A Good Thriller discussion

An analyst on the news today stated that he won't be surprised that this time next week, they'll be sitting right where they are talking about what terrible attack has just happened over the weekend. I just hope everybody can be as safe as they can.

Well said Quillracer!

Kim, you are either up really late or up really early where you live...

I live about 5 miles from there. It is one of the most popular beaches in So. California. Great breakers for the surfers and some new hotels across from the beach. As bad as the crowds are during regular summer days, the 4th will be unbelievable. Geez, I hope nothing happens.

We sit in the driveway and watch fireworks all around us. I wouldn't go near the beach on the 4th of July.

Even in Canada, there is so much talk on TV about being careful on the 4th of July. I hope everything will be safe. Too many bad things happening lately.

I was awake really early Chris... 4am...too hot to sleep!

It is so scary all the bad things happening...:(

Stay safe Patricia!! I really hope everything will be alright !!

I hope that nothing bad happens in the US and Canada and anywhere, be safe everyone.

Christine wrote: "Aymen, I thought of you and Faouzia immediately. I am so relieved you both are OK physically. We too are so angry about these increasing terroristic attacks all around the world. What has become..."

Ultimately? It's idiocy bred by shallow literacy and, in the case of the teenagers, bad parents who refuse to discipline the kids in any way whatsoever. Or at least that's MY honest opinion.

Faouzia: See my above comment regarding the lack of disciplinary action on the part of bad parents.

Terrorists, regardles of what they say their religion is, are nothing BUT PHYSICALLY GROWN UP VERSIONS OF THE SCHOOL YARD BULLY! Treat them like the bullies they are.

Christine (again): Horse hockey! They aren't sociopaths! They're PSYCHOPATHS!

Patricia: If the security is going "to be tight," then the terrorists HAVE ALREADY WON because by changing our behaviors , WE HAVE GIVEN THEM EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT: ATTENTION! See above comment regarding bullies.

Agree with you Amber!

Thanks, Kimberely.

This Daily Kos article pertains to my previous post: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06...

Aymen, I thought of you when I heard the terrible news. I'm so sad that this has happened to your country. I'm with all of you in praying for peace.

I've had my head buried in books lately, and I'm sorry I didn't reach out to Aymen and Faouzia sooner. I'm so glad the two of you are safe! My heart goes out to you and your country.

I feel as Christine and Quillracer stated above.

All this worry about people whose religion does not preach violence.

I agree that if we change our behavior then the terrorists win; HOWEVER, I would rather let them have this (small in comparison) victory and live to tell about it.

Thank you so much Amber, Brenda and Michael,we feel really sorry for the victims and their families, and i agree with you Dawn we should keep living and go out, i know that one day i m going to die, so all i can do is try to do good and be happy until that day.

Dawn wrote: "I agree that if we change our behavior then the terrorists win; HOWEVER, I would rather let them have this (small in comparison) victory and live to tell about it."

That kind of attitude will likely bring about their ultimate victory, letting them have that victory (a change in behavior) and living to tell about it.

Bless you Aaron, stay strong. Take each day as it comes.

My mum also suffers from depression. Know that you are not alone. Do the things every day that make you smile (even very little things) and try to avoid negative people/situations. And stick with your therapist if he/she is helping! :)
I speak to my mum most days, I think she finds just talking helps.

:) xx

Aaron, I am so sorry to hear you are feeling so badly these days. That is so fortunate you have a wonderful therapist as well as your wife and son. Just take things one day at a time, one hour at a time. Even one minute at a time when you are felling especially bad. Make sure to get outside for some fresh air and a little walk everyday. PM me if you ever want to chat. Sending good thoughts for you, buddy.

Kimberley wrote: "Bless you Aaron, stay strong. Take each day as it comes.

My mum also suffers from depression. Know that you are not alone. Do the things every day that make you smile (even very little things) an..."

Kim, you are a really fine daughter.

Aaron, take care of yourself...one day at a time. So glad you have a great therapist. We all care about your well being, Aaron.

Hi Aaron sorry you re not feeling okay, i suffered from depression and anxiety, my psychiartist used to give me a lot of meds for three years, then i stopped but it was really hard now my generalist doctor gave a med that i use every two or three days in small dose. Sometimes i feel okay, sometimes i don t, i wanted to get rid of anxiety for years, but now i think i need just to reduce it and keep it under control. Workout and reading are helping a lot, we need to keep our minds busy with postive activities in order to reduce the bad thoughts. I hope you will feel better, remember sometimes things are not as bad as we see them, and we are not perfect, nobody is, so go easy on yourself when you make mistakes, this is how we learn.. You are a good person who care about other people, everything is gonna be okay, take care my friend :)

Aaron, I wish you all the best. I'm glad you have your family and a therapist who are helping you. Nature is a great healer for the spirit. If I was there, I'd walk with you.

Aymen and Kim, you are such good friends to share your own personal experiences. It helps us all to see what others are coping with.

One day at a time is the best way to go, Aaron.

You are right Amber

Thank you, Aymen.

"It is close, hiding in the dark, watching us. It follows us at home, in the street, at work, everywhere... And when our day comes, it s going to strike without warning or caring about our plans, to turn us into a memory in the minds of the people who loved us" I had this thought after loosing a friend, and two cousins in these last three years, it makes me think a lot.

Oh my Aymen. I am sorry for your losses but what a beautiful and haunting prose you have written.

Thank you Pat

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This is why I think a certain American Dentist should be named and shamed.

How can we call this man a Human Being !

Rest in Peace Cecil, the leopard and the Rhino he killed just for fun !!

I totally agree with you, Sean. This killer's office is right here in Minnesota less than 90 minutes up the road from where we live. He had to shut down his business because of the demonstration going on in his office parking lot. He has killed many many animals just for the sport of it and so he can mount their heads on the walls in his house. He is getting no sympathy from me.

Read this news this morning Sean, and I was going to throw up.
Noble creatures killed for nothing. No words, just disgust.

Yeah, this has been all over social media the last couple of days. No excuses for that kind of ......... grrrr

I hope he gets extradited.

Coward is in hiding somewhere.

Apparently he was apprehended several years ago for shooting a bear in Wisconsin (one of Minnesota's bordering states) illegally. These guys don't get penalized enough.

Is hunting still allowed in certain areas in the US. Don't know what the laws are out there?

Gosh. yes, Janet. All states, I believe. There are rules--certain times of year, certain areas, but animal killing just for fun is alive and well in th United States of America. Bambi-blasting at its best.

If an animal was shot like that in front of me I'd be heartbroken. I just don't understand how pleasure is derived from killing these animals?!! For sport?!!! It's sick.....

Sad isn't it?! Human behaviour not at its best. :-(

I do wonder what will happen to him ultimately. I seriously think his life is in danger, the uproar this has caused.

I know, Janet!! I think hunting for sport is horrific!!

Well, this dentist didn't break any US laws by killing Cecil, so unless he is extradited, which somehow I doubt, he won't be punished by the law. On the other hand, public outcry has been enormous. He may have people looking to harm him.

I think that's a given, Chris.

The whole thing is just awful. I wonder if he regrets it now or his arrogance perseveres. I wonder if his family support him.

I have to think his family supports him or they would have left him. I see Zimbabwe is asking for his extradition (watching lead story on local news). I guess that is in the hands of the Dept of Justice. I bet he regrets it as he is in deep trouble around the world, but it also sounds like he feels it wasn't his fault and he did everything legally. He says the guides he hired steered him wrong. So in that respect, he feels HE did nothing wrong based on what he was told by the guides.

Is there not hunting for sport in the UK, Janet? Foxhunts and all that?

I'm not sure the state of play on fox hunting. Another sport I loathe. I mean what the hell who wants to be hunted?!! It's cruel. I thought it was banned for a time but that may have changed. I'd have to look into it.

Deer, pheasant, duck, bear, those sorts of animals, Janet?

Yes, there are hunting seasons for birds and deer but it seems to be dependent on areas around the UK and what the guidelines are there. Restrictions and guidelines are in place it seems. That's something I guess.

You know, attitudes on hunting are as varied as types of people, their area's history, their upbringing. I've lived in and around semi-rural areas where I can see some of the attraction -people getting together to have a meal on something worked for from start to finish - or from necessity - catching fish, hunting quail, rabbits, ducks, even larger game when it's seasonal (and otherwise the herd can suffer due to overpopulation and lack of plentiful food). But personally I've never understood the why of wanting to kill something - watch it die and cut it up. There has to be an undercurrent of the stuff we read involving serial killers doing the same to humans. It's just the consequences are more severe if caught.
I've also caught myself with tears in my eyes to see a hurting bird or puppy, but can tell a friend "man up!" when they're bleeding and whining. Maybe I'm a little skewed...
Also, PBS has some great nature shows, and one on particular documentary "Living with Mule Deer"
http://www.pbslearningmedia.org/resou...
A man spent 7 years with a herd learning their individual personalities, earning their trust and growing to love them. It ended one hunting season when he was asked by a group of hunters to help them load a buck they had just "bagged" onto their truck, and he knew the deer, and cried (it was heart breaking) but could do nothing about it but help them. It was all legal, up and up, but afterward he walked away from the herd. Couldn't do it anymore.

Just a long winded train of thought...

In most states they have volunteer population counters to complete a census of deer and other animals. When the population becomes too dense they begin to suffer diseases. One year one of the midwest states prohibited hunting and the deer population became so dense that they contracted a deadly brain disease. My niece's neighbor in Kentucky is a doctor and he said that any deer that was found dead was decapitated and the head was sent to a State Health lab. (He said it was Wisc. or Minn. I can't remember which) He added that this particular disease could be contracted by humans making this particularly dangerous. He told us that his sister (who lived in one of those States) became ill with this and was hospitalized for over a week. The surrounding states began to get worried (knowing deer can migrate) so States like Kentucky required all deer brains to be sent to their labs before people were allow to consume the meat.