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Google has a reasonably user-friendly version: Google reader.
Much like FB and Twitter, they keep screwing it up with each iteration, but it's still pretty decent.

I follow quite a few blogs with Google Reader. They get a glance most of the time. There are just too many.

It seems that PG puts a lot of energy into what he does and I sometimes wonder if he feels discouraged when he posts something long and detailed -- and no one comments. Maybe he knows there are people like me who read everything he posts, but don't always have something to say.


People check out the comments and the commentators.

Cozy mysteries and romance have been the biggest slices of the overall fiction revenue pie for quite some time. Is Patterson supposed to be upmarket? 220 million books sold. Nora Roberts 450 million. Sherilyn Kenyon (paranormal romance) has sold over 20 million books. And so on and so on.
It was just three years ago that I read some angry diatribe by some midlister literary type who was bemoaning that trad publishers and agents wanted nothing but "badly written books about vampires" (or something to that effect) and her book didn't stand a chance accordingly. She was hardly the only person to complain about that. Heck, it used to be I couldn't go a week without seeing an agent complaining about how they didn't like that XYZ genre trend was still popular.
What eBooks and the concomitant distribution revolution do is simply let authors write what they want and readers find what they want. The traditional publishers and relevant intellectual supporters should do their best to leverage that to their advantage instead of just complaining about people's reading habits.
I'm guessing that "You suck and have terrible taste" just isn't a particularly useful persuasion tactic.

Oh well. What do I know? I'm a downmarket genre hack. :)


I think that post was from The Militant Writer blog. Mary is a friend. She was really frustrated. I've got a copy of her new book waiting to be reviewed.

I didn't really agree with her fundamental thesis, but a supporting implicit axiom, that traditional publishing had become a mostly commercial entity with little interest in growing writers or supporting anything but commercial blockbusters, actually, I thought was actually somewhat strengthened by a lot of the agents coming in and saying variations on, "Sorry, you didn't sell well and are having trouble. Deal."
The funny thing now is that I see media sources like the Guardian and many agents/editors couching their defense on the conventional/traditional/legacy/or whatever publishing establishment in terms of things like the "history of literature" and "not pure commercial interest", et cetera.
I actually do feel that most people who go into the publishing business in some capacity genuinely do like books, but I have to raise an eyebrow when the new party line is becoming, "eBooks will destroy our minds and literature by reducing our books to nothing but icky-poo genre books" when within my toddler son's lifetime, they were smacking around people like your friend with, "This is a business. Don't whine because we sell what people want."
The creative destruction is fascinating to me. I mean maybe pre-early 90s or so, a lot of these "we publishers are defenders of the literary heritage" arguments might have had more validity, but it's downright amusing in the post-consolidation age.

J.A. wrote: "I actually do feel that most people who go into the publishing business in some capacity genuinely do like books, but I have to raise an eyebrow when the new party line is becoming, "eBooks will destroy our minds and literature by reducing our books to nothing but icky-poo genre books" when within my toddler son's lifetime, they were smacking around people like your friend with, "This is a business. Don't whine because we sell what people want."
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I heard the same argument when mp3 music files became all the rage online instead of going out and buying vinyl or cd and dvd recordings. Everyone I know said that the mp3 revolution would push music back into the scum that floats on the bottom of the dirtiest pond. Granted, it's given people the opportunity to showcase their spectacular lack of talent but it has also allowed people to showcase their style of music that would otherwise have slipped through the music moguls' huge cracks anyway.
Books are a business, if there is no money to be made in a particular genre, then why should publishers go out of their way to print a run just to satisfy some one person's belief? Most if not all companies affiliated to entertainment/hobbies and the like cater to what the masses want. Fringe populations are all about the cult status of an item, not necessarily the popularity of it with the masses.
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I heard the same argument when mp3 music files became all the rage online instead of going out and buying vinyl or cd and dvd recordings. Everyone I know said that the mp3 revolution would push music back into the scum that floats on the bottom of the dirtiest pond. Granted, it's given people the opportunity to showcase their spectacular lack of talent but it has also allowed people to showcase their style of music that would otherwise have slipped through the music moguls' huge cracks anyway.
Books are a business, if there is no money to be made in a particular genre, then why should publishers go out of their way to print a run just to satisfy some one person's belief? Most if not all companies affiliated to entertainment/hobbies and the like cater to what the masses want. Fringe populations are all about the cult status of an item, not necessarily the popularity of it with the masses.

Mass printing will destroy civilization!
Penny dreadfuls will destroy civilization!
Dime novels will destroy civilization!
Mass market paperbacks will destroy civilization!
Really, though, I wonder if one of the fundamental beefs many angry people have is that proliferation of titles limits the ability of particular titles to become as immediate major cultural focal points.
We're perhaps leaving the age (or already have) where there's not a true core canon that all the "respectable" people will have read, even in the more fancy-pants literary world. Whether that's a good thing or bad thing I can't say.
Doesn't matter maybe. All those genetically engineered Esperanto-speaking frog cyborgs will ban us from reading in 2025 anyway. ;)
Nah, they'll implant a chip that instantly connects us to a hive mind with all the books ever written in them. No need to spend money, it will all just be right there :D
What about all those penny dreadfal books written when the Wild West was truly wild? If anything they mythologised people like Wild Bill and the like. They certainly never destroyed civilisation as we know it (we're doing that all by ourselves quite nicely thankyouverymuch!).
Whether a book is badly written and edited or well written and well edited doesn't matter much these days. Once again to use the music industry as a great example - if someone like Bieber can make it (and a host of other one hit wonders) then most any indie author has a chance. Even the ones that are truly awful. Just like there is a market for the highly respected authors, so there is a market for the truly awful.
What about all those penny dreadfal books written when the Wild West was truly wild? If anything they mythologised people like Wild Bill and the like. They certainly never destroyed civilisation as we know it (we're doing that all by ourselves quite nicely thankyouverymuch!).
Whether a book is badly written and edited or well written and well edited doesn't matter much these days. Once again to use the music industry as a great example - if someone like Bieber can make it (and a host of other one hit wonders) then most any indie author has a chance. Even the ones that are truly awful. Just like there is a market for the highly respected authors, so there is a market for the truly awful.

I love the modern Dollar Dreadful - after a reader has enough of them, they start looking upscale.
Mmm. I started out as a small boy reading the comics in the newspapers in all the European languages. I didn't even know it was odd to be such a flashy linguist until I was out of my teens. Even the dumbest kids I knew spoke six or seven languages (four were compulsory at school, and everyone spoke at at least two more to address servants and workmen).

I like a good story and read broadly, and even more so on my Kindle, but I have to agree with his last statment in the piece:
The clear and present danger with the Kindle’s penny-dreadfuls is that over time they put off readers, not because the books are ‘downmarket’, but because they are badly edited and poorly presented.
He has it exactly right to me. I'm one who minds if a book is badly edited and poorly presented; I find it distracting and unenjoyable. The worst problem is one cannot get from Amazon reviews if a book is either, and I'm not about to read a whole sample for each book just to find that out about it. For a few months there I was pleased to find the books I was reading on Kindle had much improved in those areas, but some of the last few have been very highly recommended and very disappointing - and a waste of valuable time.
I believe there is room for penny dreadfuls - or dollar or whatever one wants to call them - my term has always been 'pulp', and I've enjoyed many of them. My beef is with well-written, 'literary' for want of a better word, books which show great promise and are touted as such, and may even have been edited, but then were 'published' without the final step of copyediting and formatting.

When I went searching for the troublesome author's phrases on Google, I was reminded of a beloved short story in which the main character meets a homely woman whose manner he admires despite her overweight body and plain face. The way she held her fan, or gestured, or moved, or dressed captivated him, and he found himself searching for the woman she was copying -- certain that none of what he admired could be of her own making. All along he might have had her, the genuine article, but he couldn't accept finding all that he admired in such an unattractive package so he kept on searching. When he finally realized that she was the true owner of the qualities he sought, it was too late.


I don't get why everyone demonizes Amazon. They are a technology company, the stuff they sell is just that...stuff.
B&N is smart to spin off the Nook - and if they are REALLY smart they will let the Nook Team run the website and fix it.

Can I add something probably totally off topic? Star Trek brought us all into the 21st century. They were using tablets back in the 60s. Why does no one credit Spock and the team?
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Patricia, I don't know much about Bezos (he's the Amazon owner/innovator?) but I would imagine like any big conglomerate on the internet, there's a whole team of people behind the scenes runnging things in any event. Like there would be with most any successful company.
Kat, I agree with you. Amazon is a business, pure and simple. They cater to their market very well. Anyone could go to any other store and get the same thing. I don't get how Amazon is a demon either.
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Patricia, I don't know much about Bezos (he's the Amazon owner/innovator?) but I would imagine like any big conglomerate on the internet, there's a whole team of people behind the scenes runnging things in any event. Like there would be with most any successful company.
Kat, I agree with you. Amazon is a business, pure and simple. They cater to their market very well. Anyone could go to any other store and get the same thing. I don't get how Amazon is a demon either.

That sucks. I hate it too, this policy of not having things available. Besides the whispernet fee of $2 extra per book, many titles are simply not available for download for Africa.


Ah, thought it might be too good to be true, a reference to one of my favourite shows :D Guess I should read Jobs' biography then. I have it somewhere.
It's rather like a Russian encyclopaedia of science I used to have. Everything was invented in Russia. Steam? Invented in Rusia. The automobile? Yup. The production line to build cars? Yup, in Russia. Ironically this last theft was illustrated with a GAZ production line. GAZ was set up as a precise duplicate of a Ford flaunt with obsolete Ford machinery...

Another interesting dicussion on The Passive Voice.