An Appropriate Dosage of Hope.

So I’m downstairs, making breakfast for me and the boys.

This is an elaborate and arcane process. It involves more wandering in and out of rooms than you might expect, and trying to remember what I meant to do there. Plus a fair amount of esoteric behavior like looking for a spoon that I’m sure I was just holding…. but it’s not here anymore. Was I holding it? Is this a Matrix thing? Was it some sort of fucking magical elf-spoon?

(It was not a magical elf-spoon. Alas.)

Some of the reason for thi...

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message 1: by Mark (new)

Mark No, no magic, no elves. Not even a dimensional thing or alternate universe thing. All it is, my talented friend, is "has anyone seen my glasses?" or "has anyone seen my car keys?" And we all know where those things turn out to be. The spoon? I'd check the sink. Or in your hand? Oh! There it is in the bowl!

Now remote controls... Those are a different phenomena all together.


message 2: by Stefan (last edited Sep 30, 2021 12:26AM) (new)

Stefan The "Appropriate Dosage of Hope" is zero if you are hoping for a book out of Rothfuss. Or book related news or something resembling a progress report or really anything related to writing in general.
We left the "trolling" territory years ago and reached the "what-are-you-doing-on- my-lawn" state some time ago.


message 3: by Fasan (new)

Fasan Why are people on goodreads so toxic and mean? Is this the north american culture? I think this is a platform for readers and books. So, why on earth are people not able to read through the whole blogpost and come up with an intelligent reply? Of course, the P. Rothfuss blog is about his life or personal glimpses of his life. Just like the streams on twitch. The other logical result would be complete silence. Do you people want that? Just enjoy the fact, that this writer is sharing information. I am very glad for this, because other writers like Donna Tartt are not in the public web space at all (sharing slice of life pieces), and most authors write about business stuff and events or analyze stuff. No personal little quirks and insights.

I hope that some day in the future, Mr. Rothfuss makes a collection of his 'blog entries about my children and life' and turns them into a cute book with some illustrations. Of course, this would be something different and outside the fantasy genre, but since I enjoyed his remarks at the end of 'Slow Regard ...', written in June 2014 this surely would be a blessing.


message 4: by Aurelia (new)

Aurelia Rahme Fasan wrote: "Why are people on goodreads so toxic and mean? Is this the north american culture? I think this is a platform for readers and books. So, why on earth are people not able to read through the whole b..."

I don't think people realise that Patrick is his story and Kvothe is a part of Patrick. Many authors have tons of stories that they can churn out and that's why people are so demanding. Guys, the man is human. With a life. Be grateful he talks to us at all. And if you guys continue to be dicks about it, the less likely he'll feel inclined to finish Kvothe's story. How do people not get this?


message 5: by Katelb1123 (new)

Katelb1123 Friends, we are all eager for the 3rd book in the trilogy! In the meantime, don't spit in the face of a person who is sharing his life.

When someone gives you gift you don't like, just be gracious.


message 6: by Jeroen (new)

Jeroen Seynaeve It's so funny to go an read comments on any Rothfuss post.
I don't understand why he even bothers anymore.
No-one will read any of it until he delivers THE book.


message 7: by Jakob (new)

Jakob Johnson To all the people bitching about there not being book 3 in the comments of this really sweet blog post- just curious, how many books have you written? Yeah, stop complaining then.


message 8: by Katelb1123 (new)

Katelb1123 Jakob wrote: "To all the people bitching about there not being book 3 in the comments of this really sweet blog post- just curious, how many books have you written? Yeah, stop complaining then."

Well said!


message 9: by [deleted user] (last edited Sep 14, 2021 12:03AM) (new)

Twerking wrote: "I'm not American. I just enjoy a little bit of piss-taking at the expense of a filthy rich north American neckbeard who told me to fuck off and die."

I wonder why he did that.

He owes you nothing. You paid for a book, then another.

You got your two books-worth for you money.

He made no contract with you to ever cater to your or anyone else's needs.

Stop being an asshole.

Don't fuck off. Go enjoy the world as best you can and stop pestering authors who owe you exactky ZERO things.

*Spoiler. You'll die, eventually. Make the most of your time, and I'm willing to bet that's not being an asshole to people on the internet,


message 10: by [deleted user] (new)

Jeroen wrote: "It's so funny to go an read comments on any Rothfuss post.
I don't understand why he even bothers anymore.
No-one will read any of it until he delivers THE book."


Yet, here you all are. To be "entitled" and "snappy" because "clever" or "incisive" you aren't.


message 11: by sk3erkrou (new)

sk3erkrou Jakob Johnson wrote: "To all the people bitching about there not being book 3 in the comments of this really sweet blog post- just curious, how many books have you written? Yeah, stop complaining then."

I've written exactly as many books as I've promised I will write: 0. Rothfuss has promised a third book and has not fulfilled that promise in 10 years. But, in the meantime he works on all these other projects and, at one time, was even in talks to have Kingkiller turned into a media franchise of two movies with a TV series connecting between them, and a video game. So he's in talks for all these things, but he can't finish the damn story first.


message 12: by Michael (new)

Michael Anthony White I feel the word "arcane" is so underused; so many lost opportunities to have otherwise enhanced subject matter with the whimsy of the obscure 🔥😁❤

But then, I suppose that's what makes it special.

Michael Anthony White


message 13: by Opalfruit (new)

Opalfruit Yeah, I twitch and go oooh when Patrick posts. Damn this author who's living a full life and prioritising his family and wellbeing over the demands of his readership. The fiend, with his teasing posts that relate to the real world and not his constructed one.

I've got two books waiting to be re-read when a publishing date is set in stone. My memory of them is fading, they will be a joy to re-read. When I have book three in my hands and have the previous two fresh in my imagination it will be a wonderful moment. I can wait.


message 14: by Christopher (new)

Christopher Bates Twerking wrote: "Txabier wrote: "Twerking wrote: "I'm not American. I just enjoy a little bit of piss-taking at the expense of a filthy rich north American neckbeard who told me to fuck off and die."

I wonder why ..."


Dude, you need to find another outlet, because I don't think reading book 3 of a fictional (but amazing, obviously) trilogy is going to magically turn you from a grumpy sounding person into a born again gentleman.

Can't wait for book 3. If it doesn't arrive though, maybe, just maybe, I'll survive.


Maybe


message 15: by Chris (last edited Sep 15, 2021 05:49AM) (new)

Chris A Aurelia wrote: "I don't think people realise that Patrick is his story and Kvothe is a part of Patrick. Many authors have tons of stories that they can churn out and that's why people are so demanding. Guys, the man is human. With a life. Be grateful he talks to us at all. And if you guys continue to be dicks about it, the less likely he'll feel inclined to finish Kvothe's story. How do people not get this?."

What the hell kind of masochistic dolts are commenting here... we should be GRATEFUL that some guy who happens to have written a couple of good books (but who has completely left his fans hanging because he claimed a TRILOGY) "talks to us at all"?!!!

Most people DO NOT GIVE A SHIT if Rothfuss "talks to them" or types little tidbits about his home life! People only know who Rothfuss is BECAUSE of his books...WHICH HE APPEARS TO HAVE GIVEN UP ON, and he has shown his utter distain for those who paid for his books by not fulfilling his promise of a trilogy.

Authors write books... Rothfuss is no longer an author. MOST People like and follow Rothfuss BECAUSE of his books... therefore, MOST people don't have any reason to like or respect or be "GRATEFUL" for anything that comes out of Rothfuss's mouth or fingers other than THE THIRD OF THE TRILOGY.


message 16: by Christopher (new)

Christopher Bates It's just a book chief


message 17: by Chris (new)

Chris A Txabier wrote: "I wonder why he did that.

He owes you nothing. You paid for a book, then another.

You got your two books-worth for you money.

He made no contract with you to ever cater to your or anyone else's needs.

Stop being an asshole.

Don't fuck off. Go enjoy the world as best you can and stop pestering authors who owe you exactky ZERO things.

*Spoiler. You'll die, eventually. Make the most of your time, and I'm willing to bet that's not being an asshole to people on the internet,

"


Take your own advice, asshole to people on the internet.


message 18: by Beatriz (new)

Beatriz I really don't get why people make so much fuss over the time he's taking to make the 3rd book. Because first of all, he's not obliged to. I'd rather wait 20 more years than read some shitty wrap up to the series just for the sake of it, because I actually care and I'm pretty sure Pat cares way much more. And I bet that's precisely what puts so much pressure on him about it.
Besides, didn't he took like 14 years on the making of the first book? Maybe internet time warp wrecked your impacient and unkind brains enough to be giving a man so much crap for posting sweet things about his children to whoever WANTS to read it. Idk anymore.


message 19: by Chris (new)

Chris A Beatriz wrote: "I really don't get why people make so much fuss over the time he's taking to make the 3rd book. Because first of all, he's not obliged to. I'd rather wait 20 more years than read some shitty wrap u..."

Because when an author states he is writing a trilogy that author is entering a verbal contract of sorts with his readers that he will actually complete said trilogy within a reasonable amount of time.

Now, "a reasonable amount of time" is relative, I know, but the fact that so many people have grown impatient is good evidence that Patrick has failed to uphold his end of his contract with said readers. Pat's a big boy (literally and figuratively), and he deserves the criticism he is getting. If he doesn't want to be criticized, then he should get on with writing his book.

There is absolutely no valid excuse as to why Pat could not have released SOMETHING related to his trilogy in this time, even if it was not the final book. I'm sure his readers would have appreciated some other, shorter, background info or something just to keep them interested and connected.

If you're fine with authors taking 30 years to finish a measly trilogy, then you are the exception, not the rule.

Why do you feel as if your feelings about the issue are more valid than all of the people that feel like they've been let down by this author's ridiculously slow pace of writing? Maybe it is you who is being a bit judgmental...


message 20: by Ryan (new)

Ryan Kennedy No one cares write a book.


message 21: by Geoff (new)

Geoff Clark There are a lot of Annie Wilkes out there


message 22: by Chris (new)

Chris A Personally, I gave up on Rothfuss years ago. If he ever writes the 3rd book, I'm sure I'll read it, but I just figure him for another loser who can't or won't finish what he started OR someone who'd rather sell the rights to HBO like Martin and then never finish his own story.

Whatever...I guess he's gotta feed his family first and foremost, but dude... nobody gives a shit about his family any more than some random douchebag posting pics of their ugly kids and pets on Facebook.


message 23: by Chris (new)

Chris A Twerking wrote: "I'll bet you a tenner, he won't be finishing book #3 EVER...unless Brandon Sanderson furtively sneaks in, that is. And, in 2050, there'll still be dogooders scolding every single bastard daring to ..."

I will NOT take that bet!


message 24: by Steven (new)

Steven As annoying and unhelpful as the people who yell at Rothfuss to finish the book are, the people who act like he bears no responsibility for the consternation of this whole process are just as annoying and even less sensible. Rothfuss set up expectations for when to expect the book, jump forward ten years and we know nothing more than what we did back then except that this trilogy is supposed to be a prologue of sorts (you can imagine my skepticism). George Martin at least gives reassurances that he's working on it. Why he continues to keep fans in the dark I don't know but I hope he carefully considered this path. If he ever releases the book I'll buy it, if he doesn't then it no longer matters to me.


message 25: by Chris (new)

Chris A Steven wrote: "As annoying and unhelpful as the people who yell at Rothfuss to finish the book are, the people who act like he bears no responsibility for the consternation of this whole process are just as annoy..."

Completely reasonable.


message 26: by Vernon (new)

Vernon Fasan wrote: "Why are people on goodreads so toxic and mean? Is this the north american culture? I think this is a platform for readers and books. So, why on earth are people not able to read through the whole b..."

It is because of the wait time.


message 27: by Christopher (new)

Christopher Bates So many ppl upset over a book. I understand you get emotionally invested and I would love for there to be an end to the story, but honestly is it all worth berating and insulting someone over?

Stop debasing yourselves, read a different book, or just don't read his boring bloody blog posts.

Anything is better than vilifying someone who has at some level brought you immense pleasure through his work.

I want McDonald's to bring back their chocolate pudding with ice cream but I'm not going to hurl insults at Ronald.


message 28: by Derpa (new)

Derpa I just love how people act like you can't work if you have a family. It's not even like his work means being away on an oil rig for months at a time.
Are we pretending we don't know normal people do work even when they have kids? It's not some insane idea, like woah, poor guy has to WOOOORK.


message 29: by Chris (new)

Chris A Christopher wrote: "I want McDonald's to bring back their chocolate pudding with ice cream but I'm not going to hurl insults at Ronald."

Terrible analogy, Chris, because Ronald never made the implicit promise of an even better treat that would build on the chocolate pudding w/ ice cream and blow your mind, but ONLY if you spent money and plenty of time eating the first treat.

Here's what the Rothfuss scenario is more akin to:

There's these super hot twins that you know from down the street... you're fortunate enough to go out with Twin A and after taking her out for the night she gives you oral and says, "and THIS is just the beginning...it gets better the more you invest in me!"

Next time, after you take her on a weekend trip to Cabo, she actually has sex with you! As you are lying in bed afterwards she says, "That was NOTHING! Because next we invite my "Twin" and we build on what we did PLUS we do things to you that you can't even IMAGINE (she's not actually a twin, just a foreign exchange student that looks just like Twin A, but she's actually even HOTTER!)!!!

So you take her out, and wait... and wait... and wait... but for the next TEN YEARS she just texts you and blogs about her daily life and every time you remind her of her promise she says she has a headache...she says her "twin" is out of town, etc., and even worse, you see her spending with other guys instead...

Yeah, that analogy sucks too... but at least it follow the same pattern as the Trilogy that was not to be.


message 30: by Stu (new)

Stu Lol I'm actually over the book myself. If he releases the next one, I'll read it. In the meantime, there's more important things in life to be concerned about. And tons of other books in this world to keep me satisfied.


message 31: by Chris (new)

Chris A I think most people are over the book after 10 years... the only reason I even look here is because back when I read the books I must have subscribed to something here, so I usually get an alert when Pat posts some inane horseshit.

I suppose I should find where I did that and unsubscribe.

Goodbye, everyone... goodbye, Patrick.


message 32: by Gary (new)

Gary I'm over it to, Chris, and have already donated the first two books to my local library. So many other great writers and great books waiting. Moving forward. Peace to everyone.


message 33: by Dawn (new)

Dawn Folley Joe Abercrombie , The Wisdom of Crowds is out now. Just about to order from this genius. Writing is a job. We all do displacement activity when work becomes a chore. Most of us don't get 10 years to do it. Oh and Scott Lynch, another gentleman with writers' block has published number 4. Well done gentlemen.


message 34: by Ryan (new)

Ryan Kennedy When a writer tells you he's writing a trilogy and asks you to buy his books before it's complete and then goes 10 years without finishing he's breaking a promise to his readers i think he should refund everyone the money they spent on the first two books.


message 35: by sk3erkrou (new)

sk3erkrou Dawn wrote: "Joe Abercrombie , The Wisdom of Crowds is out now. Just about to order from this genius. Writing is a job. We all do displacement activity when work becomes a chore. Most of us don't get 10 years t..."

I don't think Lynch has published The Thorn of Emberlain yet, but at least he was candid about dealing with mental health issues and basically disappeared from posting to deal with those issues, except for a post here and there, whereas Rothfuss is constantly posting about doing other things than writing his book.


message 36: by Colton (new)

Colton Nibbe Love you Pat.

Thank you for the awesome window into your life, I love these posts and anybody who says they're pointless has lost a good deal of joy in their feelers.

You're the best, thanks for everything! Can't wait for my partner to finish Wise Man's Fear so we can go onto The Lightning Tree and The Slow Regard of Silent Things together. We're going to read those to each other before bed, it'll be so cute.

I promise once we have finished those we won't turn on you and comment using only the rigid parts of our souls like daggers of frozen betrayers.


message 37: by Derpa (new)

Derpa Twerking wrote: "I laughed. Hard."

My soul is a dagger of frozen betrayal, thank you very much. I also use it to open the cans of my dog's food.


message 38: by Susanne (new)

Susanne I was ready to just sigh at another meaningless post from Rothfuss floating by and not dwell on it, but I am astonished at how many people in the comments honestly believe Pat can just do as he likes and 'doesn't owe us anything'.

I had a whole wall of text typed out, but I'll keep it short and simple:

1: He promised the readers a third book. He even promised it was 'nearly done'. He lied, and he still owes readers this promised third part of the trilogy.

2: He definitely signed a contract with his publishers for a third book. He probably already got paid for writing this book. Every year he decides not to deliver this third book, the potential profit is most probably lowered.

3: When you berate your fans, refuse to answer any questions about progress, all the while sharing all the other things you are doing instead, you're just a shit person.

Conclusion: Rothfuss is a liar, not a good person & he owes his publishers (contractually) and readers a third book. The longer it takes to deliver, the more readers are going to complain and eventually just give up on him. The entire trilogy has already been soured for me because of his antics.


message 39: by Derpa (new)

Derpa Susanne wrote: "I was ready to just sigh at another meaningless post from Rothfuss floating by and not dwell on it, but I am astonished at how many people in the comments honestly believe Pat can just do as he lik..."

And also, publishers/readers will trust new authors less.


message 40: by Susanne (new)

Susanne Derpa wrote: "And also, publishers/readers will trust new authors less."

I didn't even think of that, but yeah. Rothfuss is the first author I ever encountered where I started reading a series that just... didn't get finished, and it definitely makes it so that I'm more wary about new authors. I'll probably wait more often for them to actually complete a series before I start reading it, and I won't find it strange if more readers decide/have decided to do that.

Publishers are always taking on a risk with a new author, and cases like this one probably aren't helping.

I mean, Rothfuss is far from the only one to not finish his series within a decent timeframe (GRRM, Scott Lynch, heck even Robert Jordan didn't finish his own series before he died), but he's probably one of the most infamous authors because of how badly he's been handling it so far.


message 41: by sk3erkrou (last edited Sep 23, 2021 08:52AM) (new)

sk3erkrou Susanne wrote: ""GRRM, Scott Lynch, heck even Robert Jordan didn't finish his own series before he died"

Here is where I see the differences between Rothfuss and these other authors. GRRM gives updates about what he's working on. Scott Lynch was perfectly candid about his mental health issues when the first delay happened, which already set the expectation that he may never get back to it. Robert Jordan put books out consistently up until his cancer diagnosis and death. I also find it hard to fault someone for not finishing a series because they died.

Rothfuss, on the other hand, insults his fans who want book 3, has given absolutely no updates, and is constantly working on other, mostly non-writing projects.


message 42: by Susanne (new)

Susanne Kyle wrote: "Susanne wrote: ""GRRM, Scott Lynch, heck even Robert Jordan didn't finish his own series before he died"

Here is where I see the differences between Rothfuss and these other authors. GRRM gives up..."


I completely agree. It's what I meant with Rothfuss handling the situation so badly.
And of course you cannot fault an author for not finishing a series when they died while still writing. I think it's immensely commendable that Jordan even updated his notes well enough so that another writer could take over and finish his series. That is dedication.


message 43: by David (new)

David I wish he would just admit "I will never finish this thing" and put the optimists (and pessimists) out of their misery


message 44: by Dawn (new)

Dawn Folley Phil Rickman, great writer, broadcaster. Had a stroke recently. Still published his book. A little late but still fabulous. Some person recently communicated to Queen Elizabeth the second that they were truly sorry for her loss. QE2 does not care about some anonymous someone else's opinion. By reading the blogs of the famous, the celebrated, we all feel a little of the "star dust". Intimate. We all crave our 15 minutes of fame. When I lose stuff it's just irritating not funny or sweet or even a source for a memoir. Go out there people, leave Mr Rothfuss to his stuff. Read great books. Wonder at a rainbow, make someone happy.. You know the kind of thing.


message 45: by Beatriz (new)

Beatriz lol again, so weird to me to read grown people (i assume), whining, "demanding" for a book. he took several years making the first one. what makes you think it would take much less to write the bigger, more complex, next one? is there nothing else going on in our lives for you to worry SO much about this next book? he is not indebted to us in any way, shape or form. he's writing a piece of art, i suppose. (and with a LOT of pressure to it). if you want it (and especially if you want it to be great), wait for it. if you don't have the patience, just forget about it and move on. we have not yet payed for the 3rd book. and every one bought the first ones of their own free will. do you find his posts boring? do not read, stop following him or whatever. but i cannot fathom why waste time dispensing hostility about something like this.


message 46: by Stefan (new)

Stefan João wrote: "What do you get out of being an asshole to a complete stranger?"

Considering you just called me an "asshole", while I commented on a Rothfusses relentless trolling, you tell me, person who I never met .


message 47: by Bookfairy (new)

Bookfairy Whew, I only saw a little bit of the angry backlash, which was enough. I find it interesting someone is complaining about a blog post and the lack of a novel, along with complaining an author has money. MOST authors aren't super wealthy, and I'm pretty sure Mr. Rothfuss is still floating around upper middle-class. Comfortable, but not swimming in FU money. Writing is hard, and I do understand a reader's frustration, but writing simple or silly blog posts can be a helpful tool in getting a book done, it's not that much of a distraction.
Anyway, it sounds like a nice morning, if a bit confounding.


message 48: by Bookfairy (new)

Bookfairy Susanne wrote: "I was ready to just sigh at another meaningless post from Rothfuss floating by and not dwell on it, but I am astonished at how many people in the comments honestly believe Pat can just do as he lik..."

I also agree with you, but writing is a really complex mix of art and logic. If it doesn't feel ready, it's hard to force it. On the other hand, he probably feels all those pressures, and is dealing with the backlash--the only people he can really tell off are the internet trolls (obviously it doesn't help, but I can understand the urge).

Hopefully it will be finished soon, and he can work on more fun (for him) projects, with less pressure.


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