**DISCLAIMER** In the book series "Alternate Places", the male lead shares his wives and has a very flexible sexuality. If you are not comfortable with his idea of relationships and the author's outlook on homosexuality, then do NOT read this.

**DISCLAIMER** In the book series "Good Intentions" the protagonist later in the series allows his lover to have escapades with other guys. We only get the full details on one of her affair with a guy, the rest of her hook ups happen in the background. Do NOT read this if you don't like guys who share their lovers.

"The Eye of the World" by Robert Jordan
shouldn't even be on this list..

Granted its been years sense i have read this book. But damn me if i can remember anything that even hinted at a three person or more relationship.

Wolfgarr wrote: ""The Eye of the World" by Robert Jordan
shouldn't even be on this list..

Granted its been years sense i have read this book. But damn me if i can remember anything that even hinted at a three p..."

Well, he later marries multiple women, though is much later in the series I though it would be valid.

Might as well add the "Purgatory Wars" to the same trashpile as "Alternate Places" and "Good Intentions" since, past Book 2, it degenerates into repeated instances of swinging, which are described in graphic detail.

Grunt_rumble wrote: "Might as well add the "Purgatory Wars" to the same trashpile as "Alternate Places" and "Good Intentions" since, past Book 2, it degenerates into repeated instances of swinging, which are described ..."

TRUE. I was ok with all the relationship garbage in alternate places for book 1 but after that it turn into a lets-have-sex-with-anyone-just-because-we-can,-hell-yea-to-adultery garbage. Then came the weird change in POV where we see everything from the girl's prospective.

"Alternate Places" Book 3 should NOT be on the list, it's FEMALE protagonist.

Alternate Places, Good Intentions and to a lesser degree Purgatory Wars later on basically turn into full blown cuckolding. The only reason these guys seem to have several girls is so they can be cuckolded by several girls are the same time. None of these books really qualify for a "harem theme" and a bunch of them break the limitations of the list. Why are they even here?

It seems to be a recent trend of certain authors to react to criticism of harems being childish/sexist/wishfulfillment by having the women take additional lovers/sleep around aswell. Personally it makes me retch. In other cases it's just a fetish finding it's way into their works.

One of the few things female authors and their harems get better. They're way more unapologetic and consequent.

Edit. Oh ALICE also falls into this category. The MC is literally happy about being cuckolded and such. He even encouraged it. Who adds to this list and why are these things even here given the disclaimer?

Maraud3r wrote: "It seems to be a recent trend of certain authors to react to criticism of harems being childish/sexist/wishfulfillment by having the women take additional lovers/sleep around aswell. Personally it makes me retch. In other cases it's just a fetish finding it's way into their works."

I personally wouldn't mind if they had the good grace not to market their cuckolding fetish as harem, since the two demographics are as anathema to each other as it is possible to get. It's downright insulting they can't even be bothered to put a simple warning in the description and then react like petulant children (I'm looking at you Dragon Cobolt) when people get upset because they were made to waste their valuable leisure time on something they didn't like, and were misled into doing so.

It doesn't help there's plenty of people around here that seem incapable of telling the difference between harem stories and polyamory stories and just pollute the lists with titles that clearly don't fit the description.

Maraud3r wrote: "One of the few things female authors and their harems get better. They're way more unapologetic and consequent."

That's because they don't have to deal with a horde of white knighting keyboard warriors defending the "virtue" of fictional women. Those cowards would never dare talk back to a woman, hence why female authors can churn out as many reverse harem stories as they want without having the peanut gallery throw a virtue signaling tantrum in a pathetic bid for attention.

Yep a harem theme is pretty well defined. Weird polyarmory stories, swinging and cuckolding very much don't fall under it. They can and should be allowed to write these books, it's just really aggravating when they try to "sneak" it in by suckering in audience that would not buy their books if they had been honest up front.

Especially since they often do it not just to boost sales but basically to try and convince people "it's good and right". It seems to be very much an ideological thing with quite a few of these people.

What annoys me in this case is that the list SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDES these books. The same as it excludes most of what for example J.A Cipriano would write because the relationships aren't serious enough to qualify. Yet these people add them anyway. I tried to get one of the librarians to pay attention, as creating a new list would just end up with it merged here but there seems to be no real interest so far.


As for peanut gallery. That's actually something I've seen and that confused me greatly. People talking about "equality" and "women" having just as mich right to act in a ertain manner. Which isn't something I disagree with but these aren't women, they're characters in a book. Fictional characters. Women have an insane number of reverse harems, far dwarfing harems too. So no need for "equality" there either.

Can someone stop that Thoregon guy. He's now adding stuff like Stuart Grosses lewd dungeon series. These books completely go against the description, have no romantic/relationship whatsoever and see the MC breeding the women with everything from monsters to other stuff.

Half the unfitting books were seemingly added by that one guy.

Edit:

Just a short Heads Up. Kiss like a Fist has been added to the list despite it being absolutely unfitting. It's NOT a harem unlike advertised, all but one relationships are casual flings never mentioned again, the one girl who is a romantic interest is not exclusive with the MC and "cheats" on him several times. The MC is initially angry then gets into it. Yeah, fuck that.

Just a short heads up. Kiss Like a Fist technically does not belong here. It has a scene where the main love interest and a the rest of the "harem" all sleeps with the MCs best friend who's a blatant author avatar. While the MC is outside and angry/crying.

Shu wrote: "**DISCLAIMER** In the book series "Good Intentions" the protagonist later in the series allows his lover to have escapades with other guys. We only get the full details on one of her affair with a ..."

You voted for these two books, WHY? Both series completely go against the rules of this list. Yet you and others put them up here anyway. Giving a "warning" later doesn't resolve that issue.

Hexa wrote: "Maybe it'd be better to list the ones that do belong in the comments at this point. lol
Shawn Moore and Otherlife involve an MC with a harem that fulfills the requirement "No Infidelity on the fema..."

Anything by William D. Arrand and Randi Darren (same author) is safe. Cebelius works seem safe (the girls engage with one another but mostly with the MC around/after getting his consens), same deal for M. Tefler, Jamie Hawk and D.R Rosier. Michael Scott Earle is safe albeit currently not writing anymore.

Can anyone give me the list of stuff that isn't serious enough to qualify. I see J.A. Cipriano and Stuart Grosse mentioned, anyone else? I'm in the mood for some male-orientated mindless sex harems. (still no open relationships, ntr, swinging etc). So slave harems, mind control, rape kind of "harems" or really just a guy sleeping/dominating many girls. Preferably fantasy.

Anything by Dragon Cobolt does not fit the requirements for this list, I don't even know why he keeps tagging his books as harem when he writes open-relationship and cuckoldry is a staple of his stories.

Jake Richter's one and only shameful submission also doesn't qualify since all the girls have sex with his best friend right in front of the MC, ignoring his protestations.

I've heard C.W. Lamb's books are also about open-relationships but can't confirm since I never read them.

@Myria - I've been recently reading books by Crystal Candy (other pen name of Misty Vixen), specifically Warm Place and the new serial titled Refuge. They're harem books with a focus on survival and base building.

Grunt_rumble wrote: "harem books with a focus on survival and base building"

Hm, I was looking for mainly Fantasy or Sci-Fi Fantasy. Looking to focus on the wish fulfillment/domination aspect, less on particularly anything else. Thanks for responding though.

Also, how come the books everyone is pointing out doesn't fit have not been removed from the list yet?

Myria wrote: "Grunt_rumble wrote: "harem books with a focus on survival and base building"

Hm, I was looking for mainly Fantasy or Sci-Fi Fantasy. Looking to focus on the wish fulfillment/domination aspect, les..."

You could look at "The Wooden Sword" or "The Start of Time". It's awfully self-promoting of me, but you might try those.

Myria wrote: "Can anyone give me the list of stuff that isn't serious enough to qualify. I see J.A. Cipriano and Stuart Grosse mentioned, anyone else? I'm in the mood for some male-orientated mindless sex harems..."
Power Mage is decent. It's urban fantasy tho. Anything by Randi Darren/Arrand is a safe bet (same author, Randi stuff is more graphic). The Fostering Faust series if you haven't read it yet maybe.

And it's not being removed because the folks who could remove it don't give a damn. Tried to point it out on the forums and they simply ignored it. While folks who should know better keep adding stuff that's simply open relationship/unrelated fetish/outright ntr here.