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WHAT ARE YOU READING AND WHY!!
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not at all Amy! thanks
Rick wrote: "Amy wrote: "I am reading "Come Unto These Yellow Sands: Four Radio Plays" by Angela Carter...because the title play is about Richard Dadd, and I have a bit of an odd fascination with him. (This wa..."Umm... I even have a Richard Dadd (in fiction) bookshelf. (!)
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for those unfamiliar with Richard Dadd- a facinating man
Richard Dadd (1 August 1817 – 7 January 1886) was an English painter of the Victorian era, noted for his depictions of fairies and other supernatural subjects, Orientalist scenes, and enigmatic genre scenes, rendered with obsessively minuscule detail. Most of the works for which he is best known were created while he was incarcerated in a psychiatric hospital.
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1 Life and work
2 Legacy
3 Notes
4 References
5 See also
6 External links
[edit:] Life and work
Dadd was born at Chatham, Medway in Kent, England, the son of a chemist. His aptitude for drawing was evident at an early age, leading to his admission to the Royal Academy of Arts at the age of 20. With William Powell Frith, Augustus Egg, Henry O'Neil and others, he founded The Clique, of which he was generally considered the leading talent.[1:]
In July 1842, Sir Thomas Phillips, the former mayor of Newport, chose Dadd to accompany him as his draftsman on an expedition through Europe to Greece, Turkey, Palestine and finally Egypt. In November of that year they spent a gruelling two weeks in Palestine, passing from Jerusalem to Jordan and returning across the Engaddi wilderness. Toward the end of December, while travelling up the Nile by boat, Dadd underwent a dramatic personality change, becoming delusional and increasingly violent, and believing himself to be under the influence of the Egyptian god Osiris. His condition was initially thought to be sunstroke.
On his return in the spring of 1843, he was diagnosed to be of unsound mind and was taken by his family to recuperate in the countryside village of Cobham, Kent. In August of that year, having become convinced that his father was the Devil in disguise, Dadd killed him with a knife and fled for France. En route to Paris Dadd attempted to kill another tourist with a razor, but was overpowered and was arrested by the police. Dadd confessed to the killing of his father and was returned to England, where he was committed to the criminal department of Bethlem psychiatric hospital (also known as Bedlam). Here and subsequently at the newly created Broadmoor, Dadd was cared for (and encouraged to continue painting) by the likes of Drs William Wood and Sir W. Charles Hood, in an enlightened manner.
Which condition he suffered from is unclear, but it is usually understood to be a form of paranoid schizophrenia.[2:] He appears to have been genetically predisposed to mental illness; two of his siblings were similarly afflicted, while a third had "a private attendant" for unknown reasons.[3:]
The Fairy Feller's Master-Stroke by Richard Dadd, oil on canvas, 67cm x 52.5cm, 1855-64, Tate Gallery, London, United KingdomIn the hospital he was allowed to continue to paint and it was here that many of his masterpieces were created, including his most celebrated painting, The Fairy Feller's Master-Stroke, which he worked on between 1855 and 1864. Also dating from the 1850s are the thirty-three watercolour drawings titled Sketches to Illustrate the Passions, which include Grief or Sorrow, Love, and Jealousy, as well as Agony-Raving Madness and Murder. Like most of his works these are executed on a small scale and feature protagonists whose eyes are fixed in a peculiar, unfocused stare. Dadd also produced many shipping scenes and landscapes during his incarceration, such as the ethereal 1861 watercolour Port Stragglin. These are executed with a miniaturist's eye for detail which belie the fact that they are products of imagination and memory.
After 20 years at Bethlem, in July 1864, perhaps because Bedlam was overcrowded, Dadd was moved to a new lunatic asylum at Broadmoor, outside London. Here he remained, painting constantly and receiving infrequent visitors until 7 January 1886, when he died, "from an extensive disease of the lungs."
[edit:] Legacy
The Fairy Feller's Master-Stroke inspired a song of the same name by the British rock band Queen. The painting also is a plot element in The Witches of Chiswick by Robert Rankin. The Wee Free Men, a novel by Terry Pratchett, edited in 2003, was in a central part inspired by it as well.
The British fantasy writer Angela Carter wrote Come unto these Yellow Sands, a radio-play based on Dadd's life.
The British composer Oliver Knussen considered naming his piece Flourish with Fireworks after The Fairy Feller's Master-Stroke, as its composition owes a lot to the small, exquisite, quirky details in the painting and contains a similar attempted correlation of large and small scale.
English writer Neil Gaiman includes a reference to Dadd himself in his Sandman comic-book series.
Canadian author R.J. Anderson acknowledges Dadd as the basis of her fictional painter Alfred Wrenfield, who figures prominently in her young adult fantasy novel Knife (Faery Rebels: Spell Hunter in the USA).[4:]
In 1987 a long-lost watercolour by Dadd, The Artist's Halt in the Desert, was discovered by Peter Nahum on the BBC TV programme Antiques Roadshow. Made while the artist was incarcerated, it is based on sketches made during his tour of the Middle East, and shows his party encamped by the Dead Sea, with Dadd at the far right. [5:] It was later sold for £100,000 to the British Museum.
I guess I need to add "The Witches of Chiswick" to my list. (It's already on my TBR list/pile/bookshelf).Good thing; because I like Robert Rankin, too!
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Good thing; because I like Robert Rankin, too!"
FACINATING LIFE STORY HUH!
I just finished, MEN WHO STARE AT GOATS. It was ok. Interesting premise, not the greatest writing. I've heard the movie sucks. I am getting ready to start BEAT THE REAPER. Reading light over the holidays!!! I usually stick with the classics. Read quite a bit of Poe over October,and November. It's the year of his 200th birthday. Then, I read A CHRISTMAS CAROL again. I try to read it each year at Christmas.
Currently reading Dean Koontz - 'Your heart Belongs To Me' - It's quite good and I have read Dean Koontz before, also about to start 'The Girl who Kicked the Hornets Nest' by Stieg Larsson, and 'The Theif' by Megan Whalen Turner.
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Stieg Larson was a facinating man- here is some info I found on him Claire.
Larsson was initially a political activist for the Kommunistiska Arbetareförbundet (Communist Workers League), a photographer, and one of Sweden's leading science fiction fans. In politics he was the editor of the Swedish Trotskyist journal Fjärde internationalen. He also wrote regularly for the weekly Internationalen. As a science fiction fan, he was co-editor or editor of several fanzines, including Sfären, Fijagh! and others; in 1978-1979 he was president of the largest Swedish science fiction fan club, Skandinavisk Förening för Science Fiction (SFSF). He worked as a graphic designer at the largest Swedish news agency, Tidningarnas Telegrambyrå (TT) between 1977 and 1999.[2:]
Larsson's political convictions, as well as his journalistic experiences, led him to found the Swedish Expo Foundation, similar to the British Searchlight Foundation, established to "counteract the growth of the extreme right and the white power-culture in schools and among young people."[3:] he also became the editor of the foundation's magazine, Expo. Larsson quickly became instrumental in documenting and exposing Swedish extreme right and racist organizations; he was an influential debater and lecturer on the subject, reportedly living for years under death threats from his political enemies.[4:]
[edit:] Death
Larsson died in Stockholm at the age of 50 of a massive heart attack. Rumours that his death was in some way suspicious, because of death threats received as editor of Expo, have been denied.[5:]
In May 2008 it was announced that Larsson's 1977 will, found soon after his death, declared his wish to leave his assets to the Umeå branch of the Communist Workers League (now the Socialist Party). As the will was unwitnessed, it was not valid under Swedish law, with the result that all of Larsson's estate, including future royalties from book sales, went to his father and brother.[6:][7:] His long term partner Eva Gabrielsson,[8:] who found his will, has no legal right to the inheritance, sparking controversy and exposing what many media considered a flaw in Swedish inheritance legislation.[citation needed:] They never married because Swedish Law required married couples to make their addresses publicly available; marrying would have been a security risk.[9:] At the 2009 Galaxy Book Awards, Larsson won the award for The Books Direct Crime Thriller of The Year, for The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
[edit:] The novelist
At his death, Larsson left the manuscripts of three completed but unpublished novels in a series. He wrote them for his own pleasure after returning home from his job in the evening, making no attempt to get them published until shortly before his death. The first of these novels was published in Sweden in 2005 as Män som hatar kvinnor ("Men who hate women"), published in English as The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. It was awarded the prestigious Glass Key award as the best Nordic crime novel in 2005. His second novel, Flickan som lekte med elden (The Girl Who Played with Fire), received the Best Swedish Crime Novel Award in 2006. He also left the unfinished manuscript of the fourth novel, and synopses of the fifth and sixth in the series, which was intended to contain an eventual total of ten books.
The primary characters in the Millennium Trilogy series are Lisbeth Salander and Mikael Blomkvist. Lisbeth is an intelligent, eccentric woman in her 20s with a photographic memory whose social skills are rather poor. Blomkvist is an investigative journalist, a celebrity in his own right.
A television series based on the three completed books is in production by Yellow Bird Films of Ystad. Each book will be covered in two episodes (making a total of six 90-minute episodes). The first two episodes were released as a motion picture in February 2009, while the subsequent episodes will be released directly on DVD in December 2009. The series will be broadcast on Swedish television in 2010.[10:]
[edit:] Influences
Through his written works as well as to the press, Larsson openly admitted that a significant amount of his literary influences come in the form of American and British crime/detective fiction authors. In his work, he makes a habit of inserting the names of some of his favourites within the text - sometimes by making his characters read the books of his own influences. Topping the list are Sara Paretsky, Agatha Christie, Val McDermid, Dorothy Sayers and Enid Blyton.[11:] However, one of the strongest influences originates from his own country - Pippi Longstocking by Sweden's much-loved children's author, Astrid Lindgren. Larsson explained that one of his main recurring characters in the Millennium series, Lisbeth Salander, is actually based on Pippi Longstocking and in his books is reimagined as a grown up version of her.[12:]
That's amazing Rick. I am so sad that Stieg Larsson is dead, as I could see him becoming one of my favourite authors. WOW I cannot believe it was meant to be a ten book set!!! Incredible!
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I thought you would be interested in his story, Claire
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let me know what you think of the Odd Thomas book as Koonze wrote several- sadie
I am currently reading The Graveyard Book by Neil Gaiman. I am enjoying it very much. It is one of the books for one of the groups I moderate in January.
I'm going back to enjoy some epic fantasy war. Glen Cook most recent series starting with The Tyranny of the Night Book One of the Instrumentalities of the Night which I've finished so on to the second Lord of the Silent Kingdom.
In between death and war I stopped to read a short but sweet book by my all time favorite Peter S. Beagle. His work is probably too sentimental for those who like dark plots but he revisits his interest in death in A Dance for Emilia. As a cat lover and a believer in reincarnation I loved it.
I've been reading Ernest Hemingway's book THE GARDEN OF EDEN,and some of his short stories. Blame Kirk Curnutt!!! Lol! Check out my review for Kirk's book.....Gary gave to:
Coffee with Hemingway (Coffee with...Series)
by Kirk Curnutt (Goodreads author)
my rating: 5 Stars
edit my review
shelf: read
read in December, 2009
Gary said: " "Here's a secret for you-All the symbolism that people talk about is shit. I used to get letters from students, Dear Mr. Hemingstein, My English teacher says the sea in your book about it and that old man is really amniotic fluid.Could you confirm or deny?"
Now doesn't that sound like a quote from Old Papa himself??? Well..... maybe..... but........ drum roll please......... it's fictional, but sure sounds like the man, doesn't it? There's more juicy fun to be had. All you gotta do it read this book. This book is a series of interviews from an unknown interviewer,and how Papa might have answered such questions. I swear I had to look at the cover numerous times to remind myself that this was Kirk writing these things,and not the master himself. Kirk was "a master" in how he made me feel like I was in a studio audience listening to Hemingway being interviewed,and how he would answer, with his caustic sarcastic remarks,and him saying all of this stuff people say about him is shit. I was totally blown away at how Kirk did such a convincing dialogue of being Hemingway himself!! One of my dreams would be to meet the man himself, Papa, and after reading this book I feel like I have truly,and finally met my idol!! All I can say is.... Wow, Kirk!
Anyone who is a fan of any of Hemingway's books or short stories would be in for a real treat in reading this book. Anyone who says they would never read Hemingway, should have an open mind & experience this little coffee table book,! They might actually run out afterwards to get copies of things to read by Hemingway. I have read much by Hemingway,and after getting a copy of Kirk's book, and reading it for myself, I ran to the nearest bookstore to pick up THE GARDEN OF EDEN & ISLANDS IN THE STREAM. I've also reread some of his short stories recently. Kirk is so believable as Hemingway, that you'll yearn to experience Hemingway's writings for yourself. Damn!! what a most favorable, roaring good time compliment to give to the genius of this book and to the writer who created it !
Bravo, Kirk, Bravo. I highly recommend this book
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Gary gave to:
Coffee with Hemingwa..."
Gary- excellant review- so very well written!
Well, thank you very much , rick. Find the review and vote for it that you liked it,and cut and paste your comment to the review. I'd greatly appreciate that!Happy New Year! It is blindly cold here! 9 degrees. I went outside to see the "blue moon",and had to run in , it's so blasted cold!
Thanks again!
Regarding the stuff about symbolism, Gary:When I was in tenth grade we studied Romeo and Juliet, and one of the most frustrating things was the discussions about symbolism. Each of several teachers would challenge their students to interpret the symbolic meaning of this or that narrative detail, and we always seemed to get them wrong - we compared notes among classes, and all the teachers were coming up with the same interpretations, so we figured there must be some way to understand the symbolism that none of us kids could figure out. It was pretty frustrating and demoralizing. Then one day I was browsing through a catalog of teachers' supplies my mother, who taught first grade, had gotten in the mail - and I came across the Romeo and Juliet kit, complete with symbolic interpretations in the teacher's edition. I was on the school newspaper, so I wrote a sarcastic expose and got in some hot water.
Symbolism in the creative arts is a time-honored --and when rightly used, very useful-- device; but one thing some teachers and critics (and sometimes some writers) forget is that the whole function of symbols is to communicate meaning non-verbally, in ways that everybody can easily recognize because the meaning of the symbol is commonly, or at least widely, understood in that culture. A "symbol" that's not widely understood, and that's in fact so obscure that you have to have a kit to decode it, would lose something kind of crucial. :-) In those cases, we might suspect either that, for some reason, the writer didn't want the readers to understand him/her, or was just really lousy at communicating; or that (more likely) someone's imagining symbolism where it doesn't exist.
Thank you Werner for your comment you have just resolved years of frustration for me! I was the one in the back of my A.P. English class (I won't mention how many years ago) slamming my head on my desk when symbolism got to the point that one girl was trying to say that Pride and Prejudice actually has the exact same amount of letters in each word as Elizabeth and Darcy. Really?! Did Jane Austen sit around trying to match a title to the names of her characters or vice versa?! (She was the same girl that asked right before the A.P. test "What if I run out of paper?")
Sadie, thanks for sharing that! LOL! Your former AP English classmate probably went on to become a revered literary critic --maybe she even helped write that kit for decoding Romeo and Juliet. :-)
Well,I am going to start my tea with Eco's Faucoults Pendulum and biscuit with Pamuk's White Castle.
Regards.
I'm new to the group and thanks Rick for inviting me. I'm currently reading An Echo In The Bone by Diana Gabaldon. 7th novel in The Outlander Series. Her blend of history, romance and time travel is fascinating. I'm a big history buff and so to weave it into a romantic time travel is heaven to me.
I'm wrapping up reading Fortune's Warriors by James Davis - it's an excellent analysis of the various categories of so-called soldiers of fortune ranging from VIP bodyguards to security consultants for governments or corporations to out-and-out mercenaries. It's not the kind of sensationalist work that so many books on this subject become. Rather, it's a systematic study of the subject and of the legal and ethical issues it involves. It's dated, having been written about ten years ago, but most of the information is still applicable. Fortune's Warriors Private Armies and the New World Order
James wrote: "Regarding the stuff about symbolism, Gary:When I was in tenth grade we studied Romeo and Juliet, and one of the most frustrating things was the discussions about symbolism. Each of several teacher..."
James this totally cracked me up. I'd love to read you expose'. I admire your guts to write that,and would enjoy reading it.Do you still have it somewhere???
My son and I both wrote for the school newspaper in high school,and both of us got into "hot water" for having an opinion,and not being afraid to state it.Consquently , we were loved by the student body, because they agreed with us,and admired us for being "brave" enough to speak out.
I know teachers use "kits" or lesson plans for this stuff,but I always thought part of the charm of symbolism was people's different perspectives,and how some things hit someone totally different then others. If I was a Prof, I'd allow people to discuss some of the students perspectives,and never tell them how wrong they are, and maybe and only maybe then, bring out some established ideas only to invoke more thought,and more discussion if the discussion was dragging. I'd certainly allow for that. However,in this day and age of "state mandated testing", and the federal govt's control of education, grabbed firmly by their balls, I am sure many teachers, myself included, are nervous about not bringing out the ideas stated in the "kit", in fear of accountability of what is being taught. NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND,and such has ruined spontaneous discussions,and such,and creativity is being left behind! We as a society should be raising hell,and throw politics out of the whole picture. Teachers are terrified for their jobs,and also terrified they aren't following their curriculum. Who is suffering the most in this??? You guessed it...students!
I am in a bookclub,and we discuss symbolism a lot,and we end up disagreeing with each other, but I love all the multifacted ideas people come up with, or they will say I never thought about it that way.Anyway, don't give the teachers too much grief. They are in many cases trying desperately to protect their jobs. My advice..... find another profession then teaching. It used to be great fun, but not so much anymore.
I couldn't agree more with your comments about education Gary - and I'm from the UK. Exactly the same - skills have replaced understanding, independent thought is not a quality to be fostered, and political interference is to be seen everywhere.
Alas, I don't still have a copy of that piece - this was 35 or so years ago, and what with the many moves during 20 years in the military I lost track of a lot of things I wish I still had.I couldn't agree more about the problems teachers face today; they are micromanaged to a degree that sucks a lot of the fulfillment out of their profession, and shortchanges the students. From the time public education started, there was a tug of war over its purpose and function, between those who believed education's role is to produce well-rounded citizens with critical thinking skills and a solid grasp of civics on the one hand, and those who wanted education to simply produce pliable and useful employees with the basic skills to operate a cash register. With the rise to dominance of corporate power in the world today, the latter group has won that fight. The rigid insistence on one set of correct interpretations of things that actually have a lot of ambiguity is part of that abandonment of critical thinking in education, I believe.
I intended to make teaching my second career after the military, and went back to school nights and weekends and got a degree in education to that end. In the process, though, I saw that there are a lot of kids who need more help than the teacher can give them, since the teacher is responsible for the whole class. So I realized I'd rather be the one to whom those students are handed off for more intensive help, and did another degree, this time in counseling psychology, and when I retired from the service I just stepped straight into a job as a therapist.
I'm about 75% of the way through a Cert Ed course to become a teacher of adult literacy (Skills for life). There's that word 'skills' again. On occasions, I get to run a class where the learners can create and imagine. Last year, a group wrote a ten-minute film script, with some input from me. It was great. This year, another group has collaborated on a short story. They loved it. But then it's back to scanning techniques, summarizing and the use of the apostrophe. Need to know stuff, I agree, but most of the course is aimed at passing an exam - not at instilling a love of reading and the use of language.
Sad.
Anyway, rant over. Sorry about that.
A parallel process has been going on in the field of psychotherapy, driven by managed care - instead of framing things in terms of mental/emotional health or illness, it has morphed into "behavioral health" - essentially, the process of therapy has shifted from helping people heal to suppressing their overt symptoms; they can be totally miserable and that's fine with the insurance companies as long as they aren't opening their veins on the subway or the equivalent.
I am reading George R.R. Martin's "A Game Of Thrones". My favorite gendre of writing is historical novels or technical/spy type novels like "Acts Of War" by Tom Clancy. Fantasy is one of the few styles of writing I have not ventured into. Typically, if a novel does not capture my interest in about 30 pages in some way, I am unlikely to read it in it's entirity. Fortunately, there have been few. This novel captured my interest in only ten pages. I am excited to be invited to join this group.
"Vile Bodies" by Evelyn Waugh because it was chosen as January's book club selection on Bright Young Things. I'm loving it.
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Rob wrote: "Brian wrote: "I am reading George R.R. Martin's "A Game Of Thrones". My favorite gendre of writing is historical novels or technical/spy type novels like "Acts Of War" by Tom Clancy. Fantasy is one..."Fevre Dream is really good.
I would like to add my opinion along with Paul's thoughts on teaching. Currently and for quite sometime in Ontario, teachers are told exactly what they can and can not teach in our schools. I have talked to many of my former teachers and they are very disturbed with this authoratative approach. These decisions are very detremental in important aspects such as creativity, imagination and students unique abilities. I believe very much in Einstien's many dissertations regarding the freedom of choice and will. When he became professor at Harvard in the late 1940's, early 1950's, he acted upon his beliefs. His students were encouraged to take courses that interested them. He also personally helped many brilliant minds of that era. I certainly hope this trend does not continue for many great minds will end up in the wastelands!
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In South Florida, there was recently a very big fracas over a new- much more micromanaged teaching method-both parents and teachers revolted and the were victorious-so far- yet a year was wasted "re-training" the teachers to teach "The Administrations" way- as a Substitute Teacher- I was amazed at the anger and stress level I saw in the teachers while this all played out. They resented having preset lesson plans, many standardized tests (weekly) and felt they were no longer teachers since they could not teach to each individual student's needs- but rather "All be on the same Page"
I was lucky enough, back in the 1970s, to attend a high school with an experimental scheduling system and curriculum. Classes ran for different lengths based on the material, rather than having a rigid "period" structure; for example, lab courses requiring time to set up and clean up experiments might meet only a couple of days a week but run for 90 minutes to two hours, while math classes where "information saturation" was a factor met daily but only for 45 minutes. It was an open campus so we could come and go as we chose, and attendance was treated as less important than getting the work done and how we scored on exams. Teachers were encouraged to factor their students' interests and levels of ability into how they taught, including giving a lot of very general projects to students working in teams, i.e. telling us what we needed to do and letting us figure out how. There was also more variety in courses available than in other schools.It was great, but it was too unconventional for the school board and by the time my younger brothers got to 9th grade it had been turned into just another conventional high school.
Rick wrote: "s•u•n•s•h•i•n•e §KENZ§ «mickey» wrote: "I'm trying to memorize one of his poems by tomorrow morning. (bleh, English). It's called "Dream-land"."Good luck!!! memorizing a Poe Poem! ewww"
I get requests every Halloween to read THE RAVEN aloud. I have been told that I do a fantastic job! I read it also to my students,and they love it. I have a statue of a raven in my classrooom!
Sadie wrote: "I loved The Count of Monte Cristo and The 3 Muskateers. Both kept me on the edge of my seat."Alexander Dumas wrote 3 Muskateers.
Love "The Raven", my very favorite Edgar Allen Poe poem. I heard an awesome narration of that before some movie, I think. Does anyone know whom may have narrated?
Could it have been Vincent Price..he was awesome at narrations?
there's a 5 cd set done of stories and poems done by both vincent price,and basil rathbone.on that set (which i own) rathbone does THE RAVEN.It's awesome! see website....
Wow Gary, I checked it out, that is so awesome and very reasonably priced. It is the best of both worlds, my favorite macrabe poet along with my favorite narrator. As a kid I watched so many old black and white horrors and will never forget, as long as my memory serves me well, Vincent Price's voice. Both men are legends. Sadly, as you must know, Edgar Allen Poe was a poor man and his works of art became wildly popular after his death and still is today. THANKS A LOT! I am truly amazed at all the great things I learn on this site and from members like yourself. I owe it to myself to order that amazing set.
Go for it,brian! i've not regretted it,and listened, over,and over and over.
Absolutely, that is precisely an audio format I would listen to over and over. Edgar Allen Poe is one of many poets I never get bored reading. With Vincent Price narrating, like I mentioned, the best of both worlds. I had no idea the 5 disc set even existed.
Well, let me know when you get it,and you're listening. you're gonna love it.
Gary wrote: "Sadie wrote: "I loved The Count of Monte Cristo and The 3 Muskateers. Both kept me on the edge of my seat."Alexander Dumas wrote 3 Muskateers.
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You're right he wrote both The Count of Monte Cristo and The 3 Musketeers. I didn't care as much for The Man in the Iron Mask. I'm not familiar with any of his other works.
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