellan, and Their Brothers (other topics)
Shiloh (other topics)
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Authors mentioned in this topic
Mark Twain (other topics)Truman Capote (other topics)
Rick Atkinson (other topics)
Oakley Hall (other topics)