J.D. Robb discussion

I love Summerset. He's grumpy a lot, sure, but underneath it, he totally cares.

I think he is a good comic relief.

Yeah i think he's a funny guy but he's so miserable

Christine wrote: "Yeah i think he's a funny guy but he's so miserable"

I don't see him as miserable just anal. Really Really Anal

Yeah that's true dee

I also see the Anal-ness!!

Ditto. Completely anal retentive. In fact, I looked up the term on wikipedia, and it SCREAMS Summerset:

"The term anal-retentive ... is used conversationally to describe a person who pays such attention to detail that the obsession becomes an annoyance to others, potentially to the detriment of the anal-retentive person."

Heehee!

Sara ♥ wrote: "Ditto. Completely anal retentive. In fact, I looked up the term on wikipedia, and it SCREAMS Summerset:

"The term anal-retentive ... is used conversationally to describe a person who pays such..."

that is so cool!

I don't see Sommerset as a miserable guy..first of all he's British and a butler. So therefore he has that persona--in charge of all the household stuff and is quite reserved. He also has a very personal relationship with Roarke--a father figure really. Enter Eve--a cop and a bit rough around the edges and NOT Sommerset's idea of the type of woman Roarke deserves to be with--and he might feel like he has to protect Roarke from unsavory characters. But as he gets to know the type of person Eve is--then he becomes protective of her. Even from the first part of the series, when he comes upon her having a nightmare--he starts to understand her and what she's been through. You also see as the series evolves, more of what Sommerset has gone through himself with his daughter and some of his background. I really like him. He's very competent, takes care of the household, food, etc.. I would value a person that does all the little things that keeps the house running smoothly...hey, like a mom!

Well it's like he never smiles or anything

That would be creepy! Smiling isn't his thing, you know?

What I don't understand is why he is the butler. I mean he took Roarke in when he was a beaten up kid. He protected him and even killed Roarke's father, which I realize Roarke doesn't know, but still he could be doing anything even working in Roarke's company as a vice president or something.

I have no idea

THAT is what I've always wondered! I mean, I get that this is Summerset's way of taking care of Roarke, but the butler? Seems so... menial...

Sara ♥ wrote: "THAT is what I've always wondered! I mean, I get that this is Summerset's way of taking care of Roarke, but the butler? Seems so... menial..."

TRUE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the only thing I can guess is this is where Summerset wanted to be.....Still I wish Robb would address it sometime

Yeah i wish that too

Same

I think he is a little more than a butler. He basically runs Roarke's entire household and manages all his personal affairs. I think he probably fell into that position by wanting to micro-manage his "son" and Roarke indulges him and wouldn't really trust anyone else anyway.

Stephaney wrote: "I think he is a little more than a butler. He basically runs Roarke's entire household and manages all his personal affairs. I think he probably fell into that position by wanting to micro-manage..."

...that also makes sense

I like that idea, Stephaney, and I agree, Dee... I don't think he'd be doing it if he didn't want to.

I adore summerset. He and Eve make a great team. Dee, I agree about the comic relief. I just finished Vengeance, which is one of my favorites. There are some great insights into the character in that book. Mira has some especially interesting observations.

I think summerset is odd lol

Of course he is odd, that is what makes him such a great character.

He is not British. He uses a British accent but has a slight Slavic accent under it, and the last name of his daughter could be Slavic. Don't remember the books that information came from.
It has been indicated more than once that he knows all of Roarke's business and that he could run Roarke Industries. In the early books I thought of him as a major-domo, but in a couple of the later books they used a better term. Can anyone think of it?

http://www.indeath.net/wikiindeath/in...

Ok, Miz has been asking us to name 5 adjectives that some character. I am beating her to the punch. Please Name 5 adjectives that describe Summerset

Loyal, reserved, trustworthy, mysterious and snobby.

I'd say the same, except replace snobby with anal-retentive... ;)

That and more!

I have been rereading some of the in death books and Is his named spelled Sommerset or Summerset?

Summerset with a "u."

Thanks I guess that is another mistake in the typing because in some of the books it is So... instead of Su...

I checked her website and she doesn't mention it but it doesn't mean it didn't happen!

http://www.jdrobb.com/fans/characters...

I love how he can judge Eve's mood by the level if insult lobbed at him.

Like the time Eve lost her job, and she apologized to Summerset, he called Roarke right away because he knew something was wrong.

And later, how Eve, as much as she hates it, will ask Summerset for advice. Like a gift, or food for dinner.

Great chemistry bettween Eve and Summerset.

Does he EVER let up, though? He's so nasty to her in Born In Death. On the otherhand, I suppose even if he does let up she'll probably be quite bewildered and wouldn't know how to handle him then LOL. Just this stick up his ass is bothering me more than usual in this book

There are times he bugs me more than others...when his bite cuts a little deep.

It wouldn't be the same if Eve and Summerset didn't snipe at each other. But they do respect each other on some level.

Who is Lawrence? Don't remember him.

Lawrence is Summerset's first name.

Thank you, Jonetta. I'm sure I have seen it or heard it. It some just did register with me. He's always been SUMMERSET to me.

help! from which book is this scene:
Summerset found out what happened to Eve when she was a kid..I remember Roarke was out somewhere and Eve fell asleep in her office (?) and she had one of those nightmares again. Summerset heard her or something and he met Roarke in the stairs.

Cecile wrote: "help! from which book is this scene:
Summerset found out what happened to Eve when she was a kid..I remember Roarke was out somewhere and Eve fell asleep in her office (?) and she had one of those ..."

It's from Immortal In Death.

Sandra ~ ♥ Cross My Heart ♥ wrote: "Cecile wrote: "help! from which book is this scene:
Summerset found out what happened to Eve when she was a kid..I remember Roarke was out somewhere and Eve fell asleep in her office (?) and she ha..."
thank you :)

I think they’re both equally nasty to each other. I personally think there has to be one person to tell Eve she has flaws and while most of the supporting characters are in her corner, Somerset is the one person who challenges her and reminds her that the world does not revolve around her - he’s the reality check. But there’s an expectation there of banter. I recall one of the books where Somerset tells Rourke that Eve “apologized,” as if that’s the worst thing she could do to him, indicating that she’s not okay, and he should do something. It proves he does care about her but he doesn’t want her to know that. If they’re ever nice to each other, I would think we were in Bizarro World.