Rejected Author’s Notes Part One: Beginnings and The Names of Things

Last night, I was going to post up a story about The Narrow Road Between Desires as a “review” over on goodreads. But logging in, I discovered there were already 200+ reviews on there.

Nobody’s actually read the book yet, obviously. It won’t be published until the 14th. Most of them were 1-star hate-reviews from people pissed it wasn’t Doors of Stone, which means the current rating for the book is around 2.1 stars.

Not gonna lie, took the wind out of my sails a bit. Sucks to have 200+ 1 star rev...

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Published on November 12, 2023 22:20
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message 1: by Mari (new)

Mari Don't listen to all those durks Patrick, The Narrow Road Between Desires is going to be a great book. I can't wait to read it !! :)


message 2: by Jeanne (new)

Jeanne This is the downside of social media. All that hate that pours out.... it's a disgrace that people prefer to be mean and nasty rather than supportive. Hang in there.


message 3: by ThisGuy (new)

ThisGuy You still have not apologized to donors of charity. Seriously, what is wrong with you that you think you’re a victim or your actions are appropriate?

You at any time could have issued a blog apology where everyone could see it.
You actively chose to ignore it. You actively decided that donors weren’t worth the time, not even for the chapter they paid for, but to even have the basic common courtesy to be acknowledged that what you did was wrong.

Instead, you say that you “feel bad”. Feeling bad isn’t an apology.
You aren’t the victim. The way YOU handled this is the problem. Others reacting more and more upset after YOU fail to acknowledge what you did for nearly 2 years isn’t the problem.

You keep saying that you have an unedited version of the chapter. Literally, everyone has asked you for it, but you STILL refuse the request of DONORS of YOUR charity who you took money from.

You’d be amazed at how forgiving MOST people are when they are treated with respect. The way all of us treated you for years until you kept being rude, dragging us along, and now stealing from us.

In the end, you won’t read this. You’ll have your echo chamber filter it for you so that instead of improving as a person, you can pretend to be a victim. At some point, you need to grow up and realize that everyone else isn’t the bully. You are, and we are finally sticking up for ourselves.


message 4: by Juan (new)

Juan Importante anotación.


message 5: by William (new)

William Lexner I'm your biggest defender, and I think you should take as long as you want to write -- but you owe people an apology for not following through on your charity. It's more embarrassing every day.


message 6: by Spencer (new)

Spencer Doyle William wrote: "I'm your biggest defender"

Why?


message 7: by Aldo (new)

Aldo I hope that beyond a complaint about the 200 "reviews" of a book that is appreciated but that no one was expecting... That this moment serves as a reflection and that you fulfill what you owe to the fans and no, I am not necessarily talking about Doors of Stone... I'm talking about the chapter that you owe us... And if it weren't too much, if Betsy Wollheim's words back in 2021 are true, I think that at least after all these years, it's something we deserve... Do you agree?.


message 8: by William (new)

William Lexner Spencer wrote: "William wrote: "I'm your biggest defender"

Why?"


I think Pat clearly suffers from mental illness and most of his attackers are giant assholes.


message 9: by ThisGuy (new)

ThisGuy William wrote: "Spencer wrote: "William wrote: "I'm your biggest defender"

Why?"

I think Pat clearly suffers from mental illness and most of his attackers are giant assholes."


It is super toxic to call scammed donors of charity assholes.


message 10: by William (last edited Nov 14, 2023 05:51AM) (new)

William Lexner Thanks for adding to the conversation, toxic garbage human.


message 11: by ThisGuy (last edited Nov 14, 2023 06:00AM) (new)

ThisGuy William wrote: "Thanks for adding to the conversation, toxic garbage human."

..seriously, why are Pat's fans so aggressive?
Why do they just insult people who didn't insult them?

Answer, they are in a parasocial cult. I suggest researching it. Very common for internet celebrities to develop these to defend themselves and maliciously attack when anyone criticizes them.


message 12: by Lloyd (new)

Lloyd At this point it is almost like Pat, George Martin, and Scott Lynch are in a competition to see who can string their fans along the longest. It's a joke, and will ultimately hurt them in the long run. If they ever do release their next books, at least I'll be able to read the others in the series and they'll feel new since it's been so damn long.


message 13: by Andrei (new)

Andrei Sima Pat, George Martin, and Scott Lynch hurt other authors you know? You can take it as negative, but a lot of people hesitate to read unfinished series because of these authors, so customers refuses to buy books to unfinished series because of these highly acclaimed series and highly popular, which often serves as an entry to fantasy books. Then publishers see books don't sell to they cancel it. Mark Lawrence talks on this topic in some of his posts. It sucks, but it's totally deserved.


message 14: by ThisGuy (last edited Nov 14, 2023 12:47PM) (new)

ThisGuy Andrei wrote: "Pat, George Martin, and Scott Lynch hurt other authors you know? You can take it as negative, but a lot of people hesitate to read unfinished series because of these authors, so customers refuses t..."

Don't forget.

Pat managed to destroy a father/daughter publisher. The ones that discovered, edited, and supported him. A number of authors lost their deals when this happened. His publisher/editor even went on a drunken rant how Pat was screwing them over.


message 15: by Chris (new)

Chris Lloyd wrote: "At this point it is almost like Pat, George Martin, and Scott Lynch are in a competition to see who can string their fans along the longest. It's a joke, and will ultimately hurt them in the long r..."

Scott Lynch has been open with his struggles with mental health - he's never promised content and not delivered so I don't like him grouped in with the others!


message 16: by ThisGuy (new)

ThisGuy Chris wrote: "Lloyd wrote: "At this point it is almost like Pat, George Martin, and Scott Lynch are in a competition to see who can string their fans along the longest. It's a joke, and will ultimately hurt them..."

^What this man said.

Scott Lynch is a good guy who has issues. Even George R Martin isn't cheating anyone, and the man is working on things.

Patrick Rothfuss is actively screwing donors of charity, refusing to discuss it, and censoring information about it whenever he can.

Remember "Authors aren't your bitch", but we aren't theirs either, and we deserve to be treated respectfully. Something Pat has not done.


message 17: by Samantha (new)

Samantha We love you Pat! Keep your head up, and keep doing you!


message 18: by Stefan (new)

Stefan It's really less about not writing the 3rd book, sure those people exist too, but it's more about the condescending treatment of fans, the lies, the unfulfilled promises, the kickstarter you took money for an then not published what you promised. Those things make people mad.
You can't divorce the writer from the written. Nobody reads "Mein Kampf" and goes I don't know about that "Hitler" dude but he makes a few good points about post colonial politics Africa.
Then your reaction is: "that bums me out, so I go to my homepage" where you control every input and all messaging and everything is fine, always, no criticism and no chance of self reflection or improvement ever.
The last thing more than anything is why I would warn people away from you. If you can't even acknowledge that there are good reasons why people are unhappy with you and your work, how will you ever start to begin to work to improve yourself.


message 19: by ThisGuy (new)

ThisGuy Stefan wrote: "It's really less about not writing the 3rd book, sure those people exist too, but it's more about the condescending treatment of fans, the lies, the unfulfilled promises, the kickstarter you took m..."

Exactly, Lovecraft was always a racist. You can't and shouldn't divorce the author from the works. Even if I read a book first, I usually then look up the author.

Imagine my surprise when I learned Brandon Sanderson was early in his life very anti-lgbtq, but the man legitimately reflected on his opinion when he was exposed to the LGBTQ community.

Admitting what you did is the first step.

“A journey will have pain and failure. It is not only the steps forward that we must accept. It is the stumbles. The trials. The knowledge that we will fail. That we will hurt those around us.
But if we stop, if we accept the person we are when we fail, the journey ends. That failure becomes our destination.”


message 20: by Saskia (new)

Saskia I met Sanderson and asked about this in 2018? His views are far more open than Orson Scott Card. He said to me that he didn't want to exclude an 3ntire community.


message 21: by John (new)

John Cucka The difference is Lynch's and Martin's quality went downhill after the third books in their series, and were joyless slogs by the fifth.

So let's thank Pat for not putting us through that disappointment.


message 22: by ThisGuy (last edited Nov 17, 2023 01:19PM) (new)

ThisGuy John wrote: "The difference is Lynch's and Martin's quality went downhill after the third books in their series, and were joyless slogs by the fifth.

So let's thank Pat for not putting us through that disappoi..."


People really should let Lynch and Martin off. Both of them have been very open, and they have not acted in the childish way that Pat has.

Martin is having a hard time with his long epic novel (I'm not even a fan of GoT, but I acknowledge that) And Scott Lynch suffers from severe depression. He is open about it, and he doesn't drag us along with promises, ask us to fund his side projects, or screw donor of his own charity.


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