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William
William is so interesting to me. I love that he has feelings for Gilly but holds himself back because she is so young. I love how he thinks that he is gods gift to women. he totally cracks me up.
I don't like it when all characters start being sarcastic but I like William as a funny character. He's intriguing and I'd love to learn more about him.I personally don't want him with Gilly. I think he needs a real woman, not a child. I'd like it better if he would turn into a big brother for her.
The thing I wonder is which series his book will belong to. At first you'd think LOTU but Gena only talks about Cameo's and Torin's books being left.
I know I am probably one of few that would actually like to see him with Gilly. Yes I know she is only 17 in this book. However I think if the story is written right that we could see Gilly in a whole new different light. Like I said I am sure I am one of FEW rather than many.I think with what Gilly went through in her past she is probably more adult/woman than we might realize. I would like her to have her happy ending. Besides I think William needs someone good and somewhat innocent to help offset his bad side. Afterall he is immortal, related to Lucifer, and helped create the 4 horsemen of the appocolypse.
Either way I really hope we get a book for William. I think he definitely deserves one
So far Gena hasn't decided whether or not she will be writing a book for William, that's why it's not listed as part of the series yet, that's the last I read about it anyway
I'm with you Shawna. I think that William and Gilly would be great and you can already tell that they really care for each other.
I would like a William book and I would like it to be with him and Gilly. It would have to be quite a few years later cause Gilly is too young for him (I know he’s sooooooo much older than her but he still acts like a child) but I think they could work!! Maybe I’m just a hopeless romantic (no need for a maybe there really). I would also like a Galen book – I know he’s their nemesis but now the hunters are pretty much gone and he’s allied with Sienna (very strange) I think it could be awesome.
Jessica wrote: "I'm with you Shawna. I think that William and Gilly would be great and you can already tell that they really care for each other."I totally agree with you Jessica. I only hope that we get to read a book about it. I hope Gena decides to write their story. I will forever keep my fingers crossed that we get their book..yes i said their because i am thorougly vested in them as a couple LOL
Sophie wrote: "I would like a William book and I would like it to be with him and Gilly. It would have to be quite a few years later cause Gilly is too young for him (I know he’s sooooooo much older than her but ..."Good points Sophie. I would like a Galen book as well. Perhaps he finally finds redemption or something.
Well William and Gilly's book would definitely have to be when she is at least 18, we have to have her legal. I believe Danika and Ashlyn are in their early 20s so they aren't really that old either considering their men are thousands of years old. I think I remember in Saben's book that he said Gwen was at least a little older than those two and she was like 26 or 27. But yes I am in agreement that she would have to definitely be older than 17.
Yeah, she will definately have to be legal. I think a Galen book would be great as well. He is very interesting to me. I would like to read his side of the story and see him be redeemed. But I have a soft spot for tortured souls and he definately fits that bill.
I totally want to see William and Gilly end up together, but it's still too soon. Gilly is too young for one, and I think it's going to take something big to finally push them together. If any of you are familiar with Nalini Singh's Psy/Changeling series, one of the main couples is Hawke and Sienna. When you meet Sienna in book 2 (i think) Sienna is like 15-16, and Hawke is the pack alpha and like 30 (give or take a couple years). Their book was book 10 and Sienna is 18yrs old. It was a touch controversial because of the age thing, but honestly, Singh did such a good job with their storyline, that their book is still my favourite book in the series. I feel like Showalter has the opportunity to do the same thing with Gilly and William, but she can't rush it, and i think so far so good for where they are at in the series!
As for Galen... I am curious about him... but I got the feeling him and Legion had potential even though she's not doin so great as of late (sorry if i'm wrong, haven't read the books in a while and some of the details are a little fuzzy for me :S )
Steph wrote: "I totally want to see William and Gilly end up together, but it's still too soon. Gilly is too young for one, and I think it's going to take something big to finally push them together. If any of..."
Steph I am in complete agreement with you. You definitely bring up some great points. Gena has the opportunity to let William and Gilly's relationship build overtime. I think it would be great to be able to read their relationship develop overtime, from protector (william), to friends, and then to lovers. I think it would also give their relationship a solid base.
Yes you are right I think Galen and Legion have potential. Just have to wait and see what the future books hold.
I haven't read Psy/Changling series yet. I have them all I just haven't started them. They keep getting pushed back. Are they good? Maybe I should push them up instead.
Shawna wrote: "Steph I am in complete agreement with you. You definitely bring up some great points. Gena has the opportunity to let William and Gilly's relationship build overtime. I think it would be great to be able to read their relationship develop overtime, from protector (william), to friends, and then to lovers. I think it would also give their relationsh..."Some of my favourite PNRs in general are those where the couple already has a history and the reader has grown with them from the beginning. It feels less rushed for one (No I-Love-yous within 24hrs of meeting) and as a reader, by the time their book is out, I have an attachment to both the individual characters as well as the couple. So I think a slow growth of Gilly and William's relationship would be very beneficial if they do in fact end up together.
Nalini Singh is my favourite PNR author.... So IMO they're AWESOME! :P Singh's style is a little different and it took a couple of books to get used to it, but now, I RUN to to go buy her books (both psy-changeling and guild hunter series)! In a genre that's quite saturated, Singh's worlds are quite unique and refreshingly so. And even if you're like, "meh" for the main couple, the side stories and those developments (like Hawke and Sienna for example) still make the book great. Singh is probably the author i "promote" the most because I feel she can be quite underrated considering the stories she produces. (I just wish the North American covers of the Psy-Changeling series were less cheezy poof - I know i delayed reading the series because of those heinous covers)
Steph wrote: "Shawna wrote: "Steph I am in complete agreement with you. You definitely bring up some great points. Gena has the opportunity to let William and Gilly's relationship build overtime. I think it woul..."Well thanks for all that info. I like both kind of relationships but I do find myself more involved with the ones that progress overtime. The ones we get to read about more of their interaction with one another before the decleration of love. There are quite a few that I have loved that have the instant attraction but so far I have yet to dislike a couple in which we get more of background story to them is I guess what I would call it.
I think i'm going to have push that series up the stack now. I bought most of them when Borders was going out of business because I got them for like $1.50. So I was like sure why not..but you are right aboutt he covers. I think that could be why I haven't read them yet. I look at the cover and am like oh good gawd what did I do LOL
Shawna wrote:"Well thanks for all that info. I like both kind of relationships but I do find myself more involved with the ones that progress overtime. The ones we get to read about more of their interaction with one another before the decleration of love..... "Oh I like both kinds too... If I was against the whole instant attraction thing, I don't think I would like many PNR books hahaha.... I just find when there is some history, even if just a little, they are often ranked higher for favs in any given series. It's a trend I've noticed after reading so many over the last few years.
Never has the saying "don't judge a book by it's cover" been so true than with that series. The worst was the Hawke and Sienna book as it was hardcover with a giant man-chest taking up 80% of the cover with a wolf howling to the moon. UGH! cringe-worthy. I like to read on the bus but there was NO WAY I was going to do it without taking off the out-cover first.(Even goodreads doesn't have that cover as the primary cover - they show the UK one) By the way, you seriously got a good deal on those books *high five*
Steph wrote: "Shawna wrote:"Well thanks for all that info. I like both kind of relationships but I do find myself more involved with the ones that progress overtime. The ones we get to read about more of their i..."Lol! I know what you mean! I sewed book covers so no one can see what I'm reading;) Even some of the milder books have really sexy covers. I'm totally not complaining, but it's difficult while I'm sitting at my daughter's dance class with a bunch of conservative women reading my PNR;)
I can't wait for William and Gilly's book. I think when she's 18 or 19 would be good. I believe Sienna was 19 or just turning 19 when she and Hawke started dating and Singh did a great job with the development of their relationship. I would really love to see Galen and Legion too. I don't generally like reading about the bad guys so I'm hoping there is some major redemption on Galen's part.
Lori and Steph, I totally understand with the cheesy covers. That is why I love my Kindle so much. No one has to see the cheesy cover of the fantastic book that I am reading. It makes it so much easier to read in public. I live in a very conservative area as well and some of the looks people give you could kill. lol
Shawna wrote: "Like I said I am sure I am one of FEW rather than many."I think people have mixed feelings about this. Some want them together, some don't.
Shawna wrote: "I think with what Gilly went through in her past she is probably more adult/woman than we might realize. I would like her to have her happy ending. Besides I think William needs someone good and somewhat innocent to help offset his bad side."
I have no doubt that Gilly is more mature than other teenagers her age due to her history. But she is still a child. Seriously, the way she and William behave sometimes makes me roll my eyes. She should get a nice human boy her age. William a grown-up, independent, awesome immortal woman. I'd like that better. I prefer William and Gilly as best friends or brother/sister. Everything else is ewww to me.
Considering how many immortals well in their hundreds if not having at least lived a millenia are dating mortal women in their 20s in this genre, I have learned to throw age right out the window provided they are legal. And actually, when you think about it even more, for fans of Twilight, Vampire Diaries and Buffy for example, some rather old vamps are hooking up with teenagers, and it's kind of sketchy and icky when you break it down and look at it from an actual "real life" POV... So right now, I do think Gilly still has some growing to do, but at the same time, so does William. They both act like teenagers most of the time, Gilly justifiably so, William being a basic man-child 80% of the time. Both are not where they need to be in order to deliver a great love story, but I'm prepared to wait five books or more down the line if necessary.
I think it's probably split down the middle about who readers want Gilly and/or William to end up with. I'm personally for the two of them ending up together, but not any time soon. The timing isn't right yet.
Steph wrote: "Considering how many immortals well in their hundreds if not having at least lived a millenia are dating mortal women in their 20s in this genre, I have learned to throw age right out the window pr..."Good point Steph. Most PRN's have the immortal man with a much younger women if you think about it. It doesn't really bother me one bit. Age is just a number. lol. I don't think a they are ready for their book but I really hope in a couple more books they will be. I think that Gilly being so sweet and inoccent is perfect for William. He needs some one to keep him from the darkside.
I agree that there is a huge age gap most of the time which makes me wonder why the mortal part of the equation isn't at least in his/her 40s. But no matter what Gena will do with William, we surely will have to wait a while.
Btw, did you see that tidbit from one of Gena's interviews?I would love to be the woman who tames William from the Lords of the Underworld. He just stopped over to visit with Koldo in Beauty Awakened, the second Angels of the Dark book, and I was reminded of just how much I love him.
Oh, yay! William in the next Angels book. That should be fun.
I hope that her saying "would love to be the woman who tames William" is a sign that it wont be Gilly then.. ;D
I hate it when they use the word "tame." I don't want any male to be tamed.
Camilla ~ ♥Qhuay At Last♥ ~ wrote: "I hope that her saying "would love to be the woman who tames William" is a sign that it wont be Gilly then.. ;D"I hope so too. But Gena is a William/Gilly fan.
I think William and Gilly will get together...but i think she will do in such a way that she is more like 20-21 so more of a woman! She did say on fb back in Feb that Gilly's 18th would be in March! So im thinking that by the time it comes round to Williams book she'll be all grown up! :) Hopefully you will see Gilly grow into the woman William needs over the course of the rest of the books! Plus she has also said that William will definately have a book in the LoTU series yay!!!
On FB someone asked about William's true form and why he is called the Dark. This was Gena's reply.LOL You learn more in Beauty Awakened!!
Oh good! I really want to know more about him.
Weird that she would write "LOL" to such a question though.. Does she know what it means? ;)Cant wait! 2013 is going to be one crazy book year..
The fan wrote more about the books and I think Gena LOLed at another comment from her and not about William.
I love William and Gilly as a couple. Considering how slowly guys mature and how silly William can be, I think she's got him beat on the maturity level in some ways. Also, I can see Gilly being the aggressor in their relationship, and with a man as experienced as William that could be very sexy. Also, wasn't Gilly living on her own and working as a waitress when we first met her? ...Maybe she was still with her parents, can't remember. Anyway, it seems like with her being in high school she comes off as younger now. But I definitely think Gena will wait until she's at least 18. Otherwise, uproar from the fans.
Btw, do you pronounce Gilly with a G or a J sound? I pronounce it like a J, otherwise I think of that silly character from Saturday Night Live.
I do too. It just sounds better as "Jilly".
True. It's already silly enough that their names rhyme. I do like her Liam nickname for him.
I would love to see William and Gilly falling in love with each other. I really hope for that. But she is human and he is immortal. How is that going to work out? Do you think Gena will give Gilly a demon?:O
I'm sure she'd be made immortal. It always ends like that. I'd prefer if the characters stayed how they are. That would be something unpredictable.
I love Gilly. She's young but she's stubborn and stands up to William. I'm really curious to see how William's curse plays out. Since the woman he loves kills him, and I can't imagine Gilly doing that, maybe he will end up with someone else. But I hope not! It would make sense if Gilly got a demon, then she might attack William. Oh, that really makes sense! I like it.
Trying to remember what demons are out there unaccounted for...
I know there is a list somewhere. Maybe in "The Darkest Facts".
Yes, you're right Sarah. Will check that out.I just read the William interview in the links thread. He was an ass of course but funny too, especially this:
"Francesca (blushing): So, uh, yeah. If you could only take three items to a deserted island, what would you take?
William: A blond, a brunette, and a redhead."
That interview was too funny, Anna. William is such a flirt and a ham. He cracks me up.
I'm thinking that William will be killed and die for all of 30 seconds and then be brought back. In the LOTU universe he doesn't have to stay dead. :D
He's awesome. :)Although if I met him in real life I probably wouldn't like him. I hate arrogant guys. In fiction it's okay cause he's so damn funny.
I'm seeing that too, Lulu. Dead for a millisecond and then the hand of God brings him back like usual. Ah well. I can live with the silly fixes as long as the journey there entertains me.
I'll volunteer as the desert-island brunette!
Gena said first that William will have a big part in Kane's book and after that that he will have a big part in Koldos. So do we see him in both books a lot or just in Koldos book? ( sorry if you don't understand everything I'm writing here, my english is not very good) :)
He could be brought back using old fashioned CPR lol! Mouth-to-mouth anyone?
I have to dye my hair red then, because I want on that desert-island with William too !
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