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Sugar Daddy, by Lisa Kleypas
Series: Travises, book #1

Lisa Kleypas has enthralled millions of readers with her powerfully seductive novels. Now she delivers a story featuring her most unforgettable characters yet...

SHE'S FROM THE WRONG SIDE OF THE TRACKS
Liberty Jones has dreams and determination that will take her far away from Welcome, Texas---if she can keep her wild heart from ruling her mind. Hardy Cates sees Liberty as completely off-limits. His own ambitions are bigger than Welcome, and Liberty Jones is a complication he doesn't need. But something magical and potent draws them to each other, in a dangerous attraction that is stronger than both of them.
 
HE'S THE ONE MAN SHE CAN'T HAVE
When Hardy leaves town to pursue his plans, Liberty finds herself alone with a young sister to raise. Soon Liberty finds herself under the spell of a billionaire tycoon---a Sugar Daddy, one might say. But the relationship goes deeper than people think, and Liberty begins to discover secrets about her own family's past.
 
WILL THEY FIND THEIR HEARTS' DESIRES OR WILL HEARTBREAK TEAR THEM APART?
Two men. One woman. A choice that can make her or break her. A woman you'll root for every step of the way. A love story you'll never forget.

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Sans, Jill and I are planning another "Buddy Read" by one of my favorite authors. Start date set for October 17, 2011.

EXPECT SPOILERS!

Feel free to join us. We will be posting discussion questions. You can volunteer to post some, just chose to answer them (some or all), or even stop by to say "Hi!"

Date		Chapters			PPDQs*

10/17/11 Chapters 1- 3 (51 pgs) Lisa Kay
10/18/11 Chapters 4 – 6 (40 pgs) Sans
10/19/11 Chapters 7 – 9 (47 pgs) Lisa Kay
10/20/11 Chapters 10 – 13** (54 pgs) Lisa Kay
10/21/11 Chapters 14 – 16 (62 pgs) Lisa Kay
10/22/11 Chapters 17 – 19 (56 pgs) Jill
10/23/11 Chapters 20 - 22 (46 pgs)
10/24/11 Chapters 23 - Epilogue (48 pgs)

PPDQs* means Person Posting Discussion Questions

**4 chapters instead of 3!!


Lisa Kay’s Questions for Chapters 1- 3

1. Was it just me, or did the opening line of Sugar Daddy grab you? Do you have a personal childhood experience of not understanding death or separation?

2. What do you think of the title of this book? What is the significance of it and Liberty Jones starting off talking about the lack of a father in her life?

3. What is your impression of Diana Jones? What about Liberty’s relationship with her beautiful mother? Did any one thing stand out about her?

4. Did you get a real feeling or sense of adolescent attraction between Hardy and Liberty? Was their dialogue believable? Was there anything you found especially memorable?

5. What is your impression of Louise Sadlek, the trailer park owner? Filp, Diana’s boyfriend? Which one is the superior – for lack of a better word – “catch,” per say?

6. Was it easy for you to imagine the conversation that took place between Miss Marva and Liberty’s mother over the dress she made? What archetypal role is Miss Marva providing for Liberty?

7. First person POV is not my favorite. You? Does it give you more of a sense of knowing Liberty better?

8. People argue over whether or not this is a chick-lit book or a contemporary romance; what is your opinion so far?


Sans' questions for Chapters 4-6

9. "If you've been kissed even once, I'd be amazed." That sounds incredibly cruel to me. Why would he say that?

10. Quite the transformation with that little makeover at Bowie's, but it makes me sad how much emphasis is placed on a girl's appearance alone. How old were you when you had your first major makeover?

11. Basketball. Fascinating. And teenage romance. How is this comparing to any YA books you've read?

12. As first kisses go, that was pretty good. But I'm concerned Hardy is going to be a teenage obsession that lasts the rest of Liberty's life. I know you both have read this before, but what were your thoughts the first time you read this? And why didn't Hardy think to ask Liberty to come with him? Why assume she'd want to stay in Welcome the rest of her life?

13. Looks like Diana isn't so thrilled about the baby. Has she even held it yet?


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Lisa Kay’s Questions for Chapters 7 – 9

14. In chapter 7, the math homework scene, what did you think of Hardy telling Liberty he would do anything and that staying away from her was for her too? Is it also for him?

15. Well, Diana is on antidepressants. What do you think of post-partum depression and the use of chemicals to change your mood?

16. What do you think of Liberty giving her virginity to Luke? How much of a catalyst was seeing Hardy with the blond girl to this action? (You can answer in percentage, if you desire.) Did she learn nothing when she was disappointed that Luke’s kisses were nothing like Hardy’s? Is this a good example of why teenage sex is fraught with impulsive decision-making?

17. What is the significance of Liberty putting Carrington in her bed after that disastrous experience with Luke? She has established a pattern here, in more ways than one.

18. Well, I knew Louise Sadlek was going to reappear. Ugh! And Diana is showing an interest; what does this say about Diana’s state of mind?

19. Does understanding Hardy’s background give you any insight into his reasoning for resisting his softer feelings for Liberty?

20. Have you ever experienced a situation where a non-sexual act was somehow more intimate than a sexual act?

21. Were you happy that Liberty finally told Hardy off? Did you cringe over some of it? Were you surprised that he said she was his?

22. “But I’ve never regretted the things I said nearly as much as the words I left unspoken.” Do you have unspoken words you regret keeping to yourself?


Lisa Kay’s Questions for Chapters 10 – 13

23. “The sight of a sullen teenager is common no matter where you go. Teenagers want things so powerfully and can never seem to get them, and to add insult to injury, people make light of your feelings because you’re a teenager.” I love the opening sentences to Chapter 10. So true, IMHO. Were you sullen at times as a teenager?

24. Diana’s relationship with Louis Sadlek was so sad; especially since she almost got away, breaking it off with him right before the end. You could see this woman slowly deteriorate. Comments. What about Liberty’s comment about their relationship being pleasure vs. punishment.

25. Were you surprised by the death of Diana? Where you suspicious about who really paid for the Monet casket? Who was in that black limo and what about the roses? Not to mention the suddenly additional place for another scholarship applicant.

26. What do you think about Liberty excitement about being a hair stylist? Should her goals be higher? Or do you admire her desire to elevate herself and her work ethic?

27. Did you think the scene about the scratchy legs was cute? What about their having no insurance and Carrington’s croup scare? What is Liberty giving up for her sister? Do you admire her or think she should turn Carrington over to someone better equipped to take care of her?

28. How do you feel about people who settle for “second best” with regards to their love life?

29. Before people assumed Carrington was Liberty’s and she had her “too young.” Now they think Liberty is Carrington’s nanny. Is this an inconsistence in Kleypas’ writing – or just that now people can see the obvious differences between the two of them (and know nothing about genetics)?

30. Thoughts about the date with Mike? Carrington’s “lucky penny” scene? Are they due for some luck?


Lisa Kay’s Questions for Chapters 14 -16

31. What did you think of Churchill Travis? Did Kleypas paint a clear enough picture of his character? What do you think about the relationship that has developed between him and Liberty? Did her initial relaxed nature around him seem believable?

32. What are your theories about the relationship Churchill has to Liberty? To Carrington?

33. What was you impression of Tom Hudson? What about the sex? Did Angie’s 68 analogy crack you up? How about the way that Liberty broke it off; was it smart to do it on his turf? If you broke up with someone in the past, did you ever plan the logistics like that?

34. What did you think of Gretchen? Do you think Churchill was really being ignored?

35. Were you surprised Churchill offered Liberty a job work for him? Could you understand her desire for an insurance card? What about her moving into his home?

36. How did you think Liberty and Churchill’s children interacted? What about Gage? What did you think of just Dawnelle?

37. Have you ever been in a social situation where you felt “outclassed?” Did you take a deep breath and shake yourself out of it? Do you think Liberty held her own, despite – or because of – her honesty?

38. What do you think of the interaction between Churchill and Carrington? Is it believable that Churchill could look back on that “road not taken” with his children?

39. Whoa, baby! How about Liberty and Gage’s confrontation? He’s a tad arrogant, right? Good thing she learned not to run from pit-bulls, even if they are “kennel-bred, pedigreed.”

40. Did you like Mr. Ferguson’s advice to Liberty? If so, what part rang truest? What would you do in Liberty’s situation?


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Jill's Questions for Chapters 17-19

41. Gage. *sigh* I have no idea really why he's so arrogant and nasty initially. But I find him intriguing. Ever met a guy like this in real life?

42. What were your thoughts when you (first) read the part where Gage sees the picture of Diana? Did you know why he acts this way?

43. These chapters mark a real change in the book for me with Gage taking centre-stage for the first time. What did you think of Gage supplanting Hardy as the hero?

44. Carrington is taken with Gage (as I am). Why is that when she was so stand-offish with most men before?

45. The Kiss. On my goodness. Can this author write a scene or what? Please tell me your thoughts on the kiss in the butler's pantry. *pant,pant*

46. Almost immediately after this Gage takes off to see Just Dawnelle. *shudders* What did you make of that (when you first read it)? Is he trying to just avoid Liberty or is there more to it?


Lisa Kay’s Questions for Chapters 20 – 22

47. What did you think of everyone’s complicity in the dinner set-up between Gage and Liberty? Did you see it coming? Who was the most obvious, the sneakiest?

48. I know it drove us crazy at the time, but were you impressed that Gage broke up with Just Dawnelle in person instead of over the phone (or – God forbid – text message)?

49. “I realized right away nothing was going on. I figured any man who slept with you would never let you out of his bed.” What did you think about Gage’s “provocative” statement? Is this foreshadowing?

50. “I just want to make sure you’ve lowered your expectations.” What emotions were you feeling when Liberty told Gage she was bad in bed? Did you think Gage handled that declaration well?

51. What was your favorite line from the whole seduction/bedroom scene?

52. Hardy! No need to comment further, unless you want to; I already know the effect that name had on you – and me!

53. Were you surprised that Hardy had gone to Marva to try and find Liberty?

54. “Darlin’… I know what you look like when you’ve been kissed.” What did you think of Gage’s statement. Direct yet gentle?

55. Were you surprised Liberty disclosed so much about Hardy to Gage? What about this statement: “Don’t,” Gage said, his calmness vanishing. “I’d do almost anything for you. I think I’d kill for you. But I’m not going to comfort you while you cry in my arms over another man.”

56. What did you think of the limo sex? ☺ What kind of sex do you call that? Not exactly angry sex or make-up sex, was it.

57. Were you surprised Gage wanted Liberty to see Hardy? Sans sex, of course. Was that a smart move?


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Lisa Kay’s Questions for Chapters 23 – Epilogue

58. Churchill and Vivian in a brawl? Whoa. Comments?

59. Did you like Liberty setting boundaries with Churchill when he started about her about her love life? What about when she did open up to him a bit? Was this a contradiction?

60. What did you think of the horseback riding with Hardy? Were you surprised Gage was at the house when then got back? Do you get the feeling that Hardy and Gage understood each other better than Liberty did either one of them? Comments on their interaction?

61. Did you know that Liberty let something slip when she was talking about the biofuel to Hardy? Or later was it all a total surprise.

62. What about the private investigator? Did that blow you out of the water?

63. What did you think when Hardy told her about Diana and Churchill’s affair? Were you doubtful – even for a minute – about Carrington’s paternity? Did you believe Hardy or think he was trying to sway Liberty?

64. What about Liberty’s confrontation with Gage? Were you surprised she went to his apartment? Was his “giving” and not receiving in the bedroom significant at that crisis point in their relationship?

65. And next she takes on Churchill; and he tells her about his history with her mother. “I went after her with everything I had.” Comments on Churchill’s relationship with Diana.

66. At that point were you surprised that Carrington was NOT Churchill’s or did you know him better by then?

67. Could you blame Liberty for being angry at Churchill over the scholarship to the beauty school?

68. So now you know that Gage followed his dad once when he went to meet Diana. Does that answer your question about why he treated Liberty the way he did at the beginning?

69. And last, but not least, she takes on Hardy! Whoa. This girl has cojones, right? Did Hardy have a valid point about the biofuel being just a little deal to Gage? Were you disappointed in Hardy? What did you think of his parting words?

70. This woman is on a mission. Next she is off to see Gage again. Would you have gone to such lengths if you had the resources? Were you happy about Gage’s faith in Liberty?

71. I want a ranchette! Comments on the epilogue and who she ended up with.


Jill’s Overview Questions about Sugar Daddy for Lisa Kay

1. Sugar Daddy is set in 1991 (I think) at the beginning of the book. (It mentions the first Gulf War on television.) Why do you think Lisa Kleypas set her contemporary back then?

2. How do you feel about Lisa Kleypas setting Sugar Daddy up with two heroes? (You already know my feelings.)

3. Have you ever been to Houston? Or maybe Texas?

4. Does the way LK describes Texas do it justice? (If you know that is.)

5. She describes Texas men quite vividly. Do you know if Texans are really as she describes them? Are they different to other American men? And do they all say “Darlin’”?

6. How do you compare Hardy and Gage? Do they come across as two totally different, well-developed characters to you? Who's your favourite and why?

7. What is it about Sugar Daddy that resonates with you so completely?

8. Are you as enthralled with the other books in this series?


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Reserved.


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Are we still planing this to start tomorrow?


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Okay, I posted the chapter breakdown... I just went for it all at the end; let me know if that is too much. It will be the week-end.


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Please note that the chapters were changed from 4/day to 3/day. Questions posted above.


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Edited my last comment to say the questions were posted, then thought maybe editing wouldn't trigger an e-mail to you ladies. So, I'm posting this one, just to let you know they are there. ☺


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Sans Sans answers for Chapters 1- 3

1. Was it just me, or did the opening line of Sugar Daddy grab you? Do you have a personal childhood experience of not understanding death or separation?

Not particularly. It sounded a bit melodramatic to me. Nope, only death in my childhood was pets from old age.

2. What do you think of the title of this book? What is the significance of it and Liberty Jones starting off talking about the lack of a father in her life?
A tad disturbing.

3. What is your impression of Diana Jones? What about Liberty’s relationship with her beautiful mother? Did any one thing stand out about her?
She sounds better than a lot of women one hears about in similar situations. Can't figure out if she's got a Sugar Daddy of her own or if she's just prostituting herself.

4. Did you get a real feeling or sense of adolescent attraction between Hardy and Liberty? Was their dialogue believable? Was there anything you found especially memorable?
Liberty sounded like a typical shy girl. I'm not convinced she's actually 14 or 15 though, she sounds more like she's 9 or 10. Nothing really memorable so far.

5. What is your impression of Louise Sadlek, the trailer park owner? Filp, Diana’s boyfriend? Which one is the superior – for lack of a better word – “catch,” per say?
Disgusting on both counts. I can't imagine ever being lonely enough to deal with either of them. Oh, jeeze. Please don't tell me Diana is selling herself to Sadlek for extra cash.

6. Was it easy for you to imagine the conversation that took place between Miss Marva and Liberty’s mother over the dress she made? What archetypal role is Miss Marva providing for Liberty?
Not really and not sure.

7. First person POV is not my favorite. You? Does it give you more of a sense of knowing Liberty better?
It really only works for me in urban fantasy. Otherwise, it's too...conceited sounding is the only way I can describe it right now.

8. People argue over whether or not this is a chick-lit book or a contemporary romance; what is your opinion so far?
Chick-lit. And I really don't like chick-lit.


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Sans Sorry if I sound like a grumpy gus. Stayed home with a migraine this morning and my mood isn't the best. I'll post questions for tomorrow.


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Sans wrote: "Sorry if I sound like a grumpy gus. Stayed home with a migraine this morning and my mood isn't the best. I'll post questions for tomorrow."

Sorry you are not feeling well, Sans! Also sorry, but I did pick up your tone from your answers and (sorry again) they made me laugh.


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments @ Sans

#1 - Lucky you!

#2 - I loathe the title of this book.

#7 - Yes, it does give off the conceit quality. I did like Mercy Thompson in Moon Called; but then again, that is UF.

#8 - No a big fan of chick-lit myself.


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Jill wrote: "Lisa Kay, I've read the first 3 chapters and will get to answer the questions later in the morning - it's 7.00am here. Just thought I'd let you know because of the time difference that I'm here and..."

Okay, Jill!


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Sans wrote: "Sorry if I sound like a grumpy gus. Stayed home with a migraine this morning and my mood isn't the best. I'll post questions for tomorrow."

Thanks, Sans!


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Sans Sans' questions for chapters 4-6

9.
"If you've been kissed even once, I'd be amazed." That sounds incredibly cruel to me. Why would he say that?

10. Quite the transformation with that little makeover at Bowie's, but it makes me sad how much emphasis is placed on a girl's appearance alone. How old were you when you had your first major makeover?

11. Basketball. Fascinating. And teenage romance. How is this comparing to any YA books you've read?

12. As first kisses go, that was pretty good. But I'm concerned Hardy is going to be a teenage obsession that lasts the rest of Liberty's life. I know you both have read this before, but what were your thoughts the first time you read this? And why didn't Hardy think to ask Liberty to come with him? Why assume she'd want to stay in Welcome the rest of her life?

13. Looks like Diana isn't so thrilled about the baby. Has she even held it yet?



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Sans Nice to "meet" you too, Jill!


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Sans Sans' answers for chapters 4-6

9.
"If you've been kissed even once, I'd be amazed." That sounds incredibly cruel to me. Why would he say that?
She's not a troll or anything. Unless Hardy thinks she's 10 years old like we do?

10. Quite the transformation with that little makeover at Bowie's, but it makes me sad how much emphasis is placed on a girl's appearance alone. How old were you when you had your first major makeover?
I was in 9th grade, got a sleek bob cut and my mom bought me some make up from one of the counters at Macy's.

11. Basketball. Fascinating. And teenage romance. How is this comparing to any YA books you've read?
The tone of this really is more like pre-teen romance so far. Not what I was expecting.

12. As first kisses go, that was pretty good. But I'm concerned Hardy is going to be a teenage obsession that lasts the rest of Liberty's life. I know you both have read this before, but what were your thoughts the first time you read this? And why didn't Hardy think to ask Liberty to come with him? Why assume she'd want to stay in Welcome the rest of her life?
Thinking he's just too selfish to want to take care of someone else.

13. Looks like Diana isn't so thrilled about the baby. Has she even held it yet?
It sure wasn't planned, so I'm not surprised she isn't thrilled about it. Still, she should at least want to form some kind of attachment to it, right?


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Sans' questions for Chapters 4-6

9. "If you've been kissed even once, I'd be amazed." That sounds incredibly cruel to me. Why would he say that?
Huh. I didn’t even look at it as being cruel; just as him considering her terribly innocent.

10. Quite the transformation with that little makeover at Bowie's, but it makes me sad how much emphasis is placed on a girl's appearance alone. How old were you when you had your first major makeover?
Yes. But Liberty was very much a caterpillar to butterfly metamorphosis. I think I was about 13 and sneaking make-up from my friends to put on at school. My mother – who didn’t wear anything but lipstick – flipped. But, being the type of mother she was, she took the bull by the proverbial horns and dragged my ass down to Merle Norman Cosmetics. There I learned how to care for my completion and apply make-up appropriate for every occasion. I eventually went to work for them, years later. I even thought of getting into make-up for movies, way before it became the mega-industry it is now.

11. Basketball. Fascinating. And teenage romance. How is this comparing to any YA books you've read?
I haven’t read any YA books, except for fantasy, so couldn’t say. Well, I read mysteries when I was a YA.

12. As first kisses go, that was pretty good. But I'm concerned Hardy is going to be a teenage obsession that lasts the rest of Liberty's life. I know you both have read this before, but what were your thoughts the first time you read this? And why didn't Hardy think to ask Liberty to come with him? Why assume she'd want to stay in Welcome the rest of her life?
I liked the kiss. **swoons** But, I think you are right. Hardy is her first major crush – and, really, it is more than a crush. I was brokenhearted that Hardy didn’t ask – nor hint around – about Liberty going with him… but he wanted his freedom in so many ways; and they both are so terribly young. Plus, there is Carrington. (view spoiler)

13. Looks like Diana isn't so thrilled about the baby. Has she even held it yet?
Yes, Diana is definitely letting Liberty take over the role of surrogate mother. Liberty has her own sense of guilty over that too.


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments @ Jill

#1 – I was adopted at 4 ½ years of age along with my older brother. I had a younger sister who died as a toddler. I also had a younger brother that – I thought – was adopted into another family (but he really was put in foster care). So, I know a bit about loss and abandonment.

#2 – Yes, I agree with you, Jill. Under different circumstances, I think Diana would have been a better mother.

#4 – LOL! Trollope!

#5 – Yeah, if you put a gun to my head, I’d pick Flip too.

#6 – Yes, love anyone who would name her pit bulls by those names. My grandmother wasn’t quite like that, even sans dogs.

#7 – I would say that GoodReads has broadened my first person reading b/c of all the wonderful recs.


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments @ Sans

#9 - She’s not a troll or anything. LOL! True! You make me laugh, Sans.

#12 – Yes. Hardy is a bit selfish.

#13 – I would think so. But she can also see that Liberty is filling that maternal role. Why she is letting her do that? Good question.


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments If you want and can do them, Jill. I don't know your schedule. Otherwise, I can go another round and you can do the week-end.


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments @ Jill

#11 - I have to say I didn't read YA when I was a YA either. I didn't even get into romances until my 20s.


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Yes, Jill, my younger brother found me via the Internet several years ago. He had a very sad childhood, which broke my heart. However, he is a wonderful person. Very sweet. He doesn't have as much education as I do, which is sad, but makes me very grateful for mine. He is much more religious than I am. He has a very kind and has a loving wife (older than him, and not as sweet - more feisty) and son in the military - and a brand new grandchild. But, you know, I think he is happier than I am.

I do remember finding and reading my older brother’s James Bond series – which I thought were really risqué. ☺ I plan to re-read them for the lifetime challenge, and to see if I consider them as naughty as I did then, LOL!

I’ll be glad to do tomorrow’s questions. No problem.


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Sean Connery is my absolute fav, with Pierce Brosnan coming in pretty close second as the years pass by. I enjoyed Roger Moore a lot and thought he was funny, but he wasn't "James Bond" to me, really. He was tongue-in-cheek, but not talk-dark-handsome enough for me. I think Pierce Brosnan did the tongue-in-cheek a bit better. I always laugh when I see George Lazenby b/c I can't help remembering that Diana Rigg despised him and would eat tons of garlic b/f their kissing scenes. LOL!


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments I think I might not have read as many YA books as younger people b/c there weren't a lot of YA books in my day. I've read more as an adult and sinse I joined GRs.


Lisarenee | 7659 comments Loved Sugar Daddy.


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Lisa Kay’s Questions for Chapters 7 – 9

14. In chapter 7, the math homework scene, what did you think of Hardy telling Liberty he would do anything and that staying away from her was for her too? Is it also for him?

15. Well, Diana is on antidepressants. What do you think of post-partum depression and the use of chemicals to change your mood?

16. What do you think of Liberty giving her virginity to Luke? How much of a catalyst was seeing Hardy with the blond girl to this action? (You can answer in percentage, if you desire.) Did she learn nothing when she was disappointed that Luke’s kisses were nothing like Hardy’s? Is this a good example of why teenage sex is fraught with impulsive decision-making?

17. What is the significance of Liberty putting Carrington in her bed after that disastrous experience with Luke? She has established a pattern here, in more ways than one.

18. Well, I knew Louise Sadlek was going to reappear. Ugh! And Diana is showing an interest; what does this say about Diana’s state of mind?

19. Does understanding Hardy’s background give you any insight into his reasoning for resisting his softer feelings for Liberty?

20. Have you ever experienced a situation where a non-sexual act was somehow more intimate than a sexual act?

21. Were you happy that Liberty finally told Hardy off? Did you cringe over some of it? Were you surprised that he said she was his?

22. “But I’ve never regretted the things I said nearly as much as the words I left unspoken.” Do you have unspoken words you regret keeping to yourself?


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments @ Jill

#14 – True. He knows that deep down inside. So, his chance at freedom is more important.

#15 – Of course, I prefer the natural method of elevating depression (fresh air, sunshine, exercise, loving emotional support, and an extremely healthy diet); however, I think PPD is a very real issue and problem. Despite what Tom Cruise says, sometimes a woman needs meds. But they should be in conjunction with the other things I listed, plus professional counseling and NO alcohol!

#16 – Yes, I can see why you bailed there. It was a pretty rough scene and doesn’t paint Liberty is the best light. She was so young though, and I can see a kid in today’s era doing that, even one with a good head on her shoulders. I was pretty boy-crazy in my day (no, just one boy at a time). Hormones. LOL! Love your comment about teenagers. Hindsight is a perfect 20/20 score.

#19 – You would think! Still, I point to his age again.

#20 – I liked that scene. The right person makes all the difference in the world. Sometimes people just connect on a different level.

#22 - **Lisa Kay sits with a big grin and a warm fuzzy feeling.** Ah, Jill, that is so nice to hear. I appreciate yours too. ☺


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments ☺ Great! It will be a mystery, then!


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Sans Sans' answers for Chapters 7 – 9

14. In chapter 7, the math homework scene, what did you think of Hardy telling Liberty he would do anything and that staying away from her was for her too? Is it also for him?

I've mixed feelings. I understand he's trying to protect her, but he's also teasing her with moments like that.

15. Well, Diana is on antidepressants. What do you think of post-partum depression and the use of chemicals to change your mood?
Most of my family is either on meds or in need of them (same for several of my friends) and I've seen what happens when they're not on them. Not pretty. I say if it helps, do it. Why live your life in misery if you don't have to. I feel much the same way about vodka and tequila.

16. What do you think of Liberty giving her virginity to Luke? How much of a catalyst was seeing Hardy with the blond girl to this action? (You can answer in percentage, if you desire.) Did she learn nothing when she was disappointed that Luke’s kisses were nothing like Hardy’s? Is this a good example of why teenage sex is fraught with impulsive decision-making?
A very foolish thing to do, but very understandable. Seeing Hardy make out with that chick was definitely the game changer on her virginity. Speaking from experience, you don't think about things like that when you're in the moment. You're just so desperate to feel wanted that you're willing to hurt yourself in the attempts to belong to someone. And even when you know it'll never work, you keep hoping this time will be different. And who's to say teenagers have the market cornered when it comes to bad decisions on sex? I was 20 when I lost my "virginity" and have made nothing but mistakes in the last 10 years. If it happened when I was a teenager, I wouldn't have been any better or worse off.

17. What is the significance of Liberty putting Carrington in her bed after that disastrous experience with Luke? She has established a pattern here, in more ways than one.
Co-dependency ahoy!

18. Well, I knew Louise Sadlek was going to reappear. Ugh! And Diana is showing an interest; what does this say about Diana’s state of mind?
She's cracked.

19. Does understanding Hardy’s background give you any insight into his reasoning for resisting his softer feelings for Liberty?
None at all. He sounds like he's more than willing to play nice with any ole hussy, but if he actually cares about someone he'll break them? I'm not buying it. He's just scared and taking a cowardly way out.

20. Have you ever experienced a situation where a non-sexual act was somehow more intimate than a sexual act?
I've never had an emotionally intimate experience with anyone, during sex or otherwise, so I can't answer the question.

21. Were you happy that Liberty finally told Hardy off? Did you cringe over some of it? Were you surprised that he said she was his?
The whole thing made me rather nauseous, like I was watching a train wreck and I knew it was going to get messy but I couldn't look away.

22. “But I’ve never regretted the things I said nearly as much as the words I left unspoken.” Do you have unspoken words you regret keeping to yourself?
Not that I can think of. But I'm not the type to go dumpster-diving through my memories. I tend to ignore things and they eventually fade away to gather dust in a dirty little corner.


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments @ Sans

#15 – Do you mean your family and friends off vodka & tequila?

#16 – That is true, that one doesn’t think of things like that while it is happening.

#17 – ☺

#18 – She did!

#19 – Okay.

#20 - ☹ I hope you do someday, Sans. I’ll think positive thoughts.

#21 – I like that phrase, “dumpster-diving through my memories.”


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Sans Lisa Kay wrote: "@ Sans

#15 – Do you mean your family and friends off vodka & tequila?"


Not sure I understand. Family & friends either already take meds for depression or really need to. I don't, I drink instead. Not to the point of excess (well, not often anyway), just enough to dull it all when it needs dulling.


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Ah! Got it.

Sans, I can do the questions for tomorrow, if you like, since I normally would have done them. Up to you, Sugar Bean.


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Sans Nah, I can take care of them. I won't be able to post on the weekend though (Saturday or Sunday) as I'll be in Livermore again. I think that'll work out though, since Jill mentioned she can post on weekends?


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Whoa! Did you feel that earthquake, Sans!


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments LOL! Yes!


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Sans I did! 4.2 according to the USGS website! Centered 2km outside Berkeley.

I'm so sorry, but I haven't read today. I didn't get a lunch break today and had a headache by the time I got home. No reading done today. I can either post today's questions tomorrow or do tomorrow's set. I'm okay with either.


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments I can come up with some questions for tonight, Sans. Don't worry about it. Take care of yourself.


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Sans Crap on a cracker, I'm really out of it. I repeated myself several times in only a few sentences.>_< Amerge, here I come.


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Lisa Kay’s Questions for Chapters 10 – 13

23. “The sight of a sullen teenager is common no matter where you go. Teenagers want things so powerfully and can never seem to get them, and to add insult to injury, people make light of your feelings because you’re a teenager.” I love the opening sentences to Chapter 10. So true, IMHO. Were you sullen at times as a teenager?

24. Diana’s relationship with Louis Sadlek was so sad; especially since she almost got away, breaking it off with him right before the end. You could see this woman slowly deteriorate. Comments. What about Liberty’s comment about their relationship being pleasure vs. punishment.

25. Were you surprised by the death of Diana? Where you suspicious about who really paid for the Monet casket? Who was in that black limo and what about the roses? Not to mention the suddenly additional place for another scholarship applicant.

26. What do you think about Liberty excitement about being a hair stylist? Should her goals be higher? Or do you admire her desire to elevate herself and her work ethic?

27. Did you think the scene about the scratchy legs was cute? What about their having no insurance and Carrington’s croup scare? What is Liberty giving up for her sister? Do you admire her or think she should turn Carrington over to someone better equipped to take care of her?

28. How do you feel about people who settle for “second best” with regards to their love life?

29. Before people assumed Carrington was Liberty’s and she had her “too young.” Now they think Liberty is Carrington’s nanny. Is this an inconsistence in Kleypas’ writing – or just that now people can see the obvious differences between the two of them (and know nothing about genetics)?

30. Thoughts about the date with Mike? Carrington’s “lucky penny” scene? Are they due for some luck?


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments @ Jill

# 23 – I had highs and lows too. I remember I thought my mom hated me for a couple of years when I was a teenager. In actuality, she was my best friend. It wasn’t easy for her as she was going through menopause at the time. Good Lord.

#25 – Who is your guess?

#26 – All true!

#29 – I didn’t see it as an inconsistency or a stuff up on Kleypas’ part. Just something that happens as things evolve. I know when I was growing up people changed my last name (Chance) to the French sounding Chantz. Then, in adulthood, everyone started mistaking it for Chan, which is Chinese. Weird.

#30 – LOL! I can’t believe you said dickhead.

Oh, you and Sans don’t seem to be enjoying this book as much as I did. I’m sorry. I just love it and I don't really do angsty. I hope it turns around for you both.


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments @ Jill

#25 - I won't confirm or deny - since you want no spoilers. I just wanted to know what you were thinking.

#30 - LOL! Not a problem. Sans and I are much ruder than that.

Well, you are not a lone in your feelings. Some people didn't like it.


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments I'm not sure, Jill. Sans is down for the count right now with a migraine. I know she said she would be away this week-end so couldn't do them then. We could wait until tomorrow to see how she is feeling. I don't mind doing the questions (since I've read this book so many times), I just like to see how other peoples minds are ticking.


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Re-reading my post, I wanted to clarify. I meant I like to see how other peoples' minds are ticking by reading the questions they compose. I really don't want to hog all the questions; just trying to help you working women out. Man, I need to get a job!


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Just checking in with you, Sans. Hope you are feeling better and that you got lunch today! Are you up to posting tonight's questions or should Jill or I to do them?


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Sans No lunch today, but I'm feeling better. The soonest I'll be able to take a set of questions will be Monday. Sorry!! I try to not flake out on reads, but it's not happening work and energy-wise right now. >_<


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Okay, Sans. Good to know. So, you'll do the wrap-up questions on Monday.

Jill, do you want to do today's? Or should I?


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Lisa Kay’s Questions for Chapters 14 -16

31. What did you think of Churchill Travis? Did Kleypas paint a clear enough picture of his character? What do you think about the relationship that has developed between him and Liberty? Did her initial relaxed nature around him seem believable?

32. What are your theories about the relationship Churchill has to Liberty? To Carrington?

33. What was you impression of Tom Hudson? What about the sex? Did Angie’s 68 analogy crack you up? How about the way that Liberty broke it off; was it smart to do it on his turf? If you broke up with someone in the past, did you ever plan the logistics like that?

34. What did you think of Gretchen? Do you think Churchill was really being ignored?

35. Were you surprised Churchill offered Liberty a job work for him? Could you understand her desire for an insurance card? What about her moving into his home?

36. How did you think Liberty and Churchill’s children interacted? What about Gage? What did you think of just Dawnelle?

37. Have you ever been in a social situation where you felt “outclassed?” Did you take a deep breath and shake yourself out of it? Do you think Liberty held her own, despite – or because of – her honesty?

38. What do you think of the interaction between Churchill and Carrington? Is it believable that Churchill could look back on that “road not taken” with his children?

39. Whoa, baby! How about Liberty and Gage’s confrontation? He’s a tad arrogant, right? Good thing she learned not to run from pit-bulls, even if they are “kennel-bred, pedigreed.”

40. Did you like Mr. Ferguson’s advice to Liberty? If so, what part rang truest? What would you do in Liberty’s situation?


Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments @ Jill - Such great answers! ☺

#31 – Yes, I though Kleypas painted a crystal clear pic of Churchill. Years ago, in another life, I was an executive secretary (now they call them administrative assistants), and every once in a while I would rub elbows with the truly wealthy. I was always very polite, but I remember once there was one going into a meeting with his tie all discombobulated and I stopped him and fixed it. He had a southern accent (my family is from the south) and we instantly hit it off, though he was old enough to be my father; he was just a “good old boy” despite his money.

#32 - **Lisa Kay keeps lips zipped**

#33 – Yeah, he was pretty selfish – not to mention insulting. That is so neat that you and your husband have been together like that. I have known several people who are married to their first loves. I agree with you about the location advantage for breaking up. I’ve been the one to initiate the break up a few times, and I only remember really “planning” one. I just didn’t feel the attraction and I wanted to move on with my life – but he was such a nice guy.

#34 – Nope. I think he was just complaining b/c he felt a loss of control.

#35 – Yes, there were definite advantages to Liberty and Carrington moving with Churchill and Gretchen.

#37 – LMAO! Okay! Great answer; very “classy.” ☺ I’ve felt like a fish out of water in really swank settings sometimes, but I usually try to snap myself out of it.

#40 – Yes, loved Mr. Ferguson’s advice too. And the part about ending up on the slab naked.


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