Ascend discussion

i like finn better than loki. everyone hates finn.
please share your thoughts

I don't hate Finn. but that dosn't mean that i'm not team Loki.

i dont hate finn, he was just conflicted and did what he thought was right theres no shame or reason to hate him. but i think loki is better for her anway. if finn had fought harder, she would still have ended up with loki simply because he fell for him after finn, if finn and her belonged together it wouldnt have happend but it did.

I seriously don;t hate Finn AT ALL!! I still like him he just didn't want to fight for Wendy but that doesn't mean he didnt want her She fell in love with him and Loki...just Loki and her had a serious connection

LIKE JOHNNY DEPP SAID "If you love two people at the same time, choose the 2nd one. Because if you really loved the first one, you would'nt have fallen for the second"

I think Loki was the right choice but i dont hate Finn i like him too

Finn's just a stupid selfish dick. ha.

"If you love two people at the same time, choose the 2nd one. Because if you really loved the first one, you would'nt have fallen for the second"

That is awesome! I'm gonna use that since I'm usually a fan of the second guy! LOL But not always...But usually!!

Haylee' Marie wrote: "I seriously don;t hate Finn AT ALL!! I still like him he just didn't want to fight for Wendy but that doesn't mean he didnt want her She fell in love with him and Loki...just Loki and her had a ser..."

I agree!!!

Jennifer wrote: ""If you love two people at the same time, choose the 2nd one. Because if you really loved the first one, you would'nt have fallen for the second"

That is awesome! I'm gonna use that since I'm usua..."

when i saw the quote i loved it

I don't hate Finn. I actually liked him and wished that if they weren't going to end up together they would have had a stronger character development that led more towards friendship after the initial attraction AND had far more character development with Loki. At the end when she was going on and on about how she loved Loki it just didn't ring true for me as we hadn't had that much time for their love to develop.

that is completely true tiffany . the only reason im not satified with loki and wendy together was that there wasn't enough time.

I thought Finn was okay but he didn't fight for Wendy making me think he was a little selfish for doing that. At, first I thought he was perfect for Wendy but than my opinion changed when Loki came in the picture. Anyway Finn is is happy with that lady who I forget the name. Personally I think Finn is cute such as Loki. ;)

Lady wrote: "I thought Finn was okay but he didn't fight for Wendy making me think he was a little selfish for doing that. At, first I thought he was perfect for Wendy but than my opinion changed when Loki came..."

Why does everyone say that? He did everything he could to protect her and he cared for her a lot!

LaurenDee wrote: "Lady wrote: "I thought Finn was okay but he didn't fight for Wendy making me think he was a little selfish for doing that. At, first I thought he was perfect for Wendy but than my opinion changed w..."

Well, they ended up not choosing each other, end of story.

Tiffany wrote: "I don't hate Finn. I actually liked him and wished that if they weren't going to end up together they would have had a stronger character development that led more towards friendship after the init..."

I agree . . .if the choice had been mine it would've been Finn LOL!!!

I know that Gabby but it's just my opinion.

Wendy's connection to Finn was due to being unlike everyone else. He was her introduction. His place in their world was cemented, as was hers. By the time she could've changed those ways, she didn't feel the same. He had never fought for her affection, he always fought for her title; her burden. Loki understood her in ways Finn never could.

I adore Finn, more than i like Loki actually. If she was never going to end up with Finn then the author shouldnt have got us so attached to him in the beginning and left so little room for Loki so show up. I think her feelings for him grew to abruptly and that she should have been with Finn, not even her 'break up' with Finn was good enough when she was in love with him.

I don't hate Finn. I actually really liked him. Wendy and Finn love each other. Im always down for the first love. But I liked Finn even more because he was RIGHT. THings between them couldn't work out because she HAD to be queen. I loved the tension b/w his duty and his love for her. But I liked Loki because he gave her something more than physical, uncontrollable, interaction. He gave her intimacy. FInn and Wendy may not have been happy together because of their positions. I could almost feel the hurt wendy experienced when they would come together only to be torn apart again. The big question is...Did he really have a choice?? Could he fight for her even if he wanted to? I like Finn because he knew what was right for her. SHE NEEDED TO BE QUEEN and lead her people. I rooting for them in the beginning, truly I was, BUT Loki...there was just something about him. At first I was angry with Wendy, but his humor, passion and all that he went through for her proved his devotion for her. She needed someone to love her just as much as she loved him (as Loki says).

^ and when I said intimacy, I didn't mean that he had sex with her. I meant mental intimacy. He made her feel loved. Admitting his affection for her, never giving up. He was respectful and fought hard for what he believed. Loki is actually introduced int he first book in Hocking's (added stories. His heart was pure and loving from the jump. Hocking made us fall in love with FInn in the beginning because of the whole Love triangle bit. Drama, and her ability to draw our feelings into these characters is what makes books so good. If it hadn't been in the book, the story plot would have seemed too easy, too predictable. She wanted us to ask questions like, "who will she end up with, will she marry him? what will he do now that he is dead...etc). The summation of the series was absolutely impeccable.

Lauren-dee wrote: "I know that Gabby but it's just my opinion."

Sorry for sounding rude. i re-read it and thought there was a better way of saying it.

it annoyed me the way he claimed to love her but wouldnt fight for her and clung to a misplaced sense of duty above his alleged true love. also, i just didnt feel like their romance was genuine

because he loves her but acts like he doesn't. and when Wendy wanted to be with him, he blew her off. that's why he's so damn annoying.

Team FINNNNNNNN i really do not like loki i just dont feel like he nd wendy should be togeher. so angrrrrryyy at the ending ahhhhhh

Because he's a jerk and has no consideration for Wendy's feelings

I disliked Finn merely because he put his job before Wendy!
I get that he 'believed' he was doing what was best for her, but it shouldn't have mattered.
I'm the type of person who would fight for love, no matter the consequences, but duty came first for Finn.
And it irritated me how he kept pushing her away, and I could never really connect with Finn.

Loki didn't care either way. He could have been a tracker or a manks - he still would have pursued Wendy, because he truly loved her. Despite the knock-backs from Wendy, he continued to fight for her. And THAT'S what love is all about!

Loki is 10 times better!
But I'm glad Finn got a happy ending!
;-)

I think Amanda Hocking did a TERRIBLE job with Finn's character.

In the first book, Finn's awesome, dreamy, and great, but then Hocking has to ruin that perfectness with Wendy's totally out-of-the-blue excuse that Finn didn't fight for her and didn't really connect with her. Like, seriously?! I like Loki and all, but I absolutely hated the way Hocking just switched gears in the last book.

Ali wrote: "I think Amanda Hocking did a TERRIBLE job with Finn's character.

In the first book, Finn's awesome, dreamy, and great, but then Hocking has to ruin that perfectness with Wendy's totally out-of-th..."

I agree!

i don't hate Finn but more that like i'm disappointed with him. he should of have stand up to her. he picked duty over love. and that's not right! he was suppose to fight. i am team Loki but still everybody would like him better if he stop thinking to down of himself.
i mean not a great ending. i i'm one of those people who don't like it when you like break up then found someone better. i just hate when that happens. i rather he just moan for his love. (i guess that was rude but it's the truth)

I think as i re-read some bits from ascend that Wendy always had feelings for fin, he would walk in the room and her stomach would drop. She was getting married and looking around for Fin not Loki. Finn had more of a cool characteristic and a more romantic appeal. He put Wendy's priorities above his own and I think it was very sad that they didn't end up together. Loki has a sexy appeal to him through his humour but in my opinion he was always to forward and sometimes rude.

Voy por la mitad del Libro y ya se su final, Y la verdad no me gusto, creo que me tengo que conformar con ese Fin, y aun mas tratar de "querer" a Loki. Pero Siempre sera EQUIPO FINN!!

TEAM FINN ♥

My personal feelings on the matter?

Finn is the guy that's always there for you in high school - when you were the awkward Freshman, when you didn't get asked to Homecoming sophomore year, he's the one that came over with movies and popcorn and stood up to the guys that teased you because he's been in love with you since your backpack broke open the first day of school because you always say you don't have time for boys.

Loki is the sports jock who thinks he's master of the school because he's on the state championship team and was once one of the guys that teased you, but when you suddenly blossomed, took notice and decided to have you. So he put on the moves he knew you'd be susceptible to because no guy had ever paid you that kind of attention.

Finn just didn't try hard enough and Loki was always there. Team Loki!!!

Aamzy95 wrote: "Finn just didn't try hard enough and Loki was always there. Team Loki!!!"

Can you help me understand exactly what Finn *didn't* do? Not "trying hard enough" isn't quite cutting it for me. What else would you have liked him to do?

I liked Finn better than Loki...I always wanted Wendy to be with Finn and I was always expecting them to get back together throughout the entire series...and every time I think of Loki I keep on thinking of Loki from the Avengers (golden horns, green costume) but yeah...I love Finn <3 and DON'T HAVE TEAMS...THIS ISN'T TWILIGHT!!!!

i like finn and loki but i think wendy is better of with loki and finn with mia

It's not that I didn't like Finn, he just got on my nerves. Wendy really wanted to be with him and it didn't matter to her what she would lose and yet he wouldn't even try. Glad she ended up with Loki

I LOVE Finn!

Ali wrote: "I think Amanda Hocking did a TERRIBLE job with Finn's character.

In the first book, Finn's awesome, dreamy, and great, but then Hocking has to ruin that perfectness with Wendy's totally out-of-th..."

Samantha wrote: "Catherine wrote: "i like finn better than loki. everyone hates finn.
please share your thoughts"

Everyone hates Finn because that's what Amanda Hocking wanted. She added some bullshit about how F..."

You pretty much nailed it. She basically planted a false idea (Finn won't fight for Wendy), and had Wendy keep repeating it, made Loki add his input ("he's not good enough for you")and hoped that the audience would be so bombarded with it that we would eventually buy it. And it seems that many did. So sad.
Finn and Wendy had a complicated romance which provided the perfect setting to develop a really interesting resolution. Too bad she abandoned it without ever hitting the central issues. The very things that Wendy was fighting for as princess and then later as queen (equality within Trylle society) would have been the setting to address these problems. I was just waiting for her to attack that issue and use the reforms that Wendy was making to do it. After all, Willa and Matt stood up to the societal pressures.
Finn was a good man. He was honorable (and deeply conflicted because of his love for her), and the problems which were keeping them apart could have been addressed through reforms which she, the queen, could have made. Of course, the author would have to develop this and flesh it out, not just have Wendy "forcing" reforms on society. Give us some angst with the Markis. Give us drama in the palace, but RESOLVE the issue through her reforms.

It's just a shame, because this storyline could have gone another way. It wasn't an unfixable relationship. In fact, it already had a natural set up for resolution. The author just didn't seem to want to take it. I wonder why not?

Ali wrote: "I think Amanda Hocking did a TERRIBLE job with Finn's character.

In the first book, Finn's awesome, dreamy, and great, but then Hocking has to ruin that perfectness with Wendy's totally out-of-th..."

Yes. Completely out of the blue. And people seem to have really latched on to it, unfortunately. It was so contrived.

Vanessa wrote: "I don't hate Finn. I actually really liked him. Wendy and Finn love each other. Im always down for the first love. But I liked Finn even more because he was RIGHT. THings between them couldn't work..."

But Finn did love her just as much as she loved him. Actually, I think he may have loved her even more.