J.D. Robb discussion

Scene 2 - just listened to it in Imitation.

Courtney wrote: "Scene 2 - just listened to it in Imitation."

Oh thank you!!! It has been driving me crazy.

Scene 1 is in Fantasy In Death, I believe:

“Do you think the penis ever gets tired?"

Whose?

Anybody's. I mean anybody with one. Does the penis ever just think: for God's sake pal, give it a rest? Or is it all: Woo-who!! Here we go again!”
― J.D. Robb, Fantasy in Death

Lol, I remember that scene!! Great one Sandra!

Thank you Sandra!! You guys rock!!

Okay, I'm really stressing out listening to Vengeance in Death and just need someone to tell me it gets better. (Lie to me if you have to.....)

SPOILERS:

I'm NOT liking Summerset right now - does he EVER respect Eve?

And I wish Eve didn't have to deal with yet another old flame of Roarke's; one that he actually LOVED this time. I get that he has a past with numerous women, (if I'm not mistaken, at least 3 of the first 4 books mention a connection between him and another woman - be it sexual, more-than-friendship or a casual hook up) but I much prefer Eve's angst to come from her cases where the victims or villians are not women from Roarke's previous relationships. I remind myself that he hasn't loved anyone like he loves Eve.

Beeg - I think this whole incident is a defining moment for Eve & Roarke's relationship...& maybe a turning point. Keep reading - I think you'll enjoy the ending.

I hope this helps you, Beeg, and I don't need to lie.

(view spoiler)[The Summerset/Eve relationship is a complex one and you'll come to love it down the road. You can't see that now (I hated him at this stage) so just hang in there. Also, there aren't many situations in this series where Eve has to deal with past romantic interests. This is the first of maybe two or three. All end well and you'll LOVE the journey. (hide spoiler)]

Thanks, Sandra and Jonetta-

I've decided to continue reading. I feel like I'd be missing out if I don't. LOL.
And yes, I pretty much hate Summerset. Ugh! Tightass.

I love Summerset, Beeg. Give it some time...& more books.

Beeg wrote: "Thanks, Sandra and Jonetta-

I've decided to continue reading. I feel like I'd be missing out if I don't. LOL.
And yes, I pretty much hate Summerset. Ugh! Tightass."

I was right where you were Beeg. You can ask Sandra. I think I would have been tempted to take him out if I met him on the street lol.

Hang in there. It gets better.

Roarke's women irritate me too. Also the way he just sort of laughs it off. I felt it was rather mean. It doesn't seem to bother Eve though and it doesn't reflect their relationship at all. I'm actually quite relieved to report the last couple of books I've read, I didn't have to sit through Eve hearing about how good Roarke is in bed from a wit/acquaintence. So that eases off some also.

Sandra -
Summerset must be doing something right if you love him by wherever you are in the series. Anything must be better than his present complete disdain for Eve. Ms Robb's portrayal of him is just brilliant. She's such a maestro with words. And Susan Erickson - she just gets better and better with each book.

Penni-
Okay, now I don't feel like a complete wuss cos I'm not the only one feeling the burn of Roarke's whatchamacallits' presence. I don't mind (too much) meaningless past hookups; it's the fact that he loved someone else before Eve and that they still have an effect on him even now. His love for Eve is so intense, I don't want him to be intense over anyone else. LOL. Unrealistic of me, I know, and I can't help hoping that somewhere down the line he experiences some of the jealousy and feelings of inadequacy Eve has to deal with.

Beeg - I'm one of the few who has always liked Summerset - even early on. He was nasty to Eve in the beginning but I think she gives as good as she gets. And she loves to take jabs at Summerset. I think Robb's use of his character is perfect in the series...I enjoy his & Eve's banter. But for those who don't start off liking him, I found that as the series progresses, you'll find examples of how he does come to care about Eve, as she does him. Though neither wants to admit it! lol

Beeg wrote: "Sandra -
Summerset must be doing something right if you love him by wherever you are in the series. Anything must be better than his present complete disdain for Eve. Ms Robb's portrayal of him is ..."

Summerset really doesn't like Eve at the beginning. Later it becomes more banter and a contest of sorts. After Eve has a sort of light bulb go off and realizes what Summerset really is unhappy about and confronts him with it. It took me even awhile after that to warm up to him.

Yea - I get it about past loves. But she never really had any. She never thought twice about Webster, even though he did about her. She doesn't even have fantasies like others do - she's mostly like ewww whenever Peabody starts talking about things like that.

I'm on the audiobook of Midnight in Death now and wondered why it shows up in GR as #7.5? I thought it would be #8 as per your list - am I missing a novella, perhaps?

Midnight In Death is a novella. It appeared in Silent Night.

We show the books in chronological order on the book list. It is the novella, numbered as 7.5. All novellas on the list have the anthology in which it appears listed in the parenthetical statement next to the title.

Sandra and Jonetta- thanks, yes.
Just after I posted here I checked the size of the audiobook and then realised it must be a novella cos its less than half the size of the usual ones

In I've just met Zeke. He's such a sweetie. PLEASE tell me nothing bad happens to him? What kind of coincidence is it that the Branson's are somehow connected to him! I was like what in the WORLD is going on here!!!??
(I really shouldn't listen to ID books just before bed time - I'm obviously not gonna sleep peacefully tonight)

Beeg, (view spoiler)[no worries (hide spoiler)]

Please tell me Trueheart is gonna be 100% fine....

Beeg, you're going to worry yourself ill!

Jonetta wrote: "Beeg, you're going to worry yourself ill!"

I cant help IT! He's adorable in Witness In Death

Beeg wrote: "cant help IT! He's adorable in Witness In Death"

He certainly is. Keep reading for some wonderful scenes...

LOL Beeg! These books really pull the reader in, don't they?! We all feel a connection to each character! I adore Trueheart also!

So I am 40 something percent into , and it's my first time reading the book. I'm loving it btw. But I have a question about Roarke. In the scene where Eve goes to check out his weapons collection, and pick up the .38 for testing, it says Roarke is pointing to the wrong weapon. Eve sort of hesitates then picks up the gun below the one he's pointing one too. So she picks up the .38 but it's not the one he was pointing to. What's that about? Does he not know the weapons? I'd find that hard to believe since he's a collector. I don't believe he's the killer, otherwise I'd think he'd be pointing out to her his next weapon of choice. I tagged the page because it confused me. Any thoughts ladies?

If I'm remembering correctly, he pointed to the "wrong" weapon. Eve never told him the specific details about the gun and the fact that he points to a different one is meaningful. He doesn't know which was used in the murder.

Am I getting this right all?

From what I remember she had told him the make model. But by pointing to the wrong one he was testing to see if she knew. Surmising that is she knew they had the weapon as it was something she probably wouldn't know otherwise. But that's just how I remember and it's been awhile.

That should be "if she knew"

Yes, he's pointed to the wrong weapon but Eve did tell him the model that was used in the murder. I just checked. So he knew had the .38 in his collection, but didn't point at it.

If she said that's the wrong one then that would point to the murder weapon being in her possession which she didn't tell him. Because the murderer would know that info so that was a detail they didn't immediately release.

Thanks for clarifying Penni!

Well it's only how I remember it. Could be different and it's been awhile. I just remembering them feeling each other out. Testing.

I'm still confused. She told him the model of the gun. He said he had it, but pointed to another gun. She took the correct gun. What am I missing?

It proves she knew which gun it was. He was testing to see if she did. By picking the right gun that told him she had the mirder weapon. She wouldn't have known otherwise.

Oh, I didn't think of it that way! But why is Roarke testing to see if she knows the murder weapon?

Because if she knew what the weapon looked like, she had to have seen it, which meant to him that she had the murder weapon in her possession. So she knew that whatever weapon Roarke had was not the actual murder weapon - she was just trying to get information from him and see what he knew - so by picking the correct weapon she gave away information to him that she hadn't told him directly.

Sorry - not doing too well at explaining. Hate typing on phone :-)

Oh, that's smart P. Never would have thought of it myself. Thanks.

Really, thank you, Penni. It's been five years since I read this book.

Jonetta wrote: "Really, thank you, Penni. It's been five years since I read this book."

I swore I'd never forget anything, but I already am confusing them. I have read the first 3 more than once already though even though I haven't gotten all the way through the series yet. Still probably my favorites because it starts it all.

It's easy to confuse small details.

I thought I'd never forget the big stuff as I've read the series three times. But, it's been five years:(

Jonetta wrote: "I thought I'd never forget the big stuff as I've read the series three times. But, it's been five years:("

There are just soooo many. It's hard to remember. My brain kinda stuck on that point when I read it also, so I remember it a little better. The flower quetion that came up - I remembered - but for hte life of me couldn't remember what book or the details.

It's all running together after a point.

I remember Roarke using that blossom on Eve but haven't a clue which book and I'm pretty certain it wasn't Immortal in Death.

Jonetta wrote: "I remember Roarke using that blossom on Eve but haven't a clue which book and I'm pretty certain it wasn't Immortal in Death."

I keep thinking it had something to do with the case - but for the life of me I can't dredge up any more details than the pool scene. Maybe that says something too lol.

Penni wrote: "Jonetta wrote: "I remember Roarke using that blossom on Eve but haven't a clue which book and I'm pretty certain it wasn't Immortal in Death."

I keep thinking it had something to do ..."

I'm pretty sure it was. The one with the models.

Penni wrote: "Because if she knew what the weapon looked like, she had to have seen it, which meant to him that she had the murder weapon in her possession. So she knew that whatever weapon Roarke had was not t..."

You explained it perfectly, Penni. And yes, they did a lot of "testing" each other in the beginning...feeling their way.

The immortal blossom is in Immortal in Death...but I don't remember if the pool scene is or not.

It was solved in another thread. It was the Venus blossom and the scene was in the pool in Survivor In Death.