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𝓣𝓸 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓜𝓮𝓶𝓫𝓮𝓻𝓼 𝓸𝓯 𝓛𝓾𝔁 𝓪𝓷𝓭 𝓟𝓮𝓸𝓹𝓵𝓮 𝓸𝓯 𝓥𝓸𝔁𝓽𝓱𝓪𝓲𝓷:
𝓘𝓽 𝓲𝓼 𝓽𝓲𝓶𝓮 𝓯𝓸𝓻 𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓼 𝓹𝓪𝓹𝓮𝓻 𝓽𝓸 𝓫𝓮 𝓾𝓹 𝓪𝓷𝓭 𝓻𝓾𝓷𝓷𝓲𝓷𝓰!!! 𝓣𝓱𝓲𝓼 𝓲𝓼 𝓶𝔂 𝓲𝓷𝓽𝓻𝓸𝓭𝓾𝓬𝓽𝓲𝓸𝓷, 𝓱𝓮𝓵𝓵𝓸 𝓵𝓸𝓿𝓮𝔂 𝓹𝓮𝓸𝓹𝓵𝓮 𝓸𝓯 𝓥𝓸𝔁𝓽𝓱𝓪𝓲𝓷 𝓪𝓷𝓭 𝓯𝓻𝓲𝓮𝓷𝓭𝓼, 𝓘'𝓶 𝓲𝓷 𝓬𝓱𝓪𝓻𝓰𝓮 𝓸𝓯 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓹𝓪𝓹𝓮𝓻. 𝓜𝔂 𝓰𝓸𝓪𝓵 𝓲𝓼 𝓽𝓸 𝓶𝓪𝓴𝓮 𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓼 𝓪𝓼 𝓯𝓾𝓷 𝓸𝓯 𝓪𝓷 𝓮𝔁𝓹𝓮𝓻𝓲𝓮𝓷𝓬𝓮 𝓪𝓷𝓭 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓮 𝓪𝓷 𝓪𝓬𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓪𝓽𝓮 ( 𝓽𝓸 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓢𝓮𝓪𝓿𝓮𝔂'𝓼 𝓼𝓽𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪𝓻𝓭𝓼 ) 𝓷𝓮𝔀𝓼𝓹𝓪𝓹𝓮𝓻.
𝓣𝓱𝓲𝓼 𝓽𝓸𝓹𝓲𝓬 𝓲𝓼 𝓯𝓸𝓻 𝓷𝓮𝔀𝓼𝓹𝓪𝓹𝓮𝓻 𝓻𝓮𝓺𝓾𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓼. 𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓵𝓸𝓿𝓮𝓵𝔂 𝓶𝓸𝓭𝓼 𝓱𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓶𝓪𝓭𝓮 𝓪 𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓾𝓽𝓲𝓯𝓾𝓵 𝓯𝓸𝓻𝓶𝓪𝓵 𝓭𝓮𝓼𝓬𝓻𝓲𝓹𝓽𝓲𝓸𝓷 (𝓽𝓱𝓪𝓷𝓴 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓫𝔂 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝔀𝓪𝔂 <3) 𝓯𝓸𝓻 𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓼 𝓽𝓸𝓹𝓲𝓬. 𝓢𝓸, 𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓼 𝓲𝓼 𝓶𝔂 𝓿𝓮𝓻𝔂 𝓷𝓸𝓷-𝓯𝓸𝓻𝓶𝓪𝓵 𝓲𝓷𝓽𝓻𝓸𝓭𝓾𝓬𝓽𝓲𝓸𝓷 𝓽𝓸 𝓻𝓾𝓲𝓷 𝓲𝓽 (𝔂𝓸𝓾𝓻 𝔀𝓮𝓵𝓬𝓸𝓶𝓮 𝓶𝓸𝓭𝓼 :) ). 𝓘𝓯 𝓪𝓷𝔂𝓸𝓷𝓮 𝓱𝓪𝓼 𝓪𝓷 𝓲𝓭𝓮𝓪, 𝓼𝓾𝓰𝓰𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓲𝓸𝓷, 𝓸𝓻 𝓪 𝓻𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓸𝓶 𝓽𝓱𝓸𝓾𝓰𝓱𝓽 𝓪𝓫𝓸𝓾𝓽 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓹𝓪𝓹𝓮𝓻, 𝓲𝓽 𝓬𝓪𝓷 𝓮𝓿𝓮𝓷 𝓫𝓮 𝓪 𝓳𝓸𝓴𝓮 𝓵𝓸𝓵, 𝓹𝓵𝓮𝓪𝓼𝓮 𝓹𝓸𝓼𝓽 𝓲𝓽 𝓱𝓮𝓻𝓮! 𝓘'𝓶 𝓪𝓵𝔀𝓪𝔂𝓼 𝓵𝓸𝓸𝓴𝓲𝓷𝓰 𝓯𝓸𝓻 𝓷𝓮𝔀 𝓬𝓸𝓷𝓽𝓮𝓷𝓽! 𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓹𝓾𝓫𝓵𝓲𝓬𝓪𝓽𝓲𝓸𝓷𝓼 𝓸𝓯 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓷𝓮𝔀𝓼𝓹𝓪𝓹𝓮𝓻 𝓬𝓸𝓷𝓽𝓪𝓲𝓷𝓼 𝓫𝓪𝓼𝓲𝓬𝓪𝓵𝓵𝔂 𝓪𝓷𝔂𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓰 𝓽𝓸 𝓭𝓸 𝔀𝓲𝓽𝓱 𝓥𝓲𝔁𝓽𝓱𝓪𝓲𝓷: 𝓯𝓻𝓸𝓶 𝓾𝓹𝓭𝓪𝓽𝓮𝓼 𝓸𝓷 𝓼𝓱𝓪𝓭𝓸𝔀𝓯𝓸𝓰 𝓽𝓸 𝓶𝓾𝓻𝓭𝓮𝓻𝓼, 𝓯𝓻𝓸𝓶 𝓰𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓼 𝓽𝓸 𝓬𝓸𝓾𝓷𝓬𝓲𝓵𝓵𝓸𝓻 𝓹𝓵𝓪𝓷𝓼, 𝓯𝓻𝓸𝓶 𝓶𝓪𝓻𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓰𝓮 𝓪𝓷𝓷𝓸𝓾𝓷𝓬𝓮𝓶𝓮𝓷𝓽𝓼 𝓽𝓸 𝓬𝓸𝓶𝓶𝓾𝓷𝓲𝓽𝔂 𝓬𝓮𝓵𝓮𝓫𝓻𝓪𝓽𝓲𝓸𝓷𝓼, 𝓪𝓷𝓭 𝓶𝓾𝓬𝓱 𝓶𝓾𝓬𝓱 𝓶𝓸𝓻𝓮 (𝓼𝓸 𝓪𝓷𝔂 𝓪𝓷𝓭 𝓪𝓵𝓵 𝓲𝓭𝓮𝓪𝓼 𝓪𝓻𝓮 𝔀𝓮𝓵𝓬𝓸𝓶𝓮 𝓪𝓷𝓭 𝓶𝓸𝓼𝓽 𝓵𝓲𝓴𝓮𝓵𝔂 𝔀𝓲𝓵𝓵 𝓫𝓮 𝓾𝓼𝓮𝓭).
𝓘 𝓱𝓸𝓹𝓮 𝓮𝓿𝓮𝓻𝔂𝓸𝓷𝓮 𝓮𝓷𝓳𝓸𝔂𝓼 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓹𝓪𝓹𝓮𝓻! 𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓯𝓲𝓻𝓼𝓽 𝓹𝓾𝓫𝓵𝓲𝓬𝓪𝓽𝓲𝓸𝓷 𝔀𝓲𝓵𝓵 𝓫𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓵𝓮𝓪𝓼𝓮𝓭 𝓪𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓸𝓷 𝓪𝓼 𝓲𝓽 𝓲𝓼 𝓯𝓲𝓷𝓲𝓼𝓱𝓮𝓭! ( 𝓼𝓲𝓭𝓮 𝓷𝓸𝓽𝓮: 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓶𝓸𝓻𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓺𝓾𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓼 𝓪𝓷𝓭 𝓲𝓭𝓮𝓪𝓼 𝓘 𝓰𝓮𝓽 𝓪𝓵𝓸𝓷𝓰 𝔀𝓲𝓽𝓱 𝓶𝔂 𝓸𝔀𝓷 𝓶𝓮𝓪𝓷 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓶𝓸𝓻𝓮/𝓵𝓸𝓷𝓰𝓮𝓻 𝓹𝓾𝓫𝓵𝓲𝓬𝓪𝓽𝓲𝓸𝓷𝓼 𝓘 𝓬𝓪𝓷 𝓶𝓪𝓴𝓮 𝓼𝓸 𝓮𝓿𝓮𝓷 𝓲𝓯 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓴 𝓲𝓽'𝓼 𝓭𝓾𝓶𝓫, 𝓹𝓵𝓮𝓪𝓼𝓮 𝓼𝓱𝓪𝓻𝓮! ) 𝓗𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓯𝓾𝓷 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓭𝓲𝓷𝓰 <3
𝓢𝓲𝓷𝓬𝓮𝓻𝓮𝓵𝔂, 𝓐𝓵𝓹𝓱𝓪 𝓪𝓷𝓭 𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓢𝓮𝓪𝓿𝓮𝔂𝓼
Links in Order:
https://i.postimg.cc/pdPfndRX/31000-S...
https://i.postimg.cc/BbR58cQd/31000-N...
https://i.postimg.cc/XYfKJ5Mz/31000-C...
https://i.postimg.cc/fyW0RXbs/1000-Co...
https://i.postimg.cc/59pCkPP2/1000-Co...
https://i.postimg.cc/rpW4nMHB/1000-Ad...
My Brain Currently:
ok. so 30 seconds of thinking later. there will obvi be more shadowfog publishments so this is probably the 1st or 2nd saying hey don't fret. the later ones can include Militia advice and council however, the Seaveys like to keep power so they would take the claim on that initially. so basically, is it okay if I leave as is and make a publishment later on to address that?
also, this is kinda because it took be 3 flippin tries to make this thing work properly. and i'm pissed off cause an animation I made for it doesn't work. so 😡. I might have also neglected by homework for 4 hours to do this so :). the comics were worth the effort lol.
also, edvertisement ideas needed. my brain ran out of creativity when it his the last one and I just put vacant and called it a day XD
Mod
Hey, lovelies! I understand that there's a rift here in what's going on and the publications, but it's just a little road bump in a sea of absolute mountains, so let's take a minute and discuss. Alpha worked really hard on the news publications and they look so good. We have established that we'd like a change on a part of it, but we can also try not to make someone feel bad when they worked hard on something.
This is in no way me being upset or any of you being upset, okay? It's communication so we can all keep working on something we all love together without discontent. 🧡 I don't want to see a single "I'm sorry"—let's all just be kind and mindful of feelings while also acknowledging our own. If roles were reversed, anyone would feel attacked when there are two other people discussing something you did with critiques instead of complimenting it.
The militia is in charge of safety and would have the public's trust in official statements about the shadowfog for sure. The Seaveys are a trusted news source, however, and could absolutely stir confusion and unrest by insinuating that the shadowfog is not much of a concern, that everyone should make their own choices and form their own opinions. The public would not take kindly to a direct statement that everything is fine and safe, but they would hesitate to be as careful as the militia would warn them to be if the news outlet was like, "Maybe they're being dramatic, but life goes on as usual, right?" and made them think the militia is being overcautious.
Mod
That being said, Alpha, editing it slightly to be insinuation rather than a blanket statement would solve the problem while still sowing a seed of vague confusion throughout the city. And that provides good roleplay opportunities, someone from the militia and a Seavey meeting and having a certainly special encounter. 🫣
you're right. And I did react poorly and freak out, so for that, Alpha, I do apologize. it is a lovely publication, and I am sorry I didn’t acknowledge how great the rest of it is! I love the idea and everything. But I am concerned over the militia aspect because I really do think they need to be in charge of releasing actual safety statements are trusted by the people. The Haydens truly care about Voxthain and the people and would never lie to them about their safety, and they've built up a reputation in the militia of actually aiding citizens and helping people. And like, they probably release statements and sources of their own and alerts and such because that would fall under their jurisdiction and not the news outlets I believe, and I assume they’d be trusted on the safety situation more than the papers
Mod
Yep! And with that potential edit of sowing distrust and confusion, that still remains the case. A battle for power between purposeful somewhat biased/false news and a militia who wants to help. 👹👹👹
Members of Lux,
The updated paper has been uploaded as requested. After last nights mess however, I'm doubtful on the continuation of the paper. While I love the idea, meeting the demand and satisfying the members of this group is top priority. On it's first publication, the paper did not fulfill its priorities. . I often miss details and information and I have no editting reader on this project so details can be missed.
After some thought, the paper will continue for at least one more publication. The previous publication had no group input and no second mind. Perhaps that was the issue so please give me your opinions. I am one person, you are all sixteen more people words. I must assert that I did try. But, I'm also not a scholar. I'm an artist. Design is my thing, not writing. My time currently is also limited. While I did neglect my homework to complete the paper last night, that is not sustainable. From brainstorming through publication, the paper is a lot of work. I enjoy it and it's a fun and relaxing activity for me. But when people don't like my work, I don't want to continue it. Therefore, please tell me what you'd like to see, and give me details so there are no miscommunications.
If you believe I am overreacting right now, because some probably believe that, I want you to think of a moment you put your heart and soul for a month into an activity and received a negative result. That is currently my situation. It's very discouraging to have everyone excited for an idea your producing and when you give them the result, there is a wave of what feels like backlash and hatred. While it was most likely meant to be critique, the constant pushing of the singular issue in the paper was overwhelming. Now I hope you all no longer believe I'm overreacting.
Last night, I did see mention of specifics in the militia having their own publication. When the Seaveys were created, my initial idea for them was to control the media and it was morphed into the newspaper because how it fit the aesthetic. However, the initial ruling was that the Seaveys control everything that the Voxthain people see on paper. Some may see this as overpowered or godmoding, but in my eyes it is fair. After all, the Ellington-Wyvers control water can can shut it off at any time, the Thornes control hospitals (and while I know its not their intent) they could totally change the entire function and turn guests away making a power trip, the Calicos basically control money since the jewels and gems are often what is used as workers compensation, and the Haydens control the military meaning they could probably march into any estate and murder the entire family with trained killers if they felt like it. So, controlling a media output does not seem godmoding to me. With that being said, I did some thought and there were not clear relationships outlined between different nobilities and groups for the Seaveys when it came to media. So I'd like to make a proposal for that.
Elizabeth, when it comes to Hayden Militia and their good rapport with citizens, I wish to believe it is because they are active across the city at all times when at peace and under threat. The citizens can hear the news directly from officers through their own ears. When it comes to media publications, I want to have a special branch of the paper for the militia entitled, "Militia Updates". This will be a single page paper issued by the militia through the Seaveys. In my mind, this would most likely happen with a member of the Haydens or a militia head meet with a head of the Seaveys and a writer employed by the Seaveys. In this meeting, the Haydens say what the public needs to be informed of and it will be written immediately in that meeting. The Haydens can proofread the article in that meeting and approve it. Then that single page paper would be publish by the militia through the Seaveys. While this currently isn't an official function, it's my favorite compromise I've found so far.
When it comes to other noble families, there would be a similar process. If a disease outbreak happened, the Thornes could use the branch. If the water was contaminated or decreasing in supply, the Ellington-Wyvers could use the branch. If there were new laws or a public address needing made, the councillors could use the branch to get the public informed quickly. Liz, and everyone else with a family, what do you think?
Now, this branch does not effect politics and relations. You can still hate each other, but for the city to run, this must happen. That would be why this branch is open to all. (plus I still need to decide the Seavey's opinions on every noble family lol).
Rory did an amazing job prefacing my situation, and thank you Rory, but I wanted to say something myself. I believe its at this point common knowledge I'm in therapy. One of the main points of focus there is communication. Last night, I got quite upset and because I'm a reactive person, I decided to call it a night before I said anything I would regret. I also made that decision because I didn't want to say things to guilt-trip or manipulate any of you. If there were some parts in this message where I did try to manipulate, I apologize. This was drafted last night as I took time to cool off and edited in the morning to try and make it better. Back on topic, if there are any issues with the paper, please point them out in a PM to me from now on. This can ensure that I can make adjustments to improve the paper while also helping myself not feel overwhelmed. This eliminates the possibility of that. (Isabella, can you please add that if someone sees and error in a publication to PM me, not to post in the Request topic?).
Completely off topic, does anyone know if it is possible to make a video/animation appear on gr? I created something I wanted to do for the newspaper but it didn't work in testing so it was removed in the official post. However, I'm kinda upset because it was a lot of work to make and I personally really liked it. So, if anyone knows what I can do, please let me know!
To clear up anything else, I'm going to explain this first publication. Obviously, you have to test things to find what works. This is kinda my practice publication. It is very early in roleplay time, around the very initial appearance of the shadowfog. The 1000 celebration was really a place filler for an article and the Cosmic Origin is my credits to the artist in the Arts & Leisure section. In the future, all of this will be current with roleplay details. That is why I have this topic, for members to request what I make so I have actually relevant (because I know some of this wasn't) media. This publication was done so I didn't mess up a later more important publication. It was also for me to get a feel for html and everything else. I hope that clears things up on that note.
So, let's give this at least one more shot. What do you all want to see in issue 1001 of the paper?
Thank you,
𝓐𝓵𝓹𝓱𝓪
P.S. here's your updated link since GR is crappy: https://i.postimg.cc/jjPt73hJ/41000-S...
Hi!
I do think you should continue with the publication! Truly I do, I think it’s fun and needed and I do love how hard you worked on it! I’m sorry I didn’t say that earlier, but it’s true. It’s a wonderful idea and your work on it is great!
As to the militia though, I disagree with the proposal. The Seaveys control the news and gossip, but I am not keen on having the militia go under another noble family to get safety alerts out. It’s wrong that they’d have to go through the seaveys to get out a literal publication on safety, and so I really can’t agree to that proposal. I believe they need to be able to publish a safety alert and literal situations on security and all new safety laws and suggestions on their own, sorry. It undermines what my noble family is in charge of. I’m not saying they control the press, obviously not. But they have a right to deliver safety alerts on their own, just as the medics should deliver health matters on their own. I am physically uncomfortable having my families go through the seaveys on that, and they absolutely wouldn’t. I’m sorry, but for militia and health updates it just doesn’t make sense.
Okay then. When you say publications on safety, I want to understand what you are envisioning so there aren't any miscommunications. Perhaps because I don't understand what you want is why we can't find an agreement.
That also concerns me. Because if the Seavey's have no loyalty to other families via the people, then the relations will be much more a free for all. It may make things more interesting but it will also make it more confusing in my opinion.
like literal safety bulletins. Updates on researched shadowfog and murder situations and what people can do to stay safe. Anytime there’s an emergency, it makes no sense for them to go through the seaveys to tell people to remain inside and stay away. It literally is just a bulletin about safety updates and suggestions, and that’s the militia jurisdiction, same as any safety to health is the Thornes and it makes no logical sense for them to go through the seaveys to get their house’s announcements out when those announcements have nothing to do with the press. Seaveys are in charge of press, not literal safety announcements, and I feel like you’re trying to godmod what my characters’ houses bring to Voxthain and it kind of hurts that they’re not permitted to do what they need to for safety when they’re the experts on their given fields.
This has nothing to do with Voxthain news as a whole. It’s just security stuff and safety for the Hayden’s and medical for the Thornes. Like they should be allowed to post their own suggestions and safety tips on doors without going through another noble house. Seaveys aren’t in charge of that so I really would appreciate my characters being allowed to do their jobs without bowing to another noble house. It doesn’t make sense.
Alpha
I do think you should continue. The newspaper is a good idea, and I like it. Sorry about last night, I didn't mean to come across as rude. But when I step back and think about it, I realize that it prob did sound kind of mean. You did put a lot of work into it after all, and I don't remember if I even mentioned any of the positives. But, just know, that I do think the paper is a great idea, and you did do a great job with it.
Doing a practice run with an old paper also makes total sense, I just was worried you might be confused on the timeline is all.
As for the thing with the other noble houses, that makes sense. Of course, my house is in charge of masonry, so that isn't like, such a big deal. I will say if something was super serious, like if the shadowfog was closing in, or some such thing for the militia to be warning about, or like the water supply was poisoned, or there was some sort of epidemic, that would make like the front page.
@Elizabeth
I already stated and I will state again, I am in no way trying to undermine your characters' houses. Initially, you stated 'saftey publications' as opposed to 'safety bulletins'. The way you worded it made me believe you were going to create your own news chain for your house. Basically creating a Hayden Papers. If one house does it, all houses would, and my house would be useless. That is why I asked you to specify. From my new understanding, you are imagining posters and bulletins, not papers. My mind is envisioning it as one of those DND boards covered in ads or pasted on walls throughout the city. While they would be branded and logoed by the Haydens and militia, they are effective only for safety. Please correct me if this vision is wrong to avoid further confusion.
In the situation that what I just described is correct, then that is perfectly fine with me. I was imagining the Haydens creating a full paper with paragraphs and formatting and photos. With this I'm imaging like an advertisement just more fancy and professional since it's by a noble family. People obviously don't have to go through the Seaveys to print an ad/report. I apologize for that miscommunication.
Now, I do not appreciate the passive aggressiveness of your message. I am making no attempt to steal from your characters. I have already taken responsibility for a mistake and I'm trying to communicate with members to fix that mistake. Along with that, I'm trying to find a solution/compromise for something that hasn't been resolved. While it may be a long process to find a solution we both agree on, we both know it is necessary. We will get nowhere by taking shots at each other. I've already stated I'm a reactive person, I'm currently fighting that side of myself to remain civil so we can have a conversation rather than an argument. That being said, if you don't want to talk to me respectfully as though I'm a human being, then please take a break and come back to resolve this when you can. I've had enough negative interactions on this platform lately, and I'd prefer not to add more to the pile. I'm sorry that that was a bit aggressive but it's the calmest way I could find to word it.
@Bella
Thank you. I do understand the timeline. I'm glad that clears things up!
If you like the idea, then maybe I'll consider keeping that branch in the Seavey house. I do imagine it being front page headlines. That is my intent. I also saw them as emergency broadcasts with no other parts to the paper however that idea has been eliminated. Maybe for less serious matters, or houses like the Delacroix's, I imagine them announcing new building projects on the front page. idk lol. i'm rambling now
No, I was not trying to create another paper! I didn’t realize that’s what you thought and I’m sorry my wording confused you, admittedly I didn’t consider that so that’s on me, and I apologize. I should have been more aware different terms meant different things. Yeah! All I had in mine were like notices and one page suggestions and safety situations, not a whole paper at all! Because I also of course don’t want to undermine your house either.
And I apologize if it was passive aggressive. Like you, I am reactive. I am short tempered and these characters mean a lot to me. I was writing this at 6am bc I woke up having a panic attack so I was not in the best frame of mind and if that came out in that, I’m sorry. I was actually trying to be respectful so I guess I failed, and I’m sorry. I respect you, and I never meant for that to come across as rude. None of what I said was that disrespectful, and I’m sorry you felt that way, and if I worded it wrong, I apologize it was offensive. I truly felt how I felt and none of it was meant to talk to you as if you’re not human, so so I don’t quite get where that accusation came from. I was panicking and explaining my feelings, and yes maybe I was a little passive aggressive so I’m sorry, but I was frustrated since I felt as if you were not trying to understand my side at all. And if that came across as too aggressive I’m sorry. I did try and withhold my anger but I’ll try harder next time, I apologize. I realize written communication is hard, but I also ask that you have patience as well, given I’m not the only one to react, as you’ve said before. We are all human, and I am aware I react negatively when I worry my characters are in danger of being overlooked of prorated incorrectly, and I am trying to work on that. I’m sorry, and I truly think your papers are a lovely idea and that you’re a wonderful writer.
That makes much more sense. I'm perfectly fine with short notices as long as they contain only relevant information according to safety. Is it possible for the Voxthain Papers to be publishing the findings and progress of the investigation though? Of course, this is not me claiming this. There will be research papers, massive book, etc. The public most likely won't read all that though, so is the paper allowed to publish findings and such?
I apologize again. We both seem to have been a bit heated in the moment. I'm glad we are finding a compromise/solution. I'm a person who can hold grudge so last nights events combined with todays are what affected my decisions. I apologize for the attacks I made on you throughout this conversation. Thank you for being open with me about your feelings. Even though it's stressful, from my experience working through it is the most effective way to make sure the needs of everyone involved are met. I'm sorry about causing you more stress in the midst of your panic attack, that was absolutely not my intent. If I'd known your situation, I would have let you to wait until you had a clearer mind, and I probably should have done the same considering my situation. I'm sorry if I offended or hurt you in any way through this. I hope we can grow and move past this.
it would just be safety and anything like, security related yeah! So saying they have people who would escort citizens home when the murders start, etc! Um. Maybe? Can I think on that? Because I agree it needs to be published but since it’s the militia investigation, I think they should publish their own findings? Like in their smack on signpost bulletins just kinda give a quick detail of findings, and then maybe they probably have their own books on it yes, but if they give a detailed finding to the seaveys to publish, I think this would be a case of the militia hovering and staying in the room until the seaveys publish what they ask. Because they wouldn’t trust them not to change findings to mislead people, so I think they’d demand it be known in the findings that this was the militia, and they wouldn’t permit changes to their finding or wording even if they permitted the seaveys to publish it
Thank you. And yeah, we did. So am I! You’re welcome, and I am sorry it came across as rude. I too hold grudges and yesterday was also particularly rough for me before this so I think everything combined and I lost control of my emotions. Not an excuse and I’m working on it, I’m sorry. And thank you for apologies as well, I appreciate them. Truly. And yes, absolutely. It’s okay. Again, I appreciate your apologies and that we both are able to admit we have a lot going on and that neither of us was in a clear mind. So I’m sorry as well, and thank you for your apologies again. Me too
This is short. I have period switch to band lol. So sorry.
My initial idea was something specifically like that. It was the one with the meetings and stuff. They talk, the draft is read, and then sent to printing. It's a pretty simple process. The suspicion of the Hayden's would be reasonable lol, and it would just cause more drama. When Hayden's publish their data, it seems more reasonable for them to do massive books and studies and stuff. If someone sees an update on the way, (if I was an oc) I'd expect it to be about either safety or the solution to the problem found.
Thank you. We both sound like broken records lmao. But yeah, perfectly fine. Glad we cleared it up. Sorry and thank you.
all good, I hope band goes well!!
I know! I just still like the idea of a public safety bulletin (not a full blown paper, I promise), that the haydens don't go through anyone to get up, also because it would waste time they need to give people awareness of situations and keep them safe. but for the published findings, maybe they take it to the seaveys and hover, but we'll see, can I think on that? bc I think they'd also really just throw it up in the bulletin to be honest, like, "more bodies found in x locations, we're ramping up our guards outside, etc". so Im unsure if theyd go through the papers at all for that
You're welcome! lol we do. and me too, and no worries and thank you! you're welcome
just jumping in to say that even if updates do appear on bulletins, i think they would also appear in the paper. because, well, it's a newspaper, and that would def be news. like, the news reports these sorts of things. if anything pertaining to those things gets cut out, it's essentially just gossip, right?
possibly yeah! But I think whatever the militia gives the seaveys would be closely watched bc they don’t trust them. And would be on a bulletin bc it’s like. their job, keeping ppl safe
Band was fine ig. The music is meh lol. And it's a terrible director cause ours is on paternity leave.
So, the bulletin for the Haydens is cool with me. I should have said that. I would just prefer it stays strictly to safety. That can obviously be a multitude of things, for example warnings on where not to go, etc etc. The research is not only a militia effort, it is effort by militia and councillors and beyond. So, the militia has no claim on it. The Seaveys can get it from a multitude of sources. The militia can be careful with their released research, but that would also be released to public via textbooks etc. Moving to the gossip portion of the newspaper, I have yet to handle any details with that lol. I'm formatting on my end for relationships and stuff so yeah.
Random question, can someone explain the Calicos family to me? Like their ideals and morals and stuff? I have yet to figure it out lol.
oh yikes that's rough, I'm sorry!
Okay thanks! No worries. Yes! Safety and security, because that's their job, but that does include investigations into the murders since, well, that is a risk to the people, and the militia has active investigators on the case, like elliot and ivorri. no, the shadowfog research is definitely councillors as well, sorry that was my bad, I meant more the murder aspect of it all is like, the militia's claim. not so much the shadowfog research, that is definitely a group effort. that's okay, I say take as much time as you need.
sure! okay, so they're one of the wealthiest families bc they trade in gems, jewels, jewelry, and valuables. they are gold and red as a color, and they're also a chaotic mess. the patriarch is a somewhat-drunk ill-tempered man who cheats on his wife, but he does love her in his own way, and he knows he's a mess. the matriarch is a sweetheart, with a good soul, and together they have a few kids: Alianna, Isley, Aiden. Alexander is the patriarch's son with the sister of his wife bc he cheated on her, and Artemisia is the patriarch's daughter with a servant bc, again, he's a womanizer. he also has some affairs with men
a lot of his issues come from unresolved trauma, and he has no excuse, but that's what happened since his sister died via shadowfog when she went on a trip after graduating cogsworks.
calicos are insanely wealthy, classist, and generally, kind of mean. eadric, the patriarch, was once a councillor but stepped down because he truly was a mess, and his eldest daughter alianna is a sadistic terror, but her father didn't believe in anything she did wrong bc his love blinded him. but she was awful--a bully, sadistic, manipulative, greedy, classist, and homophobic. when she didnt win a seat in council she ran away like a brat
eadric's other sister esmeralda married a delcaroix so the families are related
the calicos used to also be allies with the haydens, but katarina, the matriarch, began to despise eadric for his twisted beliefs and drew apart from him, but she too was close to his sister that died. her death messed their relationship up more, but now, the two families are not allies as much anymore bc the haydens dislike the classism of the calicos, and alianna was...a huge issue, to say the least. eadrics father and katarinas mother had wanted them to marry, but they didnt love each other that way
and then elara, the matriarch, has a messed up family as well, most are dead or something, i believe, and she loves her husband despite his...issues. and eadric would never harm her, he just has a problem with cheating on her bc he doesnt want to burden her with his issues or seem weak, and bc he does have problems
but yeah morals are...no morals. they are not the best people aside from elara and artemisia honestly. eadric tries sometimes, alianna is a murderer who ran off, isley is spoiled, alexander has an attitude, aiden is not created yet lol. basically, old, wealthy, messy family who likes power and such
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I am very happy and proud to see that you guys managed to work it out and communicate as well as you all have. I appreciate it deeply and I won't give my two cents because I agree with everyone's points and it'd just be reiterating what's already been said. What I will say is that conflict between families and characters need not transfer to conflict between members. I know we all love our contributions to this group, the militia and the papers and the ideas we have for those. We are all allowed to state if something doesn't fit that idea you have and have productive, kind conversations to fix it. Having opinions on things that affect the whole group is fine but we need to be more understanding.
We're all communicating through text. That's a feat on its own without the context of that communication being about creative works. Words will be misconstrued and meanings confused, but we have to remember that behind the screen is someone just enjoying their community and writing and characters. Nobody is out to take or remove power from anyone else's place in the group or their characters. <3 I'm proud of the beautiful communication I just read, guys, seriously.
Alpha, don't you dare stop publications. We all truly adore them and want them around, it was just communication on a change that fell through. You did nothing wrong. Elizabeth, Bella, and I could have communicated what change we wanted a lot better and I trust all three of us can handle that better next time. 🧡🧡🧡
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alpha, i just want to come in and say that the newspaper is absolutely gorgeous and thank you for putting in the time and effort to make it. i do actually have a request for the paper: is there any way you could also post a transcript of what is on the newspaper? my vision is very not good and i think my old man eyes would like to have a transcript so i can make sure that i get the whole effect of the paper.
as for the other issue here, thank you rory for being here and awake to manage the situation. i hope things are now worked out but i am not happy to have learned about what went down in here last night. i need everyone in this group to take a deep breath and remember that the actions and opinions of characters and families within the group are not representative of the feelings and opinions of the actual real people and there will be conflict between the characters, but that should never become conflict between the members.
i did not see the original paper or conflict, but from what i can piece together, the original paper was a compelling piece of propaganda manufactured by the seavey family to make it seem like everything is okay in the world even though we the real life people know that this is not the case. and yes, it does seem that the paper made claims about the militia in a way that was untrue and conniving, but isn't that realistic to how actual news works? and doesn't that fit in with what alpha initially proposed for the paper? i think it could have been very interesting to see a warring news situation in voxthain through the seavey newspaper and responding retractions/safety announcements from the militia in the same bulletin. like, for example, an initial paper stating that "there is no shadowfog and even our own militia has deemed the outside world as safe!" and then a safety posting directly from the militia stating: "WARNING: the shadowfog is very dangerous and a very real threat to voxthain. we advise all citizens of voxthain to be on guard when leaving the city due to this extreme threat." and then in a later newspaper, an opinion piece or something talking about how, well actually we still don't believe in the shadowfog and there could have been this fun back and forth that worked into so many different roleplays, weaving conflict between the militia and the newspaper, as well as leading to the passing statements of citizens about the state of the press in voxthain.
regardless, what is going to need to happen from here on out is that we are all going to be kinder about the works of art and fiction that are posted in this group, whether or not you personally agree with the politics of a character's decision. we can talk about including a safety statement in each paper from the militia or giving them their own ways to post announcements. maybe noble families can pay to have additions to the paper if anyone wants that. that's why the requests topic is here. i trust you all to figure something out.
alpha, please don't think that you have to stop making the newspaper. i really love what you've created, and i hope that you still feel like this is a welcoming space to share your creations. of course, i would prefer that you have a sustainable system for working on this that does not take away from real world responsibilities like homework, and i would never want this to become just another stressor for you. i am a fan of what you have created, and im sure the group at large is just as excited as me to see a newspaper posted.
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also forgot to say that i love the ads so much, those are so good
THE NEWSPAPERS LOOK SO GOOD
that Earth comic got me doubling over with laughter
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wait i got this, terrifying rory picture incoming
me when the newspapers 😍😍😍
FRFR
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celebrate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! party for the thousandth paper!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it’s party o’clock!
Gosh so much has happened. Let's see how quick I can get through this lol. it's 5:27
@Elizabeth
Yeah, that makes sense. And all good. The councillors will get more involved, especially my girl, Sapphira, after her father gets murdered. Just a heads up. That'll be happening eventually when Rory gets back to me.
Got it. Thank you so much! I'll fully read that when I have time to actually detail things. But that is so helpful to have it all in one place! Thanks for taking the time to do that!
Anyways, to confirm and make it official, the militia will be posting bulletins on boards and walls across Voxthain concerning the murders? They contain anything safety related. (will they contain research like "we noticed that more people die on this path at night. heres a crap ton of numbers about it: ######" or will it just be "recommended to avoid this path at night"?)
For formalities (because it seems the noble wing of the newspaper is being considered ), would the Haydens use it? Or any of your families since you have multiple?
@Rory
I'm also glad to have things cleared up. Things are much calmer now. I might need to take a breather over a few days to like reset but life is good now XD
It's definitely so annoying. It's harder to express ideas too. So glad we eventually got through it though. Or ish-through it by now.
The paper will stay open. Don't worry.
@Isabella
Thank you so much! I love it too!
Creating a transcript shall be added to my list of to-dos. I'll figure out formatting and stuff on that later but it'll get done eventually.
The paper will stay open. And I do it instead of my homework cause the paper is more fun lol. Probably shouldn't and might not as much in the future cause your right, I need a healthy balance, but we'll get there eventually.
@all (basically no longer specifically addressing a single person)
Isabella wrote: "also forgot to say that i love the ads so much, those are so good"
The ads were so fun to make lol. I ran out of ideas but those I loved. Like tiny projects in themselves. If anyone wants to just poof a shop or something into existence it would be greatly appreciated.
✧ aelin - 东海龙王之女 ࿐࿔ wrote: "THE NEWSPAPERS LOOK SO GOOD
that Earth comic got me doubling over with laughter"
idk why but the comics are my favorite part. like better then the headlines lmao. I found a series of I think 40 and i'm in love. plus, I figured the Lux moon and space theme would go together perfect!
Rory wrote: "wait i got this, terrifying rory picture incoming
me when the newspapers 😍😍😍
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omg XD I love ya'll so much. I find it comedic how bland that stock image is too lol, I should have looked for a better one
ANND TIME. 5:45. wait no 5:46. 19 minutes. not terrible lol. now time for food :)
pretty much, yeah. Like stats of increasing crimes or murders and posting safe locations for people or advisories about what roads to avoid and advertising that they’re here to help people get home safely if they need an escort, or like, if there’s a spike in crime they’d say something about avoiding that area and that they’re looking into it and like. “If you see something contact XXX” or something like that, or “investigation status: XXX” “bodies found in X area, avoid this location” or “we recommend staying inside after dark” etc
And yeah you’re welcome! Lmk if you have more questions about the nobles I have!
@all
For those who are interested, I have finished the transcription of the three written articles. It is now posted in the publications beneath the paper!
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thank you!!!! <3 you're the bomb dot com
no problem!! if anything else is necessary let me know!
I appear to ask if there is anything major RP related that I should know about. while I have a set of eyes, they tend to overlook crap cause i'm usually just glancing. anyone got any juicy tidbits for a paper article?
and if you wanna make something up, go ahead! I need crap for the local news articles as well and breaking news (which I have drafts for) so just be creative or what not!
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this isn't current events (all of my rps are either small beans or runalithe/asterath) but you could put in an ad for the weekly farmers market on saturday mornings in the clocktower square
not that I’m aware of yet. Cal’s about to go get herself captured so missing councillor eventually
the farmers market shall receive an ad!
I have that for front page once it happens. I'll just need to figure out what the heck to say lmao. you got any suggestions of preferences (I will of course change to match Seavey tone but like inspiration).
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if you need a big headline for this one, you are more than welcome to make something crazy up that the club serpentine leaders did. they're both very brutal and cruel (and created by me and rory) and i know we're both cool with them having more street cred
✧Bella✧ wrote: "yeah, everything's eventually lol"it’s soon though
Isabella wrote: "if you need a big headline for this one, you are more than welcome to make something crazy up that the club serpentine leaders did. they're both very brutal and cruel (and created by me and rory) a..."that would be more Asterath news so idk...
so, just coming up with this off the top of my head, but it actually makes sense?anyway, the delacroixs are funding like a building or addition to Cogworks or a local library or mursesm or smth, in honor of their late Head of House, Elliot Oliver Delacroix II.
ohh! now that sounds like good news! if you pick a specific I can make that a good page in the paper.
also for that, would they like be the ones to hire the people who build the buildings cause masonry? just clarification lol
also, fyi as for what I have for Delacroix-Seavey family relationship the two like each other decently. The Seaveys tend to cover up Delacroix messes to a pretty nice extent. The Delacroix's would have noticed this and probably taken a liking to not having nasty rumors in the press about them. Obvi things would get out like Elliot running away but there were no titled about the drama, just announcements on the advancements in the matter. If any of that makes sense lol.
