Poll

Two of these books are the second in a series, but we've done the first in the past -- hence their presence here.

I'm just gonna say that Grunts is kinda boring

I am going to add it to every Random Fantasy list until it is picked, damn it!

I'm going for Watership Down. I have it sitting waiting to be read which is what matters to me at the moment.

i read WD for class waaaaay back in junior high or so, and the invented language of rabbit vocabulary in there has occupied real estate in my head ever since.

silflay hraka embleer hrair!

Shall I be evil and tip the scales in favor of Watership Down?
I've not had time for much S&F lately, but you guys have started shelving books I've had on my to-read list for ages... :P

Be evil. It doesn't always work around here, though.

It always helps if you're in good company. ;)

this list really IS random...lol

Watership Down is winning? Really? I thought everyone read that when they were 10 because of the rabbits...

♥Xeni♥ wrote: "Watership Down is winning? Really? I thought everyone read that when they were 10 because of the rabbits..."

Fuckin' rabbits....ugh..

Oh, I am surprised it's winning though. I thought this group loathed anything that might be YA.

No, that's just my very vocal anti-YA comments you remember.

LOL...I thought it was a general consensus at one time.

Probably was... mainly because we had a slew of terribly written YA books for a time. Not all YA books are terrible. It's just that the gist of them are badly written and very repetitive.

I find Watership Down to be one of the exception books. At least it was back when I read it ages ago.

I never thought Watership Down as YA.

I hadn't either, until I thought about it a bit, Kevin. I can understand why some publisher's would label it YA.

No, never crossed my mind that WD was YA either. Great book, bloody sad though. Not sure I'm all too keen about any of them (am I allowed to say that--instantly kicked out of group--blacklisted--sackcloth and bell?)

I guess I always thought of Watership Down as YA because it was a reading assignment that I had in high school.

And it has rabbits.

Chris wrote: "I guess I always thought of Watership Down as YA because it was a reading assignment that I had in high school.

And it has rabbits."

But rabbits in terrible trouble. Couldn't we secretly swap Shardik in WD's place? ;)That was a great book.

Now I have the Wonderpets theme stuck in my head.

Chris wrote: "Now I have the Wonderpets theme stuck in my head."

Just looked at it. :) I'll never look at WD in the same way again. My kids were given a WD animation once. Absolutely brutal, so much blood, more like 300 than WD. I hid it for a few years.

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Ala wrote: "<.<"

Is that a stern look, or am I just being paranoid about the whole switching over of the WD thing?

As a group, let's see if we can 'uncover' the frightening conspiracy that lurks within WD. Let's make the establishment tremble as we reveal what a subversive book it actually is!

I am considering voting for Watership Down. I wouldn't mind reading it again, and I've read Prince of Thorns . . . Didn't enjoy it. A protagonist with absolutely no redeeming qualities gets old quickly.

On the other hand, Swordspoint is one of my favoritist books, and Emma Bull is a favorite authorBone Dance, along with Naomi Novik's dragon series being a favorite.

I haven't read WD since I was a teen, but I also don't think it's a YA novel...

How did Watership Down make it to the poll? It doesn't belong here. I'veseen the movie and I loved it. But it just doesn't fit here.

It's a list of random books. How is talking rabbits not fantasy?

Georgina wrote: "Ala wrote: "

Is that a stern look, or am I just being paranoid about the whole switching over of the WD thing?"

>.>

Julia, i'm right there with you - i <3 Emma Bull, and i keep meaning to get around to Novik's dragon stuff (i even have the first 3 laying around here ready to go!!!), so i'm all over either one of those.

also, agreed very much that just because rabbits are hopping around doesn't make WD a YA novel...these bunnies are NOT fluffy or pastel. haven't read it since that long-ago assignment in grade school, though, and it's one of the things i'd like very much to revisit as an adult to see if it's as good as i remember.

WD was made up by Adams to entertain his children on a long car journey, he then decided to write it down.

Ken wrote: "As a group, let's see if we can 'uncover' the frightening conspiracy that lurks within WD. Let's make the establishment tremble as we reveal what a subversive book it actually is!"

I am disappointed that no one is taking up the conspiracy call. These are scary bunnies.

It's been too long since I last read it. XD but feel free to raise the topic with those that have! I'll just giggle madly in the background.

Ken wrote: "Ken wrote: "As a group, let's see if we can 'uncover' the frightening conspiracy that lurks within WD. Let's make the establishment tremble as we reveal what a subversive book it actually is!"

I a..."

I'm willing to entertain any and all conspiracy theories! After all we're talking physic bunnies here (well Fiver, one's enough!). What deviousness might they get up to unchecked? They breed like rabbits...

Yay for bunnies!

(Ripping each other to shreds...)

I'd never heard of WD until last year. It wasn't part of my school curriculum nor was I introduced to it as a child. So many people have said it was an important and pivotal book when they were younger that I want to see what all the fuss is about.

Who the heck is in charge here? Whoever that is has botched his/her job and allowed Watership Down to be voted on as fantasy. WD is not fantasy. So while it's a very good story, it doesn't belong in this list. So please REMOVE it.

Over 1000 users have it shelved as fantasy. Thus it is part of that genre.

I wish I could "like" what you just said, Kim.

Genre lines are gray--not black and white. Who gets to draw those lines and define what's fantasy? Readers do! If many people shelve it as fantasy, I'm game with calling it fantasy. And I voted for it. ;)

I agree with you alicia. Upvotes to Kim and you!

Seriously.

Talking rabbits are real!

JSWolf wrote: "Who the heck is in charge here? Whoever that is has botched his/her job and allowed Watership Down to be voted on as fantasy. WD is not fantasy. So while it's a very good story, it doesn't belong i..."

Right, Chris. Talking rabbits, their folklore and their quests... That'd be non-fiction.

They talk to me....

I am in charge here, JS. And fantasy it will remain.

Lol @ Chris!
:D

For some strange reason, WD went completely under my radar as a child. ..and later on I never had a chance to read it, so it will be nice to have an excuse to find out what the fuss is about. :)

I'm happy with WD listed as fantasy. It usually is on bookshelves. Also fine with talking rabbits. My ducks talk to me. All forty (or fifty) of them have just been shouting 'Feed Me! Feed Me! Feed Me!' It's uncanny how I can understand their language. :)

I don't think there's any reason to go angrily demanding change to the list. This is a fun group isn't it? It's about reading and sharing our love of SCI-Fi/Fantasy.

TBH, I don't quite see where you're going to fit talking rabbits into a genre outside of Fantasy. If talking, anthropomorphic bunnies with their own language, mythology and poetry is not fantasy, I'd like to smoke that same stuff that makes it reality.

...unless they are genetically engineered bunnies, or mechanical bunnies or cyberbunnies... -then it would go into SF/Steampunk/Cyberpunk, of course. <_<

Of course.