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Do you believe the Universe was created "out of nothing" as per the Big Bang Theory?

NO
 
  167 votes 35.2%

YES
 
  158 votes 33.3%

UNSURE
 
  149 votes 31.4%

474 total votes

Poll added by: James



Comments Showing 1-50 of 103 (103 new)


message 1: by Amy (new)

Amy Though research is still ongoing, that it what current evidence shows to be most likely. If more evidence is found in the course of research to change that likelihood, then I will change my mind to suit the evidence as it is uncovered.


message 2: by Amr (new)

Amr Elsawy I believe that God "Allah" created the universe.


message 3: by GR (new)

GR Oliver Amr, my question: And what is God?


message 4: by Amr (last edited Mar 31, 2018 09:05AM) (new)

Amr Elsawy God is the first and the last, God is the creator of everything, God takes away life and gives it back... You can't figure out what God is the way you want because it's above human mind, God created human mind :), it has its own limits and can't exceed it, unless God wants so . If you want to find God truly, God will come to you even faster.


message 5: by Angie (new)

Angie What Amy said. Science is a thing.


message 6: by James (new)

James Morcan Angie wrote: "What Amy said. Science is a thing."

Science becoming more divided over the Big Bang Theory and origins of the Universe in general, however...


message 7: by Angie (new)

Angie That is likely because science - as concrete as it is, is also very fluid. Many people have a hard time sitting with unknowns. We are learning more each and every day. If one looks back over time and the discoveries in the area of astronomy for example. It took centuries of observation to put the pieces together. Each discovery needed the layers of discovery before it. Our society wants all the answers right now, that’s just not the way the world works. Patience my dear people; time always tells. TRUTH always comes to light. And in fact there are many truths. Sometimes even contradictory truths. That’s not a bad or wrong thing. It’s al about the process. We need all the pieces to find the real truth. Some people are very attached to the idea of only their truth. I adore the gray area in between myself.


message 8: by [deleted user] (new)

Except that the big bang didn't happen ex nilhio.


message 9: by David (new)

David Elkin I am sure it wasn't a divine creation


message 10: by Faisal (new)

Faisal God created humans, humans created science, science created knowledge, knowledge of universe therefore...by God.


message 11: by Angie (new)

Angie Hmmm Faisal. I think I have a different stance on things. I like the layers, not sure I subscribe to the order, I definitely have a faith in something — a very very powerful thing but I’m certain I don’t ascribe to it the powers that you’re seemingly talking about.


message 12: by B.M.B. (new)

B.M.B. Johnson A singularity is NOT nothing, sir


message 13: by Donna (new)

Donna Haworth We tend to think in terms of beginnings and endings, lots of religions subscribe to this idea. If there was a beginning, a creation of the Universe with all its cycles, mathematical perfection, beings with intelligence then I could only think in terms of it being created by a being whom the only name I could ascribe would be god in the vaguest sense, not in the terminology of one ruling over us on a personal moral level, but in the meaning of infinite power and intelligence. If energy cannot be created or destroyed than this God would be infinite. Is the universe Gods material manifestation? Does it appear and disappear in cycles like the breath from our mouths on a winters day? Does it simply keep transforming from one form to another like the surface of the ocean? Since matter can be created out of energy I would tend to think that God created matter, hence the universe but since very little ever happens at once, and then in cycles, I would be more inclined to think in terms of a growing and shrinking ever changing and evolving universe, more like the breath particles of God. What did it take to have matter initially created from energy I don't know, can energy exist without creating matter? Unfortunately everything is skewed by my incredibly limited understanding.


message 14: by Anthony (new)

Anthony I believe the Big Bang Theory originated with the Catholic priest and scientist Georges Lamaitre. Believing in The Big Bang Theory and God are not mutually exclusive. According to the Christian tradition God created the world ex nihilo i.e. from nothing. So one could say they believed that the universe was created from nothing by God and The Big Bang Theory is the scientific description of how it happened. Should there be an option in the poll to reflect this opinion or is voting that one does believe that the universe came about ex nihilo through means that The Big Bang Theory describes sufficient and also can include the belief in a an eternal First Cause an absolute actuality?


message 15: by Amy (new)

Amy James wrote: "Angie wrote: "What Amy said. Science is a thing."

Science becoming more divided over the Big Bang Theory and origins of the Universe in general, however..."


Research is still ongoing. Admitting when something is not de facto certain does not mean we know nothing, it means we are still learning and using new evidence to expand our collective base of knowledge.


message 16: by Cole (new)

Cole Anybody who voted definitively yes or no is fooling themselves


message 17: by Fahad (new)

Fahad Amr wrote: "God is the first and the last, God is the creator of everything, God takes away life and gives it back... You can't figure out what God is the way you want because it's above human mind, God create..."

So how did you learn human mind cannot understand god? How did that come to your understanding?


message 18: by John (new)

John Pasquale COUNTRIES ARE MAKING THESE ENORMOUS SUPER COLLIDERS...MILES LONG, BILLIONS OF $$$$$$$......WHY.....THEY DO NOT TELL US....WE ARE 40 YEARS BEHIND IN TECHNOLOGY..


message 19: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller So far, all the evidence is consistent with the big bang, BUT there is no evidence for anything earlier than about 300,000 yrs after the actual bang, when light decoupled from the "plasma" when atoms started to form. The homogeneity of what we see gives rise to an interpretation of what might have preceded that 300,000 yr mark, but that is about it. Prior to that it is largely guess-work. Since there is no evidence for the start, and absolutely none "pre-start", whatever that means, I vote "unsure".


message 20: by Joseph (new)

Joseph Shellim Once upon a time, there were no tools to build a universe and no builders. No light, darkness, energy, stars, earths, life or universe; that is why we have an age of the universe. The first 4 words of Genesis covers this question best:
"In the beginning God..."


message 21: by J (new)

J Rouse The only nothing possible, A singl-body system is nothing in term of physics. There is no differenciation between one point and another. It is a monism, which is something... but no polarity, no inequal distribution of mass... therefore in terms of relativity, it was nothing. Something caused a decay or bang or something. Since there is no way to ever prove or disprove what happened empirically, this will always be a metaphysical question. But, it’s fun to speculate.


message 22: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Marie Gabriel A singularity is not "nothing". It is the end result of entering a black hole which has infinite density and inescapable gravity. Some people think black holes can explode and if that happened - well, you might get a new universe.


message 23: by Nik (new)

Nik No way! Absolute absurdity. Just because it seems impossible to find an answer doesn't mean we make ridiculous, unreasonable one.


message 24: by Lorelei (new)

Lorelei Petraskiewicz Cole wrote: "Anybody who voted definitively yes or no is fooling themselves"

I agree.


message 25: by Pavan (new)

Pavan Not sure


message 26: by P.K. (new)

P.K. Davies A massive challenge to intellectual energy. The Godists have to acknowledge that all their beliefs come from human activity, therefore, are those beliefs any more credible than the opinions here? In my experience, reading history, they also exclude the social and political influences that engendered those beliefs. Did God say that Jews should not eat non-Kosher food or that Muslims should only slaughter animals so they bleed to death or was it some wise authorities at the time who decided there were health reasons for such laws? I was once asked who, in my opinion, was the greatest man (sic) who ever lived. I chose Christ because he was a political manipulator par excellence (that's another story for another time) and still manipulates us. The Muslims would choose Mohammed, although which one they cannot yet decide. My intelocutor chose Shakespeare. I think he had a point. From wherever it comes, imagination and language is the apex of human activity. Did it come from a big bang and a chemical mix of inexplicable complexity? We don't know and, even allowing for the advance of scientific observations, we probably never will.
When I did my national service at eighteen I studied the skies on a summers night with another recruit and we discussed such things. I then asked the question, "What was there before?" My friend couldn't tell me. The Astronomer Royal, when I asked him the same question, answered, "It's always been there." A pat answer that saves the brain warp that I almost experienced all those years ago when seeking my own answer. It hurt so much I decided then not to pursue it. I advise everyone to do the same.


message 27: by Kurami Rocket (new)

Kurami Rocket I personally believe God created everything. I follow Jehovah's Witnesses, btw. Of course that does not mean I deny any science, but I just choose to have faith in a divine creator is all. In terms of this type of God, he has always existed. He has no end nor beginning. It is something that is incomprehensible to the human mind.


message 28: by Kitty (new)

Kitty S If you think about it... there is and will always be someone more superior than us humans, and that is God. So basically, scientists can make as many theory’s as they like, but they can never beat the fact that their will always be someone with a higher status and superiority then every organism and thing in this universe. Therefore, proof that indeed it was God who created the universe.


message 29: by Iona (new)

Iona  Stewart I'm not sure it was created. Perhaps it always was.


message 30: by Shane (new)

Shane Phillips Big Bang theory does not say Universe was created from nothing but a dense singularity of matter.


message 31: by Thomas (last edited Apr 02, 2018 06:41AM) (new)

Thomas ‘No thing’. Following this logic allows the universe to come into being, derived from a higher order/dimension, “outside” of matter as we perceive it. Which is getting quite close to the Christian characteristics of God; pre-dates universe, is everywhere and nowhere and is not limited to time, i.e. eternal. In my view religion and science is approaching a coming ground of understanding. It’s simply a question of enabling oneself the possibility to see that existence might be orders of magnitude more complex than the materialistic view. And ‘God’ is that.


message 32: by Shane (new)

Shane Phillips John wrote: "COUNTRIES ARE MAKING THESE ENORMOUS SUPER COLLIDERS...MILES LONG, BILLIONS OF $$$$$$$......WHY.....THEY DO NOT TELL US....WE ARE 40 YEARS BEHIND IN TECHNOLOGY.."

What the hell are you talking about? The lhc is the most technologically advanced device ever created. It currently is
Being updated with even better detectors and the amount
Of data required new communications and storage be developed

Also there are thousands of scientific papers published on the
Results that are available to the public.


message 33: by Thorkell (new)

Thorkell Ottarsson This question is misleading. We don't know what was before the big bang or if it came out of nothing. We only know what happened after it started.


message 34: by Shane (new)

Shane Phillips Thorkell wrote: "This question is misleading. We don't know what was before the big bang or if it came out of nothing. We only know what happened after it started."

Amen!


message 35: by Shane (new)

Shane Phillips The Big Bang Theory has NOTHING to do with any god(s). It is simply the current best explanation for the data we have about the early universe.

Anyone who mentions any god is simply imposing their beliefs on it.


message 36: by Shane (new)

Shane Phillips “In 1951, Pope Pius XII declared that Lemaître's theory provided a scientific validation for Catholicism. However, Lemaître resented the Pope's proclamation, stating that the theory was neutral and there was neither a connection nor a contradiction between his religion and his theory.”


message 37: by WILLIAM (new)

WILLIAM George Bryant PHD The universe always was and will always will be is what I believe.


message 38: by Sheri (new)

Sheri Amr wrote: "God is the first and the last, God is the creator of everything, God takes away life and gives it back... You can't figure out what God is the way you want because it's above human mind, God create..."

Well said. I agree with you Amr.


message 39: by Houssem (last edited Apr 02, 2018 09:41AM) (new)

Houssem Mallem There has to be something caused the universe to emerge and if we try to explain it scientifically perhaps we keep looking what caused the cause that causes the big bang and such which is like a circular reasoning that might get us nowhere, hence I think one needs to believe in Higher Power, something that created this universe, I call it God, you can call it something else if you want, the point is he who made it doesn't necessarily that he leave us a clue that describes exactly how it has been made.


message 40: by Shane (new)

Shane Phillips Patrick wrote: "Shane wrote: "“In 1951, Pope Pius XII declared that Lemaître's theory provided a scientific validation for Catholicism. However, Lemaître resented the Pope's proclamation, stating that the theory w..."

I am not saying anything for him. His own words state that the
Theory does not confirm or deny any belief.



message 41: by WILLIAM (new)

WILLIAM George Bryant PHD Sheri wrote: "Amr wrote: "God is the first and the last, God is the creator of everything, God takes away life and gives it back... You can't figure out what God is the way you want because it's above human mind..."

Sheri, I second that opinion.


message 42: by P.K. (new)

P.K. Davies So what created God(ot)?


message 43: by Swapan (new)

Swapan Sutradhar We should love the "TRUTH" rather than myth or mythology. I believe science will uncover the truth once ASAP. Einstein was confused, as there is no proof of God - not yet scientifically established. The name "God" is created by human, especially man, not women. There was no woman came for spreading belief in God in the earth. But I believe there is an associated natural central power located somewhere in the universe working behind the expanding the universe yet- and growing the creatures by dint of its blessing. This power is being said or imagined as the God. In the past, different super person spread out the belief differently- and made the human civilization divided. Our whole universe is literally located in our brain. The traditional beliefs are the result of permanent neuro-cell whos are built in the brain by the grace of neuro-plasticity. We all human are connected with the supernatural energy. We should look for our higher values for help each other for best well-being. If as soon as possible science comes on the final decision on God, the earth will be saved for human heaven. Looking forward to the scientific truth rather than searching a black cat in a dark house.


message 44: by Yoani (new)

Yoani Del Moral Dios creo las condiciones expandiendose en lo que hoy conocemos como el universo, podemos decir con seguridad que Dios creo el universo en el momento del big bang!!


message 45: by Shane (new)

Shane Phillips Ian wrote: "So far, all the evidence is consistent with the big bang, BUT there is no evidence for anything earlier than about 300,000 yrs after the actual bang, when light decoupled from the "plasma" when ato..."

Actually we know to plank time then calculations break down


message 46: by J (new)

J Rouse Shane wrote: "Ian wrote: "So far, all the evidence is consistent with the big bang, BUT there is no evidence for anything earlier than about 300,000 yrs after the actual bang, when light decoupled from the "plas..."

Yoani wrote: "Dios creo las condiciones expandiendose en lo que hoy conocemos como el universo, podemos decir con seguridad que Dios creo el universo en el momento del big bang!!"

Actually, all of the evidence does not point to the current Big Bang narrative. It is just the best thing going. The fact that some have attempted to take the big bang down to plank time is part of the Big Bangs problem. The fact that nucleosynthesis is well understood and the Big Bang is a model with strong conceptual reasoning doesn’t mean we can just lay them upon one another and call it irrefutable. The Big Bang is a solid theory that has assumed a narrative that has become quite dogmatic. For instance, I support a brane decay hypothesis much more than I do a super dense singularity expanding. That whole plank time hypothesis has a lot of holes. Here is one recently pointed out.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/sciexami...


message 47: by Sydney (new)

Sydney Kerelo I do think that we started from somewhere but I dont think that it happened as the Big Bang theory suggested, there is evidence of evolution and the changing of the earth to make something grand. I do think that we had to start from somewhere but it could've been this tiny particle that combined with numerous other elements created our universe.


message 48: by Sarah (new)

Sarah Baker I think that God created the universe and that the Big Bang theory happened. I think that when God said 'let there be this and that' When those things came into existence was the Big Bang. The Big Bang explains how something magically appeared out of nothing and when God said 'let there be whatever' he was creating whatever out of nothing. That's how i see it because it's obvious that evolution exists. Not that I believe humans evolved but it's possible.


message 49: by P.K. (new)

P.K. Davies Ants are intelligent creatures; think on that; intelligence so compact.
They are as organised as Chinese infantry. Their world is mostly, at any given time, ten square metres. It consists of everything they think they know. Then something unrecogniseable; a human boot? comes out of nowhere and crushes many of them to non-existence. The other ants know such a disaster is beyond their understanding, so they might call it God. Ants were created too by the same entity that created us. We are just bigger ants in a bigger ten square metres.


message 50: by Swapan (new)

Swapan Sutradhar P.K. wrote: "Ants are intelligent creatures; think on that; intelligence so compact.
They are as organised as Chinese infantry. Their world is mostly, at any given time, ten square metres. It consists of everyt..."


You're very right! You perceived the inner power of Chinese unity! I'm too thinking this point as for example. They will teach the world a new lesson within mid of this century without paying single bit time to think of God! Their unity, their stick, and their carrot are working together to show the people of God that where is located heaven! It's not God's wrong though!


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