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Neil Sanders does a pretty good job at listing all the anomalies in the official story, as well as all the CIA involvement in the cult before the deaths, in this video here: https://www.goodreads.com/videos/9605...

Also check out the Jonestown section of the group here: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/group...

I would say...Mass Murder - MK Ultra Mind Control
http://tinyurl.com/qzd5fj5

CIA, of course
http://tinyurl.com/23pbfed

“Nothing is real” - Strawberry Fields

Mass murder, because children don't "choose" suicide. Men with guns stood around until everyone had drunk the poisoned cool aide. Then they either drank it, or ran away. But those few men, who held the rifles were both murderers and the only few who actually committed suicide.

MKUltra, bien sûr. The fascination of the MKUltra programme with cults goes beyond this. One of the first people in the states experimenting with personality fragmentation and reconstruction was L Ron Hubbard of Scientology fame (pain/drug/hypnosis experiments on non-acquiescing psychiatric inmates), and I have it on good authority (from a former high-level Scientologist), that raw data from Scientology auditing sessions is sent to the CIA for analysis. Of course this all devolves ultimately to The Tavistock Institute for Human Relations in the UK, and the money that resides within the protected square mile of the City of London is the true power that seeks to control this world. And we all know who they are.

How do we know that they were shot except for verbal statements?

Lisa wrote: "How do we know that they were shot except for verbal statements?"

Good question, but how about, what happened to the dudes with the guns? I don't think I've ever heard what happened to them...

But at the same time, I do believe the survivor accounts of people who were shot who didn't drink the shit or tried to run.

No way this is a conspiracy. Jones and his followers killed a US Congressman, panicked and drank Kool-Aid. End of story.

I feel skeptical about this one...definitely not ready to vote.

David wrote: "No way this is a conspiracy. Jones and his followers killed a US Congressman, panicked and drank Kool-Aid. End of story."
True, definitely NOT a conspiracy, also not suicide for most of the dead. Almost everyone there was murdered by Jones true-believers

that is a good point Kevin.

I've never heard of this story before so I looked it up ...it's madness! So much death and many things that don't make sense. It's either religious fanatics/cult or a corrupt government to blame and we know which explanation we'd rather go with. I vote unsure on this.

Kevin wrote: "True, definitely NOT a conspiracy, also not suicide for most of the dead. Almost everyone there was murdered by Jones true-believers ..."

If definitely not a conspiracy as you say, and if most of the 1000 dead were killed by a mass murder scenario as you believe, then why not report that truth in the media? Why not just report them as murders instead of repeatedly saying they nearly all willingly drank the Kool-Aid as per the official story?

And I have many other questions about the whole saga...

The Guyanese army, whose soldiers were among the first on the scene, reported only 408 Temple members had died by their own hand. Then the New York Times reported the actual number was around 500. US Military personnel arrived several days later and the body count quickly rose – from 700 to a final tally of 909. No official explanation was ever given for these differing body counts although one US official was quoted as saying, “Guyanese cannot count.”

There were also conflicting reports on the causes of death. The New York Times had reported the first medical official to arrive on the scene said he’d witnessed numerous gunshot wounds on victims. That didn’t tally with the official story that the majority had committed suicide by drinking cyanide. And no-one seemed to know exactly how many people were in Jonestown at the time. Therefore, reports listing 33 survivors couldn’t be verified.

Local newspaper the Guyanese Daily Mirror reported in Nov 1978 that around 60 to 80 American Green Berets and several hundred members of the UK’s SAS Black Watch were performing military exercise drills in the jungles surrounding Jonestown at the exact same time the mass suicides or the massacre – depending on your take – occurred. (note that that many Green Berets and elite SAS soldiers is more than enough to carry out such a massacre, and then some.)

Was the presence of these elite US/UK soldiers a random coincidence or does it as some suggest point to a sinister outside party, or parties, being responsible for the deaths?

Another anomaly in the official version as told by the US Government was that the bodies lay neatly arranged in rows and showed no signs of the heavily twisted rigidity known to be induced in cyanide suicides.

In the coroner’s court, Guyanese pathologist Dr. Leslie Mootoo stated the bodies looked like they’d been murdered and, in his opinion, were not suicides at all. Dr. Mootoo also said that while he did find gunshot wounds on a small percentage of the victims, he found needle marks on the vast majority.

Needle usage would directly contradict the cyanide story as the official story says the cyanide was taken orally.

The US Army, however, said the cause of death was irrefutably cyanide suicides. Interestingly, it was only after mounting pressure from family members of the deceased back in America that the Army finally agreed to perform some autopsies – seven out of 900 deaths to be precise. Those token autopsies were clearly too few to gain true insight into what caused the deaths.

Beyond all these anomalies, when you dig deeper in your research you'll find there are CIA fingerprints all over the crime scene and that the psychoactive drugs found in Jonestown match those used in the MK-Ultra mind control program.

Many investigators have theorized that Larry Layton, a senior member of Jonestown, was also an undercover CIA agent. In what could be a telling connection, Layton’s father was in charge of the US Army’s Biological Weapons Research unit. Mere coincidence? Or was Jonestown a “research experiment” conducted by the military?

Another strange thing about Jonestown was Jim Jones’ corpse. The Peoples Temple leader was known to have tattoos all over his chest. Yet the photos of his corpse found after his supposed suicide shows a chest free of tattoos.

America’s House Foreign Affairs Committee (HFAC) concluded the massacre was entirely due to Jones’ “extreme paranoia” and there was no outside interference from the CIA or otherwise. Strangely though, 5000 HFAC documents on Jonestown remain classified to this day. WHY??????

So does all this mean some researchers are simply connecting too many dots and mistaking a series of random coincidences within a suicide cult for some grand conspiracy? Or, "is there something THEY don't want us to know?"

I'm unsure myself as it's a big mess of an event with sooooo much misreporting going on within mainstream media and alternative/conspiracy media. Certainly cult groups like Heaven's Gate and co have the ability to kill themselves en masse, or kill all their own members...And Jim Jones was certainly by all accounts a megalomaniac/.. But we have to balance that against the fact that we now know false flag operations are occurring all over the world by the likes of the CIA and MI6 and we also know the CIA successfully infiltrated mainstream media buying 400+ leading US journalists in the 1970s (research the now declassified Operation Mockingbird) so it's very difficult to know who to trust.

James Morcan wrote: "Another strange thing about Jonestown was Jim Jones’ corpse. The Peoples Temple leader was known to have tattoos all over his chest. Yet the photos of his corpse found after his supposed suicide shows a chest free of tattoos."

I recall watching something on TV many years ago on this, with a survivors account. There was something mentioned that had me wondering, well, whatever happened to him?

They said to the effect that Jim had a twin brother.

You can listen to Jim Jones' death tape (FBI recordings) here: http://mp3pm.me/song/14583473/Jim_Jon...

Creepy shit, this!
Reminds me of Brando's eerie character Colonel Kurtz in Apocalypse Now.

James Morcan wrote: "Kevin wrote: "True, definitely NOT a conspiracy, also not suicide for most of the dead. Almost everyone there was murdered by Jones true-believers ..."

If definitely not a conspiracy as you say, a..."

The amount of autopsies performed is suspicious. ..how many of them were gunshots vs. Cyanide? Who chose which bodies to do autopsies on?

Lisa wrote: "Who chose which bodies to do autopsies on?..."

The US military/govt chose :)

James Morcan wrote: "Lisa wrote: "Who chose which bodies to do autopsies on?..."

The US military/govt chose :)"

That is telling... Had a friend ask this very question. I figured it was based on who had demanded an autopsy.

When the procedure seems completely illogical it's hard not to question the motives.