Fallen discussion

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Fallen was boring. Very very boring. The last bit was interesting, but not intersting enough for me to stick with the series. Besides, I'm sick to death of love triangles. Would it kill YA authors to write a series where the main character falls in love with a character and stays with that character the rest of the series? Or even better, doesn't fall madly in love a character because frankly sixteen and seventeen year olds falling truly, madly, and deeply in love feels kind of silly to me.

I like Twilight more because it's fun. It's stupid, the writing is bad, the prose is so purple the book practically leaks plum juice, the dialogue is stiff and unnatural, the plot is barely there and doesn't make sense half the time, Bella and most of her supernatural amigos are Mary Sues, and all of characters feel more like parodies of stock paranormal romance characters than actual characters. In the end it's so bad it's good. I laughed, I laughed so hard I cried, and sometimes I wanted to hit my face against the wall because of the stupidity, but at least it got a reaction out of me, which is more than Fallen got.

Molly wrote: "Fallen was boring. Very very boring. The last bit was interesting, but not intersting enough for me to stick with the series. Besides, I'm sick to death of love triangles. Would it kill YA authors ..."

Morganville Vampires! No love triangles. But I'd actually kill for one! I'm on book 10. One more comes out this year and one next year. It's a great, fun series. You never know what's going to happen and it's always exciting in Morganville. You should check it out.

★ Kimi ★ wrote: "Molly wrote: "Fallen was boring. Very very boring. The last bit was interesting, but not intersting enough for me to stick with the series. Besides, I'm sick to death of love triangles. Would it ki..."

I've heard good things about that series. I think I'll look it up once I finally get my hands on the other two books I've been waiting to read. Being a broke has wreaked havoc on my reading list.

lol I feel you Molly!

Twilight is better than Fallen. Fallen over all is boring. The first book was ok. Hw second book was ok. The third was bad. Twilight had bad concepts but I felt connect between the characters that I didn't feel with Fallen. Usually I stick a series out to the bitter end, but I will not read book four of the fallen series unless it's free and I have absolutely nothing else to read.

I prefer Fallen to Twilight. As fantasy novels, Fallen defeats Twilight easily. Twilight might bring the romance out nicely but it sucks as a fantasy novel....:)

In all honesty: they're both nice reads but it's not literature... Someone here commented that Stephenie Meyer uses big words. Sorry? I'm Dutch and I had no trouble understanding anything. But big words don't make it literature. Both book series are easy to read, they tell their stories but they don't do it in all too poetic sentences.

If I had to choose I'd go for the Fallen series I think. Because they keep improving, the plot is actually going somewhere, the books give more variation. Which Twilight could've used too, desperately. It's not until 'Breaking Dawn' Twilight gets better, Bella stops being the dependent girl and finally starts to live.

And why is everybody talking about the love-triangle in Twilight? If you've READ the books, you know Bella's thoughts on Jacob. He's a friend to her. If you've ever been in love, you know your heart only wants one thing, and this is not the era you have to settle for a loveless but sensible marriage. I actually felt along with Bella, experiencing my first love over again, feeling depressed when things didn't go the way I hoped.

'Fallen (1)' was kind of looong, it didn't pick up its pace until the end, when things got epic. 'Torment' was better, Luce started working on her newly discovered powers, no matter how stupid that might have been. At least she didn't sit around and wait for her hero to come home and rescue her. (I hate to admit that *I* probably would've sat and waited too, when I was 17, but I like Luces's style better.) In 'Passion' many things happen, I loved looking into all of Luce's former lives. I would've done the same. And now she finally really understands her feelings and can accept that it'll always be Daniel she wants. It feels more mature than Bella's unhealthy, clingy crush.

So apart from the teen girl headsubjects in the books (honestly: ALL YA books have teen girls in them!) and their crushes on 'supernatural guys' (Again: most of these books are about vampires and angels, it's the trend. You know that beforehand when you choose to read this book) I don't think these books should be compared.

What's next, we're gonna compare the 'Fallen' books to the 'Hush Hush' series too then???

Oh and if you wanna read a *properly* written book, of an author who takes your reading skills seriously: try 'Clockwork Angel' by Cassandra Clare. It's about vampires, people who can change, demonhunters, angels, etc. Set in Victorian England.

Molly wrote: "Fallen was boring. Very very boring. The last bit was interesting, but not intersting enough for me to stick with the series. Besides, I'm sick to death of love triangles. Would it kill YA authors ..."

sometimes i wanted to hit my face against the wall. ahaaaaahaaaaa

Fallen!!!

Twilight hands down. <3 Even if it does has certain things about it, its still a great series, if it was'nt the book would'nt have sold so many copies...

Nurlely wrote: "I wonder why it is even Saga? What is so Saga about Twilight?"

LOL!

Totally Fallen....Twilight is just....I only read it because it was d only book dat every1 seem 2 b recommendin 2 me at dat tym!

Mandy wrote: "What's next, we're gonna compare the 'Fallen' books to the 'Hush Hush' series too then??? "

I also think it is funny to keep comparing books, but we share the funny act by serving the question with our answers...:)

Nurlely wrote: "Mandy wrote: "What's next, we're gonna compare the 'Fallen' books to the 'Hush Hush' series too then??? "

I also think it is funny to keep comparing books, but we share the funny act by serving th..."

I actually asked this exact question! but because I was interested, not for fun, or anything...

AHAHAHAHA!! I love what you said!!
No offense to those who love Twilight, but I thought Edward was sort of gay.

I think Fallen is way better. I just don't understand why Daniel falls for the same person with varying personalities.. I didn't really like the Helston version of Luce

i would have to say fallen

i love twilight cause jacob is my favorit charector but fallen beats twilight in my book

team jasper

im team jacob

DEfinitally Fallen. Twilight is just way to teen girl drama type of sceen. So is Fallen, but at least Fallen has some class and taste to it.

Jazzmine wrote: "DEfinitally Fallen. Twilight is just way to teen girl drama type of sceen. So is Fallen, but at least Fallen has some class and taste to it."

Well put Miss Hobbs

*Rose* wrote: "Jazzmine wrote: "DEfinitally Fallen. Twilight is just way to teen girl drama type of sceen. So is Fallen, but at least Fallen has some class and taste to it."

Well put Miss Hobbs"

Thank you. I try :)

What bugs me is the more I think about this, the less I like either of them... I'm feeling like I want to go back to my reviews and change the ratings...

The more I think about Fallen, I remain stick to my high rating but the more I think about how weird the fantasy world in Twilight, I tend to pull out one star from my review...:)

I love them both...they both have different things that I like about them. What i like about Twilight is the whole Vampire history and Edward, of course. :-) What i love about Fallen is the evil vs good and love conquers all plot. As a Twifan I can't believe I'm about to say this but...if I had to chose I would chose the Fallen series. These books have more action and i love the whole history behind Luce and Daniel, it would be interesting to see if portrayed in movies (hopefully it won't be destroyed)

They would be the same is Edward didn't sound so stupid and if the twilight vampires sounded more like actual vampires. The hard stone skin, not breathing and even not sucking human blood or what ever, those things I can believe but stupid things like he sparkles and crap make it a girly little book. Add more blood and gore and I would probably like it more.

Then Read the Hunger games Dum Dumb Like i've been telling you for like a million years

*Rose* wrote: "Then Read the Hunger games Dum Dumb Like i've been telling you for like a million years"

I said I would read it!!
Gahh!! Fine I'll read it before I read Torment. Be like that, Your just jealous about being a Weenie!!

What about Hunger Games? How does Hunger Games relate to the messy fantasy in Twilight?

Read up more? then you might understand how the hunger games got brought into this.

Ohh...it will be to many to read...:(

I love Hunger Games and Fallen. Hunger Games is a very good dystopia novel and I love the angel-human story in Fallen. Twilight is a good romance novel with awful fantay world. Such a messy vampire story.

I would say Twilight. I enjoy Fallen and even though the story lines are similar I find that I am more emotionally attached to the characters in Twilight.

EWWWWW Twilight. It would be good if they didn't screw up on the actually fanstasy of vampires.

Nurlely wrote: "What about Hunger Games? How does Hunger Games relate to the messy fantasy in Twilight?"

Hunger games was brought in because Jazz likes more Bloody gore kinda books. So I told her to read the hunger games<3

*Rose* wrote: "Hunger games was brought in because Jazz likes more Bloody gore kinda books. So I told her to read the hunger games<3"

Oh...okay. Perhaps I enjoyed reading Hunger Games too much I did not have the series related to a bloody gore kind. I think the baby part (pregnancy & delivering) in Twilight is worse.

Haha that's true. I honestly don't want to see how they portray that part in the movie...That's way to Vampire for my taste...Blechk

I think they have to be careful with the movie. I can not imagine having teenagers watching the Bella-to-be-vampire process. She was totally naked and Edward was biting her skin. It will be an awful scene for young audiences.

That is probably going to be one of the things the change in the movie from the book though.

Too true

FALLEN!!!
i read all three of them and i cant wait untill RAPTURE comes out.....: )

*Rose* wrote: "Haha that's true. I honestly don't want to see how they portray that part in the movie...That's way to Vampire for my taste...Blechk"

I figured they do a fade to black or have a lot of close ups of the various characters faces as they run around looking panicked, distressed, worried, and determined, kind of like in those hospital dramas on TV.

Hmm I didn't think about it like that..
Gosh Molly your too Smart!

*Rose* wrote: "Hmm I didn't think about it like that..
Gosh Molly your too Smart!"

Thanks!

I don't see how else they could have the scene be even remotely close to the book without doing something like that. At least not without seriously pressing the rating.

Fallen series is truly fantasy while Twilight should never be called fantasy series. The fantasy is messy. Too many flaws. And no one ever answered my question of why the heck the series called Saga?

This is really asking which is the best of a bad lot. Twilight is angsty and Fallen drags on and on. It could be at least 200 pages shorter in my opinion. The one thing i will say is that the other chracters in Fallen (bar Luce and Daniel) are actually interesting, which is why i prefer it

Twilight carries on and on. Why don't they just kill Bella of..The end :))

Wooooo it's not the same!!!!!!
Twilight was veeery Good..
New Moon was hmm.....dramatically boring...
Eclipse was so and so...
and Breaking Dawn was wow!!!!
Fallen and Torment (i read those only) are reeeeally cool but sth annoys me...maybe daniel that pains luce..
I'll have to choose fallen (it seems more "reality') though i'm thinking right now of VA and Mortal Instruments!

Jazz wrote: "Twilight carries on and on. Why don't they just kill Bella of..The end :))"

LOL because then Edward would be sad and depressed. He'd try to kill himself and then I'd be sad!

Nurlely wrote: "Fallen series is truly fantasy while Twilight should never be called fantasy series. The fantasy is messy. Too many flaws. And no one ever answered my question of why the heck the series called Saga?"

No idea why it's called a Saga! lol