YA and Beyond discussion

I appreciate you input. That's exactly how I feel about it. And don't even get me started on Methadone.

Methadone is a joke - all my clients will tell you if you are really in recovery you don't even want to take an asprin. My client just had an 11 pound baby via c-section and she freaked out because they made her take pain meds. She was really responsible about it and only took them a few days, but she was so worried I had to calm her down about it!

That's how I feel about Methadone too. You're poor client. I would have been worried about it too if I was in recovery.

I'm relieved that he wants to get help but very skeptical. We have been here before. Today is his eval appointment and I'm ready for a fight.

Shannen I hope all went well today at the evaluation. Keep your eyes and mind open along with your heart. I am telling you I am all about the drug screens!

Sorry I missed this, Heidi! If it doesn't pop up on the first screen, I don't see it.

So here's the update: After his eval, he used again. He got ahold of his final paycheck before I could and spent it on drugs. Since then, we moved him out of my mom's house and into my husband's parents' house. My mom is too soft on him and believed his load of crap. Thankfully, my FIL is retired and is willing to babysit him. He is going to group four days a week and is on Suboxone. After talking with the med provider at my sister's work and my son's med provider, I think this is a good decision for him. He had to sign a contract that he would go to treatment and if he doesn't, they won't refill his rx. He goes into in-patient on the 5th for three weeks then he will have heavy out-patient treatment. I don't have a clue what we are going to do with him when he gets out of treatment because my youngest son wants nothing to do with him and doesn't want him back in the house.

And these are the days of our lives... ;)

Shannen I am not surprised he used again - having money on hand for a person fresh in recovery is too much temptation. One of my clients actually told me she was afraid to get a job again because she feared having access to money. Sounds like he has a good treatment plan set up so I hope all goes well. I hope you know you are not alone because there are millions of families out there that suffer the same issue. Hang in there and make sure someone is a contact person with his treatment provider to double check everything (that he showed up, drug screen results, etc..). Addicts need to be held accountable above all else.

Thanks, ladies. I think when he gets working again or gets unemployment (or whatever), I'll make sure he has a payee so he doesn't have access to his money. Even if I am the one who has to be the meanie with his money, I can handle it. Yesterday was a tough day emotionally and I'm praying today will be better. Having dinner with him alone tonight while my hubby is on graveyard. Wish me luck!

He needs meanies right now Shannen! I hope your dinner goes well.

Yes he does. Losing his girlfriend has been the hardest thing for him but he had some hope that she would stay with him. I think that hope was quashed yesterday and it really sucks to see him so heartbroken (even if he brought it on himself). Hoping he is better today.

BTW - Thanks to everyone for their thoughts and words of encouragement and for just letting me vent.

Let's get this back on a better track...

My library is now using Overdrive for a very limited number of books. So I was all excited and downloaded the Overdrive app to my phone and checked out Bloody Jack (!) but apparently I can't directly access it from the app on my phone. I was planning on listening to it tonight at the gym. Now I have to wait until I get home to figure all of this out. Technology is so confusing!

Yay for Overdrive! Is your phone compatable with Overdrive Shannen? http://www.overdrive.com/resources/drc/ I would be happy to mail you my copy of Bloody Jack on audio - I mailed it to Wendy awhile back and she mailed it back already :)

Um...let me think on that one Bluemoon.

Hahaha Bluemoon! Your dog has aged before your eyes.

Hahaha!

I was going to ask if anyone has ever been to Washington, D.C. I am going in August and wanted to know if there were any good museums or other stops I should check out?

Not since I was little Pamela.

Washington,nice. not on my immidiate to visit list, (havent been no) but you will probably have a great time. enjoy.

so.. everybody back to usual after summer?
I start classes on monday,so still got time to be a wreck.

I work everyday so no change for me! I will miss the long summer days though once it gets to be fall.

Heidi *Listen. I'll just keep talking anyway. * wrote: "I work everyday so no change for me! I will miss the long summer days though once it gets to be fall."

yes,looking out the window its clare its less summer and more fall these days.( its very very dark,atm. 22.36 here in norway)

It is getting darker earlier here Oda. It was light out until after 9:00 p.m. and now it is getting dark around 8:00-8:30.

Heidi *Listen. I'll just keep talking anyway. * wrote: "It is getting darker earlier here Oda. It was light out until after 9:00 p.m. and now it is getting dark around 8:00-8:30."

it gets dark here around 10,but its still a difference.( since you know from may- august thers sun 24\7 )

Minor eye surgery today. Was in hospital over the weekend. Concussion which led automatically to post concussive syndrome on Monday the 8th. Someday soon I will get to pick up a good book again. Some day soon.

Aww Kaylani! That sucks. I am telling you look into audiobooks. A lot of people with disabilities or suffering from illness turn to audio when they can't read print.

Oh no, I'm so sorry Kaylani. :( Like Heidi said, maybe audio books would be worth a try? I hope you can read again soon. *Hugs*

hey.
am bored,anything exciting happening over there?

Over where exactly? The States?? Or my horrid work cubicle??

Heidi (the original) wrote: "Over where exactly? The States?? Or my horrid work cubicle??"

over there in you(the other on this chat) "land".
so you bored too?since you described youre work as horrid?

My work is not horrid. My cubicle is! Not much going on here. I just bought my own new car for the first time in my life (used cars before that) so that is my main excitement. How about you??

Heidi (the original) wrote: "My work is not horrid. My cubicle is! Not much going on here. I just bought my own new car for the first time in my life (used cars before that) so that is my main excitement. How about you??"

Same old,same old here.
well not same old,usually I dont mind university and such but this week I`m counting down the days till the weekend all the time.hmm..other than that,my sister is coming to visit on friday,watching a movie tomorrow with my class,...aand I cant wait for the next castle episode on thursday. :D
youre work is not horrid? what do you do for a living?something fun? sorry for you ,having a bad cubicle and all.

I have been a Probation Officer for 15 years and love my job (most days at least :) I LOVE Castle!!!

So, I have started the countdown. And today its 8-9 weeks till xmas.
So, you guys have any big xmas gift wishes?And to make it hard you cannot say anything book related.
Personally theres lots of music I want, Dean martin,Cole Porter, +++

I want a nice, warm pair of slippers.

Warm slippers are awesome! No Christmas talk for me - too early!

warmslippers is a great wish :)
Heidi, why is it too early for you? its just as long to christmas for you as for us.

I meant too early mentally! We haven't even had Halloween here yet. I don't really get too many gifts since I am older now so it has lost some of the magic for me :(

Actually, my birthday is coming up so I think I'll be getting the slippers then. I'll have to rethink my wish list after that.

Heidi (the original) wrote: "I meant too early mentally! We haven't even had Halloween here yet. I don't really get too many gifts since I am older now so it has lost some of the magic for me :("

Well here in Norway xmas is the next big thing. We have Halloween here but its not that big, and thanksgiving is off course not celebrated. I`m mostly looking forward to xmas for the free time. getting tired of university, even though I love it(am taking english) I still cant wait for xmas time.

With me xmas is not just about the presents anymore either(thought those are nice) but its also very much about family. I`m the youngest so its nice to see my sisters again. Also the good food, the feeling of total relaxtation,the board and card games. All of it makes me love xmas,not just the gifts.

Yes Oda. Enjoy Christmas while you are young. That is when it is the best! You get off school and get to see old friends and family. When you are an old boring adult it loses it magic. I am child free though so it might be different for parents of children out there :) Either way - enjoy!

The kids do make Christmas magical, but the having to visit every relative in the course of three days is stressful. (The kids' grandparents are 5 hours away from each other, my brother-in-law is even further away and we live 1.5 hours away from the closest one.). We actually made a rule that we would always spend Christmas morning at our house so don't expect us to come to your house any time soon. When the kids do get to see their cousins and they run off to play games and the adults play their own games and talk, it is really nice. It's just the getting there that's the hard part.

Becky, that's one of the few benefits of not living by family! We stay home and actually enjoy a quiet holiday together. Of Course the other 364 days I really wish people were fighting for our attention!

Kristen wrote: "Becky, that's one of the few benefits of not living by family! We stay home and actually enjoy a quiet holiday together. Of Course the other 364 days I really wish people were fighting for our at..."

My family does not live close to me either. Closest family lives 2-3 days driving away. To me xmas has always been about my closets family(mom,dad,sisters).
I usually only see my extended family i the summer.

I agree Kristen. I live in a different state from my family so the holidays are much less stressful that way :) Oda I can see why you are even more excited for the holidays if you live that far away!

Yep, I'm with you guys. My hubby and I made a rule when we got married that we would always have Xmas day to ourselves instead of the stress of inviting Mums, Dads & siblings over for dinner. Thankfully, my extended family all live far enough away that there's no impromptu visits, I usually leave that for boxing day.

I much prefer to batten down the hatches and just chill out with my boys, watching the usual yearly films on the TV, while munching our own body weight in chocolate. The oldies are the best, even if I've seen some of them a hundred times, such as It's a wonderful life or the Sound of Music. The best bit of Xmas day for me is sitting down with a glass of bubbly to watch the Dr Who Xmas special after working up a sweat in the kitchen preparing the Xmas dinner. The madness running up to Xmas I could definitely live without, though. I have a huge family and it takes me ages to get through my list, not to mention the expense. I'm usually a grumpy Grinch up until the time I put up the tree & hang decorations to a bit of Michael Buble in the background :) Anyone else have any Xmas highlights?

W.J. wrote: "Yep, I'm with you guys. My hubby and I made a rule when we got married that we would always have Xmas day to ourselves instead of the stress of inviting Mums, Dads & siblings over for dinner. Thank..."

I think for me the highlight of christmas must be after we have opened the presents(here in norway its common to open presents after xmas dinner) we usually end up playing cards or a board game. I love the atmosphere then, the joy we all share. We have great food in our stomaches, and great presents around us. We are all smiles everyone.

Oda, that's a lovely tradition. I really like the idea of opening presents after Xmas dinner when everyone is more chilled out after their meal and a few drinks :) As my kids are getting a bit older now, they'll happily join in with a game of charades or the post it note, guessing game after the meal. It's a great way of bringing everyone together, even if it doesn't happen very often.

W.J. wrote: "Oda, that's a lovely tradition. I really like the idea of opening presents after Xmas dinner when everyone is more chilled out after their meal and a few drinks :) As my kids are getting a bit olde..."

For me xmas is all about games, we usually play some kind of game every day of christmas.
Also its common with quiz here. We love our quiz here in norway. Theres always a new quiz book coming out, and espesially in easter and xmas we love to quiz.

Hi everyone i am sorry for being away for so long i been very sick with flu and i still have it so i won't be online much this week so if i have a buddy read coming up on here let me know and i will get started on the book. thank you

Sorry you are sick Tammie :(