If you want to talk about avoidance or procrastinating, why tell me why, have you not finished the trilogy? It’s not a trilogy if there’s only two. Please, when will you go back to finish the amazing trilogy you started?

Don't you know that each time people say something like this, he kills a Stark?

oh wait...

Vadim wrote: "Don't you know that each time people say something like this, he kills a Stark?

oh wait..."
Hahaha I guess we may never know🤷🏼‍♀️ I guess it's pretty naive of me to think that my comment might motivate him to get back to finishing what he started. But, I had to at least try.

did you read the post in which he talked about his mental health struggles, one of which being the permanent anxiety from people harassing him about book three? jesus, people, he's a human, not a novel machine. have some empathy.

I believe, as much as you enjoy other stuff you do, you still have an obligation to your fans, to finally get the third Killer Chronicles book out. How about it?

Danielle wrote: "did you read the post in which he talked about his mental health struggles, one of which being the permanent anxiety from people harassing him about book three? jesus, people, he's a human, not a n..."

No, I missed that one... I was not trying to add more fuel to the fire. I was hoping to inspire.

I was also diagnosed with ADHD. Its always been there but it took me to be in my adult years before I finally spoke to someone about it. Huge game changer and brought a lot of light to things that could now make sense. Thanks for speaking up and sharing about it.

This is pretty cool. Excited for you and everyone part of the project. <3

Danielle wrote: "did you read the post in which he talked about his mental health struggles, one of which being the permanent anxiety from people harassing him about book three? jesus, people, he's a human, not a n..."

I am torn over this. I definitely see both sides. I absolutely respect the importance of mental health and am very sensitive to struggles in regard to disorders related to mental health. With that said, Mr. Rothfuss has gained an incredible amount of fame, not to mention wealth, based on the success of the first two books of an advertised trilogy. With it being over a decade of waiting now, it feels almost like false advertising. The beloved status that the story has with so many people... it almost feels like a slap in the face when we are told "it is done when it is done, get over it". It is akin to a celebrity in other industries that make comments against their fans, forgetting how much they possess that they owe to them. Maybe I am way off base, and I apologize if I am, but those are honest feelings. If there was more transparency regarding the third novel, it would go a long way.

got to say, that's a great post by Christopher. The false advertising piece is a new angle which sums up my own strong but unformed feelings.

I bought the books, bought the audiobooks, bought the books for my sister in USA, bought the books for a friends birthday and I would not have read them at all if it had been clear that PR would just not ever finish the series.

Yes, there are arguments to say don't hassle him as he doesn't owe us anything, but actually, when hundreds, thousands, hundreds of thousands and possibly millions of us have all contributed to his success, there is an implied social contract to finish the journey he started. This last particularly as he said he had all 3 novels written years ago and was just tuning it.

After 11 years, and remaining consistently in the public eye, the patience begins to stretch.

Harassing him is in no way motivation. I love this series too, but he doesn’t owe us anything.

Besides, there are literally thousands of other series to read in the meantime. Occupy yourselves with those.

“I believe, as much as you enjoy other stuff you do, you still have an obligation to your fans, to finally get the third Killer Chronicles book out.”
I am well aware that it isn’t your singular opinion but wonder: Where this sense of entitlement comes from? An obligation, really? Didn’t you love the 2 amazing books you got to read??? Maybe you can express your gratitude for that instead of harassing the writer. Authors are not obligated to do anything for the readers. And if you call yourself a fan, how about being a nice human and trying to understand and care for the human who wrote those amazing books? Don’t be like Ambrose, be like Kvothe.

I fully agree that beginning a series with the promise of a set number of books and a completion to the story is a tacit contract with his readership, not to mention the actual physical contract he no doubt has with his publisher. I appreciate letting creatives take their time to produce their art, but substantive updates at least a time or two a year seems like a bare minimum to me. I respect everyone's opinion on this matter and the associated mental health concerns, but maybe he'd feel better about it and have less anxiety if he followed through with his commitments to a restless fan base.

Sarah wrote: "If you want to talk about avoidance or procrastinating, why tell me why, have you not finished the trilogy? It’s not a trilogy if there’s only two. Please, when will you go back to finish the amazi..."

yo chill

I’m not going to read anything else from this dude. Starting a series that will never finish is a waste of my time. So, go ahead and finish your trilogy because I don’t give a shit. I will not read it.

Alla wrote: "“I believe, as much as you enjoy other stuff you do, you still have an obligation to your fans, to finally get the third Killer Chronicles book out.”
I am well aware that it isn’t your singular opi..."
"Where this sense of entitlement comes from? “ It’s not a sense of entitlement. Pat had an agreement with his fans, and he has broken that agreement. The people who paid for a complete story feel lied to and cheated. We paid him money, and a lot of money at that, for a complete story. I don’t know about you but when I pay someone to read their story, I expect an ending. Granted this story is too large for one book so it was split into three parts. When we purchased the first book we entered into an agreement with Pat. Our agreement with Pat was we would pay for an unfinished story, with the promise that he would finish the story. There is no reason to be condescending to the people who are upset because they have been cheated. Here is an example for you that is not related to books.

You pay a contactor to remodel your kitchen. You pay 1/3 up front, 1/3 when they are halfway done and 1/3 when they are finished. Imagine how you would feel if they just stopped when they were halfway done and moved on to other jobs. You go in your kitchen every day and wonder why the contractor didn’t finish the job he started. Then you see the contractor starting a new kitchen remodel at your neighbor’s house, and you ask the contractor when are they going to finish your kitchen? They say that they are working on the schedule and will finish your kitchen sometime. Then your neighbor says, you got what you paid for where does this sense of entitlement come from?

Sarah wrote: "If you want to talk about avoidance or procrastinating, why tell me why, have you not finished the trilogy? It’s not a trilogy if there’s only two. Please, when will you go back to finish the amazi..."

"And of course, I’m not looking forward to the people who are going to come after me for doing *anything* other than working on Book Three. That’s a persistent dread. Every time I tweet, whenever I leave my house for a walk, I know there’s probably a 50/50 chance of someone coming up to me and asking me about it. Sometimes it’s just casual, sometimes it’s aggressive, but it’s always a possibility."

Thanks for your contribution Sarah.

Hicks2468 wrote: "Alla wrote: "“I believe, as much as you enjoy other stuff you do, you still have an obligation to your fans, to finally get the third Killer Chronicles book out.”
I am well aware that it isn’t your..."
The books are not your kitchen. Don’t tell me you read the first book keep wondering about the last. If you did, thats rather a strange way of living. And if you want to compare it to a kitchen then tell me, Do you eat the first course wondering about the dessert that is coming? So you just gobble up the first dish and a second in your excitement about the sweets? Hmmm, I see a problem in it, not in the person And you didn’t pay for the third one.

Alla wrote: "Hicks2468 wrote: "Alla wrote: "“I believe, as much as you enjoy other stuff you do, you still have an obligation to your fans, to finally get the third Killer Chronicles book out.”
I am well aware ..."
I know the books are not my kitchen LOL. It's an analogy to help with a paradigm shift. I tried to help you understand, but you clearly are here to white knight and criticize others. I'm blocking you now, I prefer intellectual discussions and debates GLHF.

Paulina wrote: "Harassing him is in no way motivation. I love this series too, but he doesn’t owe us anything.

Besides, there are literally thousands of other series to read in the meantime. Occupy yourselves wi..."

I agree. Sometimes the GR community saddens me. I do love Patrick’s first two books but I don’t feel that pressuring a creative is helpful at all. Although it comes from a good place it gets pretty toxic. Writing is hard…very hard. I’d love it if the trilogy ended up as a Quintet but Im not going to make snide comments on the things he does while the final book is quietly percolating away in his subconscious. I do feel sorry for Patrick for the flack he gets on here as it can’t be easy, so I send my love and patience to him. All I’m going to say is quality wins over quantity every time.

I love you and your writing Mr. Rothfuss. Your books were a wonderful escape for me during a harder time in my life. Don't feel stressed by people badgering you, I'm sure I'm not alone in saying that I am more than happy to wait for your third book, even if it takes another 10 years! It will be worth the wait I'm sure! :D

Paul wrote: "I fully agree that beginning a series with the promise of a set number of books and a completion to the story is a tacit contract with his readership, not to mention the actual physical contract he..."
The problem isn't not working on the book, the problem is that he wants the book to be as good as he wants it to be. Which is very hard, all things considered.
And regarding the obligation thing: the author's obligation is to give you the book you've purchased, for him to be obligated to provide another book, you'd need to be paying him for his work already. The sense of entitlement itself is damaging for his and others (George R. R. Martin) mental health. Writting is harder than just putting words on paper and not everyone is a compulsive outliner like Brandon Sanderson.
Just see this post, for example. He's not talking about book 3, yet it's the topic that everyone is going on about. That's too much unnecessary pressure.
Give the man his space for crying out loud.

C wrote: "There is a general misunderstanding here. Does Pat *owe* us book 3? Let's just say, for the sake of argument, no. Let us also note Bill Gates doesn't owe a $.01 to charity, and the next time a rand..."

I was with you up until the end, lol. I don't believe it to be any of those things you've listed (rude, immature...), I think he's struggling with it quite a bit because, as I see it, he's not being able to write his own book as well as he wants. That hurts quite a bit (saying from experience).
As far as I know (which isn't much) he sent a draft to his editor years ago but it was rejected or something (I dunno for sure) and that problably was a hard hit for him.
There's also plenty of things we can't say or know about his personal life and so on and so fourth, so I don't believe to be right of us to judge him based on his delay alone.
This is like saying that someone was rude for not saying hello to you and holding that against them without knowing the reason. Maybe they just lost a loved one and is processing it in their head. Maybe they've gone deaf. We can't know, so I don't believe it to be right to assume the worst case scenario.

With all being said, it's possible that you're right and that he's just enjoying the money his books brought him and using the delay of the next one to, I don't know, maintain himself relevant? Perhaps that's the case, but I rather not believe so.