Rothfussians discussion

I'm pretty sure it is eleven days.

"...case for eight silver nobles and a span note...I could buy my lute back for the same amount of money, so long as I did it within eleven days."

WMF Ch 53 "The Sheer"

Would anyone like to help me piece together the days which go into a span?

well, i know Kvothe plays at Ankers on Felling night, there's also mourning, so that's 2 of 11

Gaard wrote: "well, i know Kvothe plays at Ankers on Felling night, there's also mourning, so that's 2 of 11"

Thanks. Here are some more of my notes.

3rd Day is ? - is 6 ds before Felling
"Come back in four days. If you are clever enough to keep from tearing out your stitches, I will have you here."
"...the Felling-night crowd that filled the room with a low roar of conversation. My stitches had come out two days earlier..."

4th Day is Shuden - 5 ds earlier than Cendling - "Shuden.The thirty-fifth."

8th Day is Felling - "But on the eighth day Tehlu did not pause to sleep or eat. And thus it was that at the end of Felling Tehlu caught Encanis."

9th Day is Cendling (?) - "But if it was the thirty-fifth then I only had five days to get to the University. I knew from Ben that admissions only lasted until Cendling."
""And which night was that?" Sim pressed.
Manet paused, looking down at his tray. "Felling night?"
Wilem shook his head, muttering something in Siaru.
Simmon looked horrified. "Manet, yesterday was Cendling. Has it beentwo days since you've slept?""

I wonder if this is something pat would answer on a tour stop signing or something? I really would like to know these days. I think they all have to do something with the Tehlu Ecanis story

11.

the story of a span is similar to the story of a week in a sense they're both based off religious stories.

"and on the seventh day god rested"

the spans story is in notw told by Trapis. The one about Tehelu chasing down Encansis and ridding the world of Demons

And now, how many spans does a month contain? And is their month of the same length as ours?

In the end of WMF, a week was mentionned, when Kvothe said he worked on a project for weeks... Are the weeks and spans coextisting in the kingkiller world, and only used in different parts of it?

Mourning, as Gaard mentioned, is in there. It almost seems like our Sunday. Not sure what day of the span it is yet.

7th Day is Caenin - "But on the seventh day, Tehlu drew near before Encanis could bring his power to bear and the seventh city was saved. That is why seven is a lucky number, and why we celebrate on Caenin."

Other names of days are mentionned but not their order.
Anker wanted Kvothe to play on Reaving. I've also got Theden and Orden.

so far we've got Mourning:Sunday, Felling:Saturday, Theden:?, Orden:?, Reaving:Friday?, Caenin:?, Cendling:?, Shuden:?, and then a couple remain un-named, good work guys we'll piece this together yet i know it!

I don't think you can really match them up with the days of our week with the difference in numbering...

Well yeah I know, but I was just trying to give an association... it was basically me just trying to give a reference, obviously we can't associate them too fully to our week being 11 to 7

So did everyone just give up on this, alas we probably named all the named days

I just think that it sank in to obscurity. This site is not the best for keeping threads in the forefront.

There are more days if I remember when Kvothe was speaking with the two girls he rescued after wiping out the fake Edema Ruh. She goes on to talk about a lot of them.

I'm looking for the passages right now.

Here it is.

“What day is it?”
I counted in my head. “Felling.”
“They came into town on Theden.” She paused. “Five days ago?”

So far we have; Day 1 (Mourning?), Day 2, Theden, Shuden, Day 5, Day 6, Caenin, Felling, Cendling, Day 9, Day 10 and Day 11.

In my previous post (message 3) I said that the 3rd day is 6 days before Felling, I think I meant 5 days. Yeah, that's it.

I miss anything else?

Hmmm. Now I've gotten something wrong.

It read: FELLING—NOON. Eighth day of admissions, plenty of time to prepare...She showed me her own small ivory tile. Cendling at fourth bell...Two extra more days of preparation would be a godsend.

Excellent work. I sometimes bookmark things like these when I come to them(on an e reader), but I rarely check the saved notes to put all the pieces together. (I guess I could use that tactic for the currency thread)

I think all this will pick up again once people begin hearing about the third book.

so we have for sure named 8 out of 11 days. and in this order i believe...Mourning(1?), Shuden(4),then some order: theden, Orden, Caenin, then Reaving(7), Felling(8), Cendling(10) so we are missing 3 days, that i don't think have been named.

“There are so many books in the Archives,” Wil said slowly, “that merely reading all the titles would take you a full span.” He paused, looking at me intently. “Eleven full days without pause for food or sleep.”

Is Wil saying that 11 days is less than a span, by saying it can be done in less time if you skip sleep and meal?

Assuming meal is 20 min each, and sleep is 8 hours, it would be 99 hours extra at the end of 11 days. Roughly 15 days. Seems too long.

I think he's saying [1 full span]=[11 days without pause]. It would take more days if one paused to eat and sleep. Excellent find, though.

Gotcha. Thanks!

I know this may be already confirmed but if any doubts linger in the beginning of NotW kvothe says something along the lines of "2 span, 22 days"

In WMF he also says he has a full span to recover his lute from a pawn broker in Severen, 11 days without his lute.

The days of the span are:


Luten
Shuden
Theden
Feochen
Orden
Hepten
Chaen
Felling
Reaving
Cendling
Mourning

source: http://kkc.wikia.com/wiki/Span

Helen wrote: "The days of the span are:


Luten
Shuden
Theden
Feochen
Orden
Hepten
Chaen
Felling
Reaving
Cendling
Mourning

source: http://kkc.wikia.com/wiki/Span"

Boom. Helen just laid down the law, wiki style. Thanks Helen, and to the wiki-er that posted the list.

How come the German edition got that and we didn't? :'(

Appendix to Der Name des Windes

Practical translation

Appendix

Calendar and Currencies

Calendar

The Aturan calendar year consists of eight months: Thaw, Equis, Caitelyn, Solace, Lannis, Reaping, Fallow and Dearth and the final seven days of High Mourning, where the winter solstice is celebrated. The months consist of four "spans" of eleven days.

The days are Luten, Shuden, Theden, Feochen, Orden, Hepten, Chaen, Felling, Reaving, Cendling, and Mourning.

Chaen means, as mentioned in Chapter 12, "seven,” and originally the span ended with this seventh day.

The last four days of the span, added later, have religious and historical significance related to the story told by Trapis in Chapter 23.

Felling “This is the day when Tehlu felled Encanis.”

Reaving The day on which he carried off the demon

Cendling “The day they lit the fire that would burn Encanis.”

Mourning “The day they mourn the death of Tehlu.”

Currencies

The most common currency is the Cealdish. It is closely monitored by the Cealdish authorities and is quite well protected against forgery thanks to cross-border law enforcement agreements. As a stable world trading currency, it is universally recognized and accepted, and in every major city you will find Cealdish money lenders and changers.

Cealdish coins are trapezoidal and therefore, if they are stacked upon one another, they look like small metal ingots.

Their individual values ​​are the shim, the drab, the jot, the talent and the mark. The shim, a coin made ​​of cheap cast iron, does not fall under the Cealdish Coinage Act and may therefore be influenced by anyone. It is only worth as much as the metal from which it is made and, to prevent confusion with a drab, it is marked on one side with an "X".

It is calculated as follows:

11-14 Shims = 1 Iron Drab

10 Iron Drabs = 1 Copper Jot

10 Copper Jots = 1 Silver Talent

10 Silver Talents = 1 Gold Mark

The currency of the Commonwealth, which is mentioned in Tarbean a few times is not even widely recognized in its country of origin, as any major city and every province there has the right to mint its own coins. The common standards are often not met, and the individual cities operate with slightly different weights and degrees of purity. In the regional context that raises no major problems, but the further away you get from the minting of a coin, the more skeptically this money will generally be viewed. This is also the reason why all transactions are processed in good, solid Cealdish currency at the university.

The individual values ​​of the Commonwealth currency are the Iron Penny, the Ha’Penny, the Copper Penny and the Silver Penny.

I finished this last week 'cause, yah, why didn't we get one :-P The original with several footnotes is here. Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate.

Reformatting for goodreads might take awhile.

Thanks loads TP. That's a really awesome summary of it all.

I'm a bit surprised that Pat came out and defined it all so easily.

easily one of my top 5 fav chapters in the books. " the burning wheel " . i cant even say the words to put any of this series into justice. the chapter names themselves are proper smashing awesome in their own right. what a genius.
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