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THE BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Battle of Britain:
The Cost -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11029903
Why Germany Lost by Battle of Britain author - James Holland
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11022335
by James Holland
The Cost -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11029903
Why Germany Lost by Battle of Britain author - James Holland
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11022335

Winston Churchill's Battle of Britain 'Few' remembered
Article plus video:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11026119
The 70th anniversary of the Battle of Britain is being commemorated by a reading of one of Churchill's most famous speeches and a fly-past.
Winston Churchill's "so much owed by so many to so few" speech will be read at 1552 BST, precisely 70 years after he gave the address in Parliament.
Article plus video:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11026119
The 70th anniversary of the Battle of Britain is being commemorated by a reading of one of Churchill's most famous speeches and a fly-past.
Winston Churchill's "so much owed by so many to so few" speech will be read at 1552 BST, precisely 70 years after he gave the address in Parliament.
Evan Davis: Spitfire Pilot
Seventy years on from the Battle of Britain, can the current generation comprehend what it is like to fly a Spitfire?
To find out, BBC Radio 4 Today programme presenter Evan Davis took a flight with The Aircraft Restoration Company's chief engineer and test pilot John Romain.
With video:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11004370
Seventy years on from the Battle of Britain, can the current generation comprehend what it is like to fly a Spitfire?
To find out, BBC Radio 4 Today programme presenter Evan Davis took a flight with The Aircraft Restoration Company's chief engineer and test pilot John Romain.
With video:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11004370
A Poem for the few - read and written by former Spitfire pilot William Walker: (with audio)
The Battle of Britain entered its most critical phase 70 years ago this week.
Spitfire pilot William Walker reads a poem he wrote in memory of the pilots who died in the battle.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/...
The Battle of Britain entered its most critical phase 70 years ago this week.
Spitfire pilot William Walker reads a poem he wrote in memory of the pilots who died in the battle.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/...
Remembering the Battle of Britain
Forever associated with the RAF's victory in the Battle of Britain 70 years ago, the Supermarine Spitfire has secured an enduring nostalgic place in British aviation history.
For BBC Radio 4's Today programme, presenter Evan Davis was shown around a workshop at Duxford in Cambridgeshire, where rusty remnants of the fighter aircraft are used to help restore old Spitfires to their former glory.
Audio slideshow: Spitfire Saviours
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10955752
Forever associated with the RAF's victory in the Battle of Britain 70 years ago, the Supermarine Spitfire has secured an enduring nostalgic place in British aviation history.
For BBC Radio 4's Today programme, presenter Evan Davis was shown around a workshop at Duxford in Cambridgeshire, where rusty remnants of the fighter aircraft are used to help restore old Spitfires to their former glory.
Audio slideshow: Spitfire Saviours
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10955752
How Important was the Battle of Britain?
It is the 70th anniversary of Winston Churchill's speech praising "the few" of the Battle of Britain.
History professor Norman Davies and author James Holland discuss whether give to much historical importance to this moment in the nation's history.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/...
It is the 70th anniversary of Winston Churchill's speech praising "the few" of the Battle of Britain.
History professor Norman Davies and author James Holland discuss whether give to much historical importance to this moment in the nation's history.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/...
'I was never let down by a Spitfire'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/...
Winston Churchill's famous tribute to the pilots of the Battle of Britain is being commemorated today.
For the fourth in a series of reports about the events of 1940, Sanchia Berg speaks to William Walker, who flew Spitfires in the aerial war.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/...
Winston Churchill's famous tribute to the pilots of the Battle of Britain is being commemorated today.
For the fourth in a series of reports about the events of 1940, Sanchia Berg speaks to William Walker, who flew Spitfires in the aerial war.
'The pilots were exceptionally brave'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/...
The Spitfire and Hurricane pilots of the Battle of Britain garner much of the glory, but they would never have taken off without their ground crew.
In the second of five reports, reporter Sanchia Berg talks to Ronald Tooke, who was a young engine fitter for a frontline Hurricane squadron.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/...
The Spitfire and Hurricane pilots of the Battle of Britain garner much of the glory, but they would never have taken off without their ground crew.
In the second of five reports, reporter Sanchia Berg talks to Ronald Tooke, who was a young engine fitter for a frontline Hurricane squadron.
'Everyone pulling together, defending our homes'
On this day 70 years ago plotter Hazel Gregory was taking part in one of the fiercest days of fighting in the Battle of Britain.
For the third report charting a critical week in the battle, she describes plotting the course of hundreds of German bombers across London in the RAF operations room.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/...
On this day 70 years ago plotter Hazel Gregory was taking part in one of the fiercest days of fighting in the Battle of Britain.
For the third report charting a critical week in the battle, she describes plotting the course of hundreds of German bombers across London in the RAF operations room.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/...
'Flak is bursting all around you'
The Battle of Britain entered its most critical phase 70 years ago this week.
In the first of Sanchia Berg's five reports Tom Neil, then a pilot officer based in southern England, describes the fearsome fighting in the air over Britain.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/...
The Battle of Britain entered its most critical phase 70 years ago this week.
In the first of Sanchia Berg's five reports Tom Neil, then a pilot officer based in southern England, describes the fearsome fighting in the air over Britain.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/...
Past meets future in Battle of Britain village
Tangmere in West Sussex, one of the country villages made famous forever by the Battle of Britain, seems quiet today.
Its 1940s control tower looks out over summer fields of wheat and maize in the countryside east of Chichester where, in that other summer 70 years ago, Tangmere's RAF Hurricane fighters were in the front line.
Alongside the former runways, huge high-tech glasshouses stretch - 63 acres of them, where thousands of peppers ripen silently for Britain's supermarkets.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10703466
Tangmere in West Sussex, one of the country villages made famous forever by the Battle of Britain, seems quiet today.
Its 1940s control tower looks out over summer fields of wheat and maize in the countryside east of Chichester where, in that other summer 70 years ago, Tangmere's RAF Hurricane fighters were in the front line.
Alongside the former runways, huge high-tech glasshouses stretch - 63 acres of them, where thousands of peppers ripen silently for Britain's supermarkets.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10703466
Tangmere Airfield Pepper Nurseries (what happened to the airfields)
http://www.tangmere.co.uk/en-GB/Histo...
http://www.tangmere.co.uk/en-GB/Histo...
This is a terrific resource: The BBC Archives for the Battle of Britain:
WWII: The Battle of Britain | Memories of 'Britain's finest hour'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/battleof...
WWII: The Battle of Britain | Memories of 'Britain's finest hour'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/battleof...


Some other good titles are:

"An extraordinary, deeply moving and astonishingly evocative story. Reading it, you feel you are in the Spitfire with him, at 20,000 feet, chased by a German Heinkel, with your ammunition gone." - Independent

"The most exhaustive and detailed account of the Battle of Britain that has yet appeared." - Times Literary Supplement
"A fascinating case history in illusion and reality. He dispels the myths and kills the cliches... Admirable." - Godfrey Smith, (Sunday Times)

"Both sides of the Battle of Britain are shown in a day-to-day, blow-by-blow account between 609 Squadron based in southern England and 1/JG53' a Luftwaffe staffel based in northern France. The tense action of aerial combat and the relief felt by individual pilots surviving these encounters, the elation of a successful `kill' and the tragedy of seeing a friend shot down highlight the common fears felt by airmen on both sides of the fight."
Of course, I am opening up this thread for everybody to discuss this event and to add books that are appropriate and recommended.
Thank you for your adds.
Thank you for your adds.

White Cliffs Of Dover - Spitfire Show
Battle of Britain
Pure Merlin Engine Sounds "Without Music"
Just as an FYI Aussie Rick - the first link does not seem to work in the US. For those of you looking for spitfire film clips there are a quite a few that can be found with the link in message 5.
I look forward to looking at the second link which has opened.
Thanks.
I look forward to looking at the second link which has opened.
Thanks.


Publishers blurb
This superb commemorative edition showcases the Battle of Britain paintings of the world's finest aviation artist, Robert Taylor. It celebrates the 70th anniversary of the momentous aerial battle that took place in the skies about Southern England in the Summer of 1940, during World War II.
The story of more than thirty dynamic actions during the battle is told as the background to Robert Taylor's stunning depictions of the event. Detailed information about the battle as well as fascinating information about the paintings is augmented by the recollections of some of the most famous aces, including Douglas Bader, Johnnie Johnson, and, Adolf Galland. Includes paintings of Spitfires, Hurricanes, Messerschmitts, Focke-Wulf and Junkers amongst others
Yes thank you. One of the reasons that I began this thread is that this week marked the anniversary with tributes to those who are still alive who flew during this period of time which was about four months (July to October 1940 reaching its peak on the 15th of September).
From the American Archives are some actual pictures of the dog fights and they are included in this news video. The newscaster was delivering his news from the Churchill War Rooms and from the actual presentation ceremony where many of the surviving pilots attended (now in their late 80's and 90's). They do not want to be personally thanked but would collectively like to be remembered in terms of those who made the supreme sacrifice as well as those who participated.
For their respective ages, they all looked pretty sharp for the occasion.
Tributes to Battle of Britain 'Few'
The 70th anniversary of the Battle of Britain has been marked by a reading of one of Sir Winston Churchill's most famous speeches and a fly-past.
Actor Robert Hardy read extracts from Churchill's "so much owed by so many to so few" speech, precisely 70 years after the address in Parliament.
The speech strengthened this country's resolve as Britain, and her Empire, stood alone against Nazi Germany.
Nick Higham reports.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11043462
Note: 20 August 1940 was the date when Winston Churchill delivered the "Never was so much owed by so many to so few" war speech to the British Parliament.
From the American Archives are some actual pictures of the dog fights and they are included in this news video. The newscaster was delivering his news from the Churchill War Rooms and from the actual presentation ceremony where many of the surviving pilots attended (now in their late 80's and 90's). They do not want to be personally thanked but would collectively like to be remembered in terms of those who made the supreme sacrifice as well as those who participated.
For their respective ages, they all looked pretty sharp for the occasion.
Tributes to Battle of Britain 'Few'
The 70th anniversary of the Battle of Britain has been marked by a reading of one of Sir Winston Churchill's most famous speeches and a fly-past.
Actor Robert Hardy read extracts from Churchill's "so much owed by so many to so few" speech, precisely 70 years after the address in Parliament.
The speech strengthened this country's resolve as Britain, and her Empire, stood alone against Nazi Germany.
Nick Higham reports.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11043462
Note: 20 August 1940 was the date when Winston Churchill delivered the "Never was so much owed by so many to so few" war speech to the British Parliament.
The Few Speech delivered by Winston Churchill to the British Parliament on August 20, 1940 (Entire Text)
http://www.winstonchurchill.org/learn...
Source: Churchill Centre and Museum Site
This speech is not only one of Churchill's most inspiring speeches; but it has become so well known (probably even more so) as the years have gone by; but these words also describe the differences between World War I and World War II, the agreements made with the US and Roosevelt, why the RAF was so important, why the enemy ports needed to be blockaded; how foodstuffs can be used in weaponry, Churchill's disppointment in the French resolve in this war aside from General DeGaulle as compared to World War I. And I love the reference to the Mississippi in the last line that the conflict has to run its course and cannot be stopped and it will just keep rolling along. A great speech to the people. Churchill kept his people proud of themselves and survivable. The country owed him a lot.
http://www.winstonchurchill.org/learn...
Source: Churchill Centre and Museum Site
This speech is not only one of Churchill's most inspiring speeches; but it has become so well known (probably even more so) as the years have gone by; but these words also describe the differences between World War I and World War II, the agreements made with the US and Roosevelt, why the RAF was so important, why the enemy ports needed to be blockaded; how foodstuffs can be used in weaponry, Churchill's disppointment in the French resolve in this war aside from General DeGaulle as compared to World War I. And I love the reference to the Mississippi in the last line that the conflict has to run its course and cannot be stopped and it will just keep rolling along. A great speech to the people. Churchill kept his people proud of themselves and survivable. The country owed him a lot.


Review:
"With his customary narrative drive, Kershaw (The Bedford Boys: One American Town's Ultimate D-Day Sacrifice) spotlights the handful of American pilots who joined the Royal Air Force and its fighter squadrons during the Battle of Britain. They have been overshadowed by or confused with the better-known Eagle Squadrons, which formed in the autumn of 1940 with the tacit consent of the U.S. government. Kershaw's "few" were a vanguard, enlisting individually to operate the British Spitfire planes as early as May 1940, when England stood alone and her odds of survival seemed long. Crusaders and adventurers, the pilots ignored U.S. neutrality acts to fight from a mixture of principled opposition to Nazism, vaguely defined Anglophilia and sheer love of air combat at a time when it still seemed glamorous. Scattered by ones and twos among different squadrons, each had his own story, which Kershaw admirably contextualizes within the climate of the Battle of Britain. Using personal vignettes to convey the extraordinary routines of life in the cockpits, in the squadrons and in England, Kershaw evokes the heroism of these pilots, only one of whom survived the war whose tide they helped turn." - Publishers Weekly
Yes, the speech was both fabulous and enlightening; I also did not realize how long it actually was too. But after reading the Keegan book, I was really struck at how well Churchill described the differences between the two wars. I wish politicians were able to talk to us that way today. Wouldn't it be nice to be inspired that way or even be able to be inspired or admire somebody that way in spite of their warts.

Spitfire and Hurricane in Battle of Britain flypast
Prince Charles said the veterans' sense of duty was evident in today's military personnel
A Spitfire and a Hurricane have taken part in a flypast to mark the 70th anniversary of the Battle of Britain.
September 19, 2010
It was watched by Prince Charles, Prince William and Prime Minister David Cameron, who all attended a service at Westminster Abbey.
The 1940 battle saw RAF pilots repelling a German bid for air superiority, making an invasion of the UK impossible.
Prince Charles said the veterans always brought a "tear to his eye".
The Westminster Abbey service was attended by veterans of the Battle of Britain and representatives of the Ministry of Defence.
An RAF chaplain spoke of the pilots' "bravery and sacrifice" for freedom.
I can never get over how wonderful they are, this country does produce staggeringly special people”
As well as commemorating the achievements of those who fought in the 1940s, this year's service celebrated the work of the men and women currently serving in the Royal Air Force.
The Prince of Wales is patron of the Battle of Britain Fighter Association, and his son, Prince William, has just graduated as an RAF helicopter pilot.
Following the thanksgiving service, Prince Charles said: "I always find it so moving, this particular service each year, it always brings a tear to my eye particularly in the way the wonderful veterans marched up the aisle.
"There's something very special about it. Of course we owe an enormous debt to them, it makes one feel very humble."
More of the article:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11360228
Prince Charles said the veterans' sense of duty was evident in today's military personnel
A Spitfire and a Hurricane have taken part in a flypast to mark the 70th anniversary of the Battle of Britain.
September 19, 2010
It was watched by Prince Charles, Prince William and Prime Minister David Cameron, who all attended a service at Westminster Abbey.
The 1940 battle saw RAF pilots repelling a German bid for air superiority, making an invasion of the UK impossible.
Prince Charles said the veterans always brought a "tear to his eye".
The Westminster Abbey service was attended by veterans of the Battle of Britain and representatives of the Ministry of Defence.
An RAF chaplain spoke of the pilots' "bravery and sacrifice" for freedom.
I can never get over how wonderful they are, this country does produce staggeringly special people”
As well as commemorating the achievements of those who fought in the 1940s, this year's service celebrated the work of the men and women currently serving in the Royal Air Force.
The Prince of Wales is patron of the Battle of Britain Fighter Association, and his son, Prince William, has just graduated as an RAF helicopter pilot.
Following the thanksgiving service, Prince Charles said: "I always find it so moving, this particular service each year, it always brings a tear to my eye particularly in the way the wonderful veterans marched up the aisle.
"There's something very special about it. Of course we owe an enormous debt to them, it makes one feel very humble."
More of the article:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11360228




Throughout the summer of 1940, German bombers pounded the RAF bases in southern England. Greatly outnumbered by the Luftwaffe, the RAF overcame quantity with quality. This book presents the personal stories from those who survived.



I have read this book and thought it was fantastic. Great research and very well written.





And the author's latest release:



I have the first two but not the latest book. I also have a copy of this book which I should try and get around to reading soon:



Photos, combined with newspaper articles, diary entries and interviews with survivors, this collection presents a vivid, accurate and emotional account of an event that is almost beyond comprehension today. It clearly shows that London Can Take It!!!!!
I am not sure if you have visited the Churchill Museum (in London) but if you haven't it is a very worthwhile trip. London was very much destroyed during that period of time. Remarkable how with the resilience of the British people, you would never know it now when you walk through the city today - even though it is 70+ years later (the stateliness of the older buildings still exists).
From Wikipedia:
The city of London was bombed by the Luftwaffe for 76 consecutive nights and many towns and cities across the country followed. More than one million London houses were destroyed or damaged, and more than 40,000 civilians were killed, half of them in London.
From Wikipedia:
The city of London was bombed by the Luftwaffe for 76 consecutive nights and many towns and cities across the country followed. More than one million London houses were destroyed or damaged, and more than 40,000 civilians were killed, half of them in London.

Here is a link to one of the first broadcasts of the London blitz....Edward R. Murrow from Trafalgar Square in April, 1940.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpOKri...

Books mentioned in this topic
The Secret Battle For Britain: The RAF’s Handling and Interrogation of Luftwaffe Prisoners of War 1939-1940 (other topics)Spitfire Pilot: A Personal Account of the Battle of Britain (other topics)
The Year Of The Buzz Bomb; A Journal Of London, 1944 (other topics)
One Hundred and Fifty Years of London Fire Brigade in Pictures (other topics)
Hitler's Luftwaffe (other topics)
More...
Authors mentioned in this topic
M. S. Morgan (other topics)David M. Crook (other topics)
Richard Brown Baker (other topics)
Jane Rugg (other topics)
Tony Woods (other topics)
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The Battle of Britain (German: Luftschlacht um England or Luftschlacht um Großbritannien) is the name given to the air campaign waged by the German Air Force (Luftwaffe) against the United Kingdom during the summer and autumn of 1940.
The objective of the campaign was to gain air superiority over the Royal Air Force (RAF), especially Fighter Command. The name derives from a famous speech delivered by Prime Minister Winston Churchill in the House of Commons: "The Battle of France is over. I expect the Battle of Britain is about to begin..."
The Battle of Britain was the first major campaign to be fought entirely by air forces, and was also the largest and most sustained aerial bombing campaign to that date.
From July 1940 coastal shipping convoys and shipping centres, such as Portsmouth were the main targets; one month later the Luftwaffe shifted its attacks to RAF airfields and infrastructure.
As the battle progressed the Luftwaffe also targeted aircraft factories and ground infrastructure. Eventually the Luftwaffe resorted to attacking areas of political significance and using terror bombing tactics.
The failure of Germany to achieve its objectives of destroying Britain's air defences, or forcing Britain to negotiate an armistice or an outright surrender is considered its first major defeat and one of the crucial turning points in the war.
If Germany had gained air superiority, Adolf Hitler might have launched Operation Sea Lion, an amphibious and airborne invasion of Britain.
Source: Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_o...