I have decided book three is a vanishing twin--

When one twin dies in utero early in pregancy, there is the idea and sense of twin , a mother's grief wrapped in expectation of a second infant that will deliver after the first.
Yet, the lost twin's body is resorbed into tissue and membrane, morphed into a beige rubbery spot.

"Has he delivered?" , she cried while holding the first twin to her breast.
"It is done", I told her.
"Can i hold him? Can i see him?"
Glancing at the beige spot on amniotic membranes discarded in a pan of placenta and clot, I stammered an attempt at comfort , "The twin cannot be held- cannot be touched like the child in your arms. He is gone. It is done."

I just want to say thank you! I really love the first two books, the short story, and the novella you have published in that world. I hope that once the 3rd book is out, you continue to write in the four corners.

Marykay wrote: "I have decided book three is a vanishing twin--

When one twin dies in utero early in pregancy, there is the idea and sense of twin , a mother's grief wrapped in expectation of a second infant that..."

You're absolutely right. Book 3 was absorbed by it's first 2 siblings and we're never getting it. Totally makes sense to comment this on a post Pat literally made to talk about Book 3.

Point taken. I was whining.

Authors are people too! So I'm ready to wait. I enjoyed everything else Mr. Rothfuss has written so much. The Wise Man's Fear is my all-time favorite book. And with good reason. Here's at least one fan who won't whine (at least not in public).

I'm with you, Saul. Frankly, if all my mistakes (including putting off projects that people were expecting from me out of a desire to make sure each is fit for consumption) were public, I would die of mortification. Patrick Rothfuss is alive and kicking. Go, Patrick! I went back and re-read his work in that world, and I still think it's worth it even if we never see book three. The writing is beautiful. Thank you, Patrick R. I'm distantly, politely in love. :)

Heath wrote: "I have an idea.....Finish the damn book!!"

Honestly, at this point I'm about 90% ok with the idea of us never getting Book 3 just to spite every single person who complains about it on Pat's personal posts.

Heath wrote: "I make it a point to complain on every one of his post."

Aaaand its up to 93%

The gift and talent of Mr. Rothfuss have created a deep anticipation of book #3 . Apologies if I offended anybody. My whine did sound a little desperate when I read the next day. I also have not been able to find another series recently which I have enjoyed as much. ( I am having fun reading Ben Aaronovitch's latest book.)
Hope this serves a pat on the back, a nod of encouragement, and a warm cocoa of admiration to Mr. Rothfuss.

Marykay wrote: "...I also have not been able to find another series recently which I have enjoyed as much."

Can I recommend the Gentlemen Bastard series by Scott Lynch? Its an amazing series with 4 books already out and more to come (although I'd understand if you're wary of starting more unfinished series lol)

I read the first- will need to pick up again. Thanks.

Great Q&A! I read a transcript.

Also, after coming across so many people desiring so hard that book 3 be released ASAP, I can't help but think of the relative peace and quiet that authors of yore experienced. Must be a little tough these days. Though I guess some authors really "put themselves out there" more than others (I think I heard that PR livestreams his face while he writes? Maybe I made that up - it seems too crazy), and inevitably that encourages people to openly whine. But on the other hand, he's helped raise millions of dollars for charity, so hopefully the annoyance he feels is offset by the knowledge that he's making the world better.

Ryan wrote: (I think I heard that PR livestreams his face while he writes? Maybe I made that up - it seems too crazy) ..."

That actually did happen! I think it was during worldbuilders, there was a poll for people who donated if they would rather watch Pat work on Book 3 or play Fallout 4, and each day the poll started over. Whichever option had more by 3 o'clock (?) he did. http://blog.patrickrothfuss.com/2015/...

Cookie wrote: That actually did happen! I think it was during worldbuilders, there was ..."

Ah! So it was part of his fiendish plan to raise millions of dollars for charity. That's cool!

Heath wrote: "Yet he still hasnt finished the book. I belueve that he does not want to release it. Once its out he is out of the lime light."

Yeah, I doubt that. That's silly. He's not in the limelight right now mostly because people are anticipating the next book. He's in the limelight mostly because he's written a couple books that many people really like (and his work is optioned for film/tv, and he has an active shop/charity). There is very little chance that interest in him will fade away after book 3 is released.

Side note: Why would you choose to exert emotional effort in being upset that the next book isn't out? Go read some other books, go work, go to school, hang out with friends - live your life! Then when this book comes out, go read it. Why worry in the meantime.

Heath wrote: "Nope. He is sitting on the book. "

I know you're just deliberately being pissy but now all I can imagine is Pat lounging on a throne made of printed copies of Book 3 and flipping everyone off, so thanks for the laugh.

Heath wrote: "Nope. He is sitting on the book. He is an asshole. A genius hell of an author but an asshole. The book is ready now."

So what if the book is done now? I wouldn't care. It's obviously going to come out at some point in the future. IF it was completely ready right now (which, as a reminder, there is no evidence for and it directly contradicts all known information), then the release date would be contingent on a number of factors. Are movies, TV shows, and albums released the day after they're finished? No. Do you spend your life being pissed that upcoming movies aren't released earlier? I bet Logan is a finished movie. Why would they wait until March to release it?!

Since i walked over to the Monroe Street library and signed my first library card, escaping into the other world of a story has been my strongest survival skill. During medical school and residency, Robert Jordan's books were a great escape. Working 120 hour weeks, at times 40 hour shifts was brutal. Even if i only read one paragraph, I would read a little Jordan every day. Tel'aran'rhiod was a necessary respite. It was horrible when I was in between books. Like a junkie, i would crave and jones for the next fix- that next release... My addiction to good stories -another world- continues- with many authors and a little more time to read. ( I am glad this is not a 14 book series)

I am not sophisticated enough to think of all the conspiracy theories Heath mentioned- just thought maybe the story was not complete.

I admit it. My name is Marykay, and I am a book junkie. I have admit I am powerless over a good story and my whining is unmanageable .

I have come to believe that a mythology greater than reality can restore me to sanity.

I can turn my will over to the power of the author who is greater than me.

now all I can imagine is Pat lounging on a throne made of printed copies of Book 3 and flipping eve..."
This is meme-worthy. Someone needs to make this fan-art JUST so that we have something to spam at these trolls.

I'm sure Mr. Rothfuss will still find these a**holes irritating, but it might make it easier to see his supporters counter-trolling. XD

Mark wrote: "JUST so that we have something to spam at these trolls ..."

tbh I'm considering replying to every comment with this (not that I think it'll make a difference with trolls) journal.neilgaiman.com/2009/05/entitl...

journal.neilg..."

a good article, but that presumes the people involved are reasonable human beings and will take the time to read it. A picture is much harder to ignore.

Cookie wrote: "Marykay wrote: "I have decided book three is a vanishing twin--

When one twin dies in utero early in pregancy, there is the idea and sense of twin , a mother's grief wrapped in expectation of a se..."

You guys are shitty "fans". He is writing a book and like the others it will be damn good. So stop complaining. This is why he doesn't talk about book 3.

Pat -
Whining? Get a grip you egomaniacal jerk - you treat your fans like crap, denigrate them every time the topic of why you're the only fantasy writer who can't finish his trilogy, then tell us boring BS stories about the conventions you went to and where you were treated like a god.
Newsflash - you aren't. In fact, you are't a particularly notable fantasy writer. Do a search on Amazon Kindle fantasy section for coming of age stories, and you'll see you're just another little fish in a big pond, a goldfish who thinks he's a shark.
In short, you are an A hole Pat, and I think you are turning on your fans, who brought you the acclaim you for better or worse, get for the 1st 2 books. The 3rd - were you on acid when you wrote that? (The Slow Regard of Silent Things - if you hadn't written the 2 other books first, I don't think you could have gotten it published.)
So, go to your little cons and enjoy the teenie bopper worship - No one cares!
I could name 10 fantasy writers who have written trilogies with the same amount or more of words, who were far more prolific, and who's books were put out in a reasonable amount of time (say 3 years) and kick your books to the curb. Robert Jordan for one off of the top of my head.

You're the literature version of the one hit wonder bands who's first song was at the top of the charts for years, but couldn't write a successful song after that and just faded away into obscurity.

If by some miracle (or more likely, you hire a ghost writer) you do finish Doors of Stone, I will not buy it, unless it's to keep in case of a zombie apocalypse and the worlds supply of toilet paper runs out.

Whining? Read your own blog lately, you hack?

Heath wrote: "I remember when Jordan died. I was devestated, thank God Sanderson finished it.

I want this book bad. I love Rothfuss atleast his writing but he is an asshole and he should at least give us a sta..."

Ashley wrote: "Cookie wrote: "Marykay wrote: "I have decided book three is a vanishing twin--

When one twin dies in utero early in pregancy, there is the idea and sense of twin , a mother's grief wrapped in expe..."

You'll love my post - personally, I don't think I'm a shitty fan - Pat's a shitty author. And an ungrateful one at that. We, the readers who loved the first two books, are the ones financing his lifestyle which I'm guessing went from zero to 90 on a 1-100 scale, and he has the nerve to tell us we are whiney? Get a grip, he's just one author among many, is ungrateful for the acclaim we granted him, ( accurate statement - if he had no fans, he'd just be another struggling author) and he rubs it in our faces when he tells his asinine stories of the Cons he's gone to where he was treated like a god by "fans" who haven't read very many fantasy epic coming of age stories so they think he is the best author in the world.

An authors job is to write. If he wants to become a professional fantasy Con personality touring the country, basking in the glow of teeny boppers, he should just say so - if you don't, or can't, write, are you an Author? Is your primary income from the previous books you've sold? (And any income you generate at the Con's exists only because of us, your fans) Are you smart enough to realize that your last book was crap, and know you're riding your own coat tails from previous books and know the longer you wait, the more likely it is your book will be successful if you string your fans along? If that's an accurate description (and in this case, I believe it is) you're an unscrupulous hack.

And who do you think you are that you're able to judge who is a fan or not? You certainly do not have the right to slander people with opinions that differ from your own.

Joecrash411 wrote: "Whining? Get a grip you egomaniacal jerk

If you had taken a moment to read the preface of 'Slow Regard', you'll notice that he goes out of his way to let the audience know that he expects the book is too odd for the tastes of most, but he released it anyway for those who would get it. Yes, the psyche of a mentally disturbed girl is a little alien. That was the premise.

If you had taken a moment to read the comments on this post, you would have seen the link to the article by Neil Gaiman where he plainly lays out the fallacies of your presumptions on an author's lifestyle.

Further, if you had taken a moment to read the news, you would have seen that Mr. Rothfuss has recently signed a major movie deal, unlike the majority of those Kindle fantasy authors
http://www.tor.com/2015/10/01/patrick...

In short, as someone who is taking the time to write an elaborate complaint about a book, perhaps you might want to actually learn to read.

Joecrash411 wrote: "I totally agree with you - and congrats to posting an opinion that is not just blindly following the herd, and have enough integrity to voice an opinion that may not be popular."

Did you just....reply to your own comment lol

Mark wrote: "Joecrash411 wrote: "Whining? Get a grip you egomaniacal jerk

If you had taken a moment to read the preface of 'Slow Regard', you'll notice that he goes out of his way to let the audience know that..."

Mark -
The post you so vehemently hate was a direct response to something Pat wrote about his fans.
And, while you may be able to read, your critical reasoning skills need work - you just argued the merits of my opinion yourself, all while thinking you were insulting me! "you would have seen that Mr. Rothfuss has recently signed a major movie deal"
- Do you actually think he would be that he would be signing a movie - not just a movie, but a "major!" movie! if not for his fans?
"Mr. Rothfuss has recently signed a major movie deal, unlike the majority of those Kindle fantasy authorsAs far as miligning Kindle authors, you may want to actually see who publishes with them - your hero Pat is one of them! - way to display your ignorance! (And that is NOT a personal attack - I am simply pointing out the fallacy of your arguments)



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Joecrash411 wrote: "An authors job is to write..."

Alright, you're concerned with critical reasoning. Let's start with this.

An author is "the writer of a literary work". An author's only obligation is to his publishing contract, if any. So no one can dictate the lifestyle he lives as he continues his artistic endeavors, and it is arrogant to presume that he should live as we want him to simply because we read a book he made.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dicti...

Furthermore, what possible outcome could you expect from blasting Rothfuss on social media? He's made it clear he tries to ignore such interactions, and that he'll release the book only when it meets his own personal standards of quality.

Are you trying to prove that his going about his life his own way makes him a bad person? If so, I'm going to need a far better source than 'one blog post he called out whiny fans as whiny'.

Furthermore, even if I accepted your premise that Patrick Rothfuss is a bad person, does it follow that I'd thus want to deprive myself of future books that I enjoy? I have a lot of problems with the political views of Orson Scott Card, but I still happily check out his books at the library.

Really, it seems like you're just having a bad day. Instead of continuing to complain, why not go get yourself a hot chocolate and curl up with a fantasy book that HAS been released. Thus may your negativity be dissipated in a more productive way.

Cookie - no, that was supposed to be a remark on your post, sorry if I made things confusing! ;-)
I was applauding your bravery in posting a remark that 99% of Rothfuss fans would label you a troll for.

Joecrash411 wrote: "I was applauding your bravery in posting a remark that 99% of Rothfuss fans would label you a troll..."

I think you misunderstood me (if you're talking about my throne comment). I would use that pic as a response to people hating on Pat for book 3 because that would be my personal response to someone demanding I release a work of art before it was ready as if theyre entitled to every second of my life. That wasnt meant to be indication of Pat's response to fans because I truly believe that Pat feels bad that book 3 isn't complete yet, and that he'll let us know when it is.

I was just using Pat's visage to project my frustration with everyone making obnoxious, self-centered comments :)

Ok. Everyone is entitled to their opinion - it's just attacking those with an opinion that you don't agree with that bothers me. My post has been up what, 1.5 hours? And I've been called names twice already?
Interesting ... well, whatever - I made my opinion totally clear, to those who are offended by it - tough. I have as much right as you to express an opinion here.

Joecrash411 wrote: "Ok. Everyone is entitled to their opinion - it's just attacking those with an opinion that you don't agree with that bothers me. My post has been up what, 1.5 hours? And I've been called names twic..."

You're right! You do have a right to express your opinion on Pat, same as I have my right to express my distaste for how vitriolic your comments are.

Having the right to state your opinion doesn't excuse that opinion from being challenged.

Cookie wrote: Having the right to state your opinion doesn't excuse that opinion from being challenged.
Quoted for Truth.

I'm curious, what was the latest status update for the book? Like, has he said, I'm half way done, or something of that nature? I imagine, realistically, it's got to be ready to ship out to the editors, unless he's been having a case of writer's block

Marcus wrote: "I'm curious, what was the latest status update for the book? Like, has he said, I'm half way done, or something of that nature? I imagine, realistically, it's got to be ready to ship out to the edi..."

Heres a summary of his book 3 Q&A from last week.

https://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerCh...

Thank you kindly

Mark wrote: "Cookie wrote: Having the right to state your opinion doesn't excuse that opinion from being challenged.
Quoted for Truth.
"

Exactly - so why don't you and all the rest of your little cult use your brain when responding - all of you did not just state your opinion, you made a personal attack on me, because I have the audacity to voice a different world view than yours. And, I did not resort to name calling when explaining how Mark(?) whatever the hell his name is - I don't care - explaining just how poorly he made what was supposed to be a cutting/scathing response to my opinion, and ended up arguing for my point of view but he was either not able to, or chose to take things out of context from my post.
And Cookie, you certainly suprise me, by posting that stick figure cartoon - if you'll take the blinders off, I said that I was congratulating you on voicing YOUR OWN OPINION IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT THE TROLLS IN THIS FORUM WOULD HAPPILY LYNCH YOU, ALL THE WHILE PURPORTING THEY WERE THE ONLY ONES WHO COULD VOICE AN OPINION, EVERYONE ELSE IS JUST PLANE TOO STUPID OR CAN'T READ. (which that epitome of rational thought and and respectful discourse said about me.

I'm so amused, and at the same time appalled and terrified that there are people who are so close minded and yes, I will state this: stupid (the lack of the ability to debate one side of an opinion is not ignorance, it's stupidity) on a website devoted to books! of all things! Books, you know, those things that can provide a moral compass, ethics, and rational thought.

But while scary, thanks for giving me a good laugh on a rainy day,
How many books do YOU have on your book case Cookie? How about you Mark?

Instead of worrying what my opinion is, why don't you go take care of your own business?

Have a wonderful and enlightening evening and last day of the weekend.

Joe

Joecrash411 wrote: " Cookie, you certainly suprise me, by posting that stick figure cartoon .."

I didnt post that comic but I wholeheartedly agree with it, so by all means keep jumping down my throat.

Thanks for the link to the Q&A. I am impressed by the courage Mr. Rothfuss had to answer so many difficult questions. There seemed to be a glimmer of disquiet- a desperation ? - or maybe I have been up all night and reading between the lines. Hope he is able to pause, rebuild, enjoy his children's laughter--- find a balance.

I delivered a baby in the middle of the night whose father is on another Afghanistan tour. A mother laboring alone has a deep poignancy for me- and certainly highlights how silly my whining has been.

It does not change my status as a book junkie- "i want what inwant when I want it"--- i am powerless over a good story and my whining is unmanageable.