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message 1: by Danielle The Book Huntress , Sees Love in All Colors (new)

 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 7331 comments Mod
Please, please, please feel free to add books to the shelf that you enjoy. We want to get the word out about as many interracial romances of all kinds that we can. Doesn't just have to be BWWM or WWBM. Can be any.


message 2: by Justine (new)

Justine | 1361 comments What shelf are you talking about? Is there a general community shelf or something?


message 3: by Justine (last edited Mar 31, 2009 06:28PM) (new)

Justine | 1361 comments Oh I see what you mean now. I just realised it. I have about 200 IR books on my personal shelves. It wouldb be great if I could just export them all over hmmmmmmm

You know what's lacking on good reads - A duplication check!


message 4: by Justine (new)

Justine | 1361 comments OK I've added a couple of books to the shelf. When I get some time I'll add some more


message 5: by new_user (last edited Mar 31, 2009 10:47PM) (new)

new_user That's a lot of books, Justine! LOL. That's awesome; thanks for adding to the group's shelves. The nice thing about adding books is that our group appears on that book's page, so that more IR fans can find us!

It would be nice if there was an export option, but there is a duplication check! :) Go to "my books," choose the "edit" view, and click "find duplicates." Not an option for the group books, unfortunately. Or searching the shelves. :/


message 6: by Arch , Mod (new)

Arch  | 6707 comments Mod
Justine, you do have a lot of IR books. Are they all BWWM books?


message 7: by Justine (last edited Apr 01, 2009 08:05AM) (new)

Justine | 1361 comments Arch, yep. I do like to read. Most of them are BW/WM.I think in 3 or 4 the Male is Native American. One is Pakistani and 1 is Asian.

But some of them have lots of descriptive sex in them.

I've tried to indicate in my review area the race of characters and if there's lots of sex or not. If I didn't and you want to know, please don't hesitate to ask


message 8: by Justine (new)

Justine | 1361 comments new_user wrote: "That's a lot of books, Justine! LOL. That's awesome; thanks for adding to the group's shelves. The nice thing about adding books is that our group appears on that book's page, so that more IR fans ..."

Thanks new_user

Do you notice that if the same book has a different cover that it can be added twice, heck thrice? :-)


message 9: by new_user (new)

new_user Yeah, I've had to delete some. *grumbles* LOL. I started noticing when our group icon would appear multiple times on a page, LOL. I usually delete the older cover.


message 10: by Justine (new)

Justine | 1361 comments new_user wrote: "Yeah, I've had to delete some. *grumbles* LOL. I started noticing when our group icon would appear multiple times on a page, LOL. I usually delete the older cover."

Yeah, i hear that LOL




message 11: by Justine (new)

Justine | 1361 comments And I've just noticed that two completely different stories may have the same cover. Now if that isn't laziness I don't know what is


message 12: by Justine (new)

Justine | 1361 comments Have just added a couple more books to the shelf. wow, I'm tired now!!!!!!!


message 13: by Arch , Mod (new)

Arch  | 6707 comments Mod
Adding books to my own Goodread shelves can be tiresome, especially, when I am adding 100 books, like I have done two Saturdays ago.


message 14: by new_user (last edited Apr 01, 2009 02:07PM) (new)

new_user LOL, I've seen that too, Justine. I didn't realize Taste of Temptation was an IR. Wow, you have been busy! LOL. Good job!


message 15: by Justine (last edited Apr 01, 2009 04:48PM) (new)

Justine | 1361 comments new_user wrote: "LOL, I've seen that too, Justine. I didn't realize Taste of Temptation was an IR. Wow, you have been busy! LOL. Good job! "

There were 4 that I couldn't get added. They were published by the IRC. But I'm all added out - at least for the day :-)







message 16: by Justine (new)

Justine | 1361 comments Arch wrote: "Adding books to my own Goodread shelves can be tiresome, especially, when I am adding 100 books, like I have done two Saturdays ago."

I've added a book Boaz Brown. You may want to check it out. I think you will like it


message 17: by Justine (new)

Justine | 1361 comments new_user wrote: "LOL, I've seen that too, Justine. I didn't realize Taste of Temptation was an IR. Wow, you have been busy! LOL. Good job! "


Oh you want to steer clear of that one! Sorry to say it was an unmitigated disaster of a book!



message 18: by LaVerne (last edited Apr 02, 2009 05:40AM) (new)

LaVerne (lavernethompson) | 77 comments Justine wrote: "And I've just noticed that two completely different stories may have the same cover. Now if that isn't laziness I don't know what is
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Not really, Justine. Since my book PROMISES was released, I've seen the same photo used on 3 other books in some form. I investigated. What's happening is believe it or not there really is limited photo stock out there. All the cover artists are pulling from the same places so you have overlap. Unless publishers/authors are willing to pay a lot of money to hire their own models and do their own photoshoots it will continue to happen. Even the NY houses are pulling from the same stocks.

Unless you're one of the NY Times bestsellering authors odds are good the cover used is coming from stock photos that everyone else is pulling from.

LaVerne




message 19: by Arch , Mod (new)

Arch  | 6707 comments Mod
Justine wrote: I've added a book Boaz Brown. You may want to c..."


Thanks Justine.



message 20: by Justine (new)

Justine | 1361 comments LaVerne wrote: "Justine wrote: "And I've just noticed that two completely different stories may have the same cover. Now if that isn't laziness I don't know what is
."


Not really, Justine. Since my book PRO..."


Ah thanks for explaining that LaVerne, but with the development in computer graphics can't they just create other images




message 21: by LaVerne (new)

LaVerne (lavernethompson) | 77 comments Yes and a lot of them use computer graphics to create images but then get complaints about how cartoonish the bookcovers look. Personally I don't really like the computer generated graphics for my covers. But then when you use real photos, there still seems to be only so much that can be done. The base photo of the model remains the same.







message 22: by LaVerne (new)

LaVerne (lavernethompson) | 77 comments I'm at the point where the next time I go to the beach I want to walk around with a camera, cash and a release form in my beachbag so the photos used on my covers would be original. LOL

LaVerne


message 23: by new_user (last edited Apr 02, 2009 02:52PM) (new)

new_user LOL! LaVerne, I can see how that would be frustrating. I don't like computer generated graphics either. The poorly rendered kind anyway.


message 24: by Justine (new)

Justine | 1361 comments LaVerne wrote: "Yes and a lot of them use computer graphics to create images but then get complaints about how cartoonish the bookcovers look. Personally I don't really like the computer generated graphics for my ..."

really? I wouldn't have thought so. I mean I look at scifi books with space ships on them and they don't look cartoonish to me.

Does a romance book have to have the pic of the characters on them? Can't they just have a rose or a garter belt or a thong or a pair of lips or some such?


message 25: by Justine (new)

Justine | 1361 comments OH BTW new_user:

There are several duplicates on the bookshelves now. I was trying to send you a private message about this, but I simply couldn't get the message sent. So after 5 tries, I gave up

I would have deleted the duplicates, but I thought that this was something a mod should do and I didn't want to step on any toes :-)


message 26: by new_user (new)

new_user Aw, man... LOL. Do you know which ones, specifically, Justine? Because I thought I caught most of them. *grumbles @ GR*


message 27: by CaliGirlRae, Mod Squad (new)

CaliGirlRae (rae_l) | 2017 comments Mod
Justine wrote: "And I've just noticed that two completely different stories may have the same cover. Now if that isn't laziness I don't know what is"

Yeah a lot of cover artists use the same stock photo sites. I've seen a few I can identify right away. Harlequin sometimes doubles up on the same pic too. It's kinda weird heh.


message 28: by LaVerne (new)

LaVerne (lavernethompson) | 77 comments Justine wrote: " ..."
Justine wrote-"really? I wouldn't have thought so. I mean I look at scifi books with space ships on them and they don't look cartoonish to me.

Does a romance book have to have the pic of the characters on them? Can't they just have a rose or a garter belt or a thong or a pair of lips or some such?"

That's true, but graphics seem to work better for sci/fi books not romance books. And no romance books don't necessarily have to have a pic of a character or characters on them, some don't. It's just a matter of preference of the author or publisher. But the majority and I think traditionally, romance books tend to have pictures of the characters on them. Much more so than any other genre.

Personally as a reader I don't care what's on the cover, if I know the authors work or the blurb on the back cover seems interesting. That being said, if I'm just browsing the shelves for a romance book it's the ones with interesting covers, usually they include people, that tend to catch my attention enough to pull it from the shelf.




message 29: by Justine (new)

Justine | 1361 comments new_user wrote: "Aw, man... LOL. Do you know which ones, specifically, Justine? Because I thought I caught most of them. *grumbles @ GR*"

They were just done early today. If you sort the books by Author order they are easy to find that way. I'll see if I can identify them. I noticed about 5 or so this morning




message 30: by Justine (new)

Justine | 1361 comments new_user wrote: "Aw, man... LOL. Do you know which ones, specifically, Justine? Because I thought I caught most of them. *grumbles @ GR*"

Ok here are 3 of them:

something deeper - shara azod
Love out loud - marilyn lee
nights of desire - marilyn lee


message 31: by Justine (new)

Justine | 1361 comments LaVerne wrote: "Justine wrote: " ..."
Justine wrote-"really? I wouldn't have thought so. I mean I look at scifi books with space ships on them and they don't look cartoonish to me.

Does a romance book have to..."


Well you do have a point there. It does help me to bypass lots of books I would have otherwise had stopped to investigate. And it's way easy to spot an IR if the characters are smack dab on the front!





message 32: by Arch , Mod (new)

Arch  | 6707 comments Mod
Me personally, I don't care for the pictures of characters to be on the cover of a book. I like to imagine how the characters look to me.

Some characters on the book don't match the characters in the book. I don't want to see one race on the cover and inside the book, another race.



message 33: by new_user (new)

new_user Wow, that is easier, LOL. Thanks, Justine! I only saw Something Deeper once, but I deleted the others. If you see any more duplicates, feel free to delete! LOL.

Do you guys think we should organize the shelves by pairing since people look out for them? BWWM, etc. What do you think?


message 34: by Arch , Mod (new)

Arch  | 6707 comments Mod
That would be nice.


message 35: by Justine (new)

Justine | 1361 comments new_user wrote: "Wow, that is easier, LOL. Thanks, Justine! I only saw Something Deeper once, but I deleted the others. If you see any more duplicates, feel free to delete! LOL.

Do you guys think we should organiz..."


hmmmmmmm that's a good idea but how many pairings
1 BWWM
2 WWBM
3 BWNA
4 BWAM

And what about those of the paranormal genre. I would be happy to take a look and see

And if I come across anymore dupes I will be happy to delete em :-)



message 36: by Justine (new)

Justine | 1361 comments new_user wrote: "Wow, that is easier, LOL. Thanks, Justine! I only saw Something Deeper once, but I deleted the others. If you see any more duplicates, feel free to delete! LOL.

Do you guys think we should organiz..."


See, and that's the thing with this site that we've talked about. I've noticed that if you choose the book from Amazon.com and someone has already logged it to the shelf but they did so from Goodreads. The site doesn't mark it added. I've noticed this on some occasions. Isn't that weird?!




message 37: by Justine (new)

Justine | 1361 comments OK then can one of the mods add a shelf BWWM. I don't see anywhere that I can add it


message 38: by Arch , Mod (last edited Apr 03, 2009 10:26AM) (new)

Arch  | 6707 comments Mod
I've added a shelf BWWM. When a book is added, the person posting the book can choose the BWWM option.

Now, does anyone know if all the books listed here falls under the BWWM category. If so, I can try to add as many as I can under the BWWM option, but not until I get home.

I've also added the following shelves:

WWBM
BWNA
BWAM

So, you should be able to pick the shelves the book falls under.





message 39: by new_user (last edited Apr 03, 2009 02:46PM) (new)

new_user Awesome! Thanks for creating the shelves, Arch. I think most of them fall under those four groupings. I added historical, suspense and paranormal in case anyone has an interest. Have at it! LOL. ;) It shouldn't be too hard if we're all working on it.


message 40: by Arch , Mod (new)

Arch  | 6707 comments Mod
Thanks for creating those shelves New_User.

Yeah, I think all the books probably fall under BWWM.


message 41: by CaliGirlRae, Mod Squad (new)

CaliGirlRae (rae_l) | 2017 comments Mod
Would it be okay to add a erotic and non erotic designation? That would be most helpful in sifting through the books. :-)


message 42: by new_user (new)

new_user Yes, I think that would help, but I'm not sure how we would judge them... Normally I can tell by the publisher but we probably only have a handful of publishers here and they seem to publish a range of material.


message 43: by CaliGirlRae, Mod Squad (last edited Apr 03, 2009 06:55PM) (new)

CaliGirlRae (rae_l) | 2017 comments Mod
Well there's a big difference between sensual romance and erotica. Erotica is usually based around the sexual relationship with strong words that may not be suitable for a wide audience. Such as by Marilyn Lee. Erotic romance still has the supposed HEA but the sex scenes are not as continuous and the words are more sensual.

It's more difficult to designate now with the epublishers sometimes selling high erotic content as regular romance. But usually you designate each by heat level or check the publisher's site where the books are listed under. That's how it's usually done with most publishers.



message 44: by Arch , Mod (last edited Apr 03, 2009 07:05PM) (new)

Arch  | 6707 comments Mod
I don't read erotic books, but wouldn't a person that buy and read erotic books know the book is erotic?

Isn't Red Rose Publishing, a company that produces erotic books? All books listed that comes from that company can go under erotic.

I'm going to create an erotic shelf and non-erotic shelf.

An erotic shelf was already created, so I have created an non-erotic shelf.


message 45: by new_user (new)

new_user Hey, Arch, I don't think we really need a non-erotic shelf. We can just assume those not on the erotic shelf are non. ;)

If we're categorizing based on publisher, I think most readers know their erotic publishers -and that's many times indicated in the book thumbnails- so even that might be redundant.


message 46: by Arch , Mod (new)

Arch  | 6707 comments Mod
New_User, are you organizing the books?


message 47: by CaliGirlRae, Mod Squad (new)

CaliGirlRae (rae_l) | 2017 comments Mod
That's true, Arch, they would know. But someone coming in just starting out with IR may not know. Some authors stick with erotica and some don't so I designated which ones I recognized. Red Rose does both erotic and mainstream. One good thing is they have the book listing under the erotica heading so one can sift through easily. Publishers like Ellora's Cave is an automatic erotic designation.

I was wondering where that non-erotic shelf came from lol. I added a non-erotic romance shelf as well just in case someone is looking for strictly romance. But I put most of the non-erotic reads under both shelves just in case someone is looking for an overall genre without the erotic content. That should be really helpful though!

I shelved most of the books I recognized under what I remember from the characters and content. Most of the authors I recognize are strictly erotic but some I'm not quite sure of so I left it.

This is great!


message 48: by Arch , Mod (new)

Arch  | 6707 comments Mod
Okay, please remove the books from non-erotic and put them, under non-erotic romance books. I will delete non-erotic.

You all handle the books.


message 49: by CaliGirlRae, Mod Squad (last edited Apr 03, 2009 07:31PM) (new)

CaliGirlRae (rae_l) | 2017 comments Mod
Oh no. I think it would be good to keep them because sometimes readers are looking for more than just non-erotic romance. Sometimes they want a non-erotic IR suspense or something that isn't really romance-y and the non-erotic headline would help them find that particular book, you know? Kinda like the David Handler and Judith Smith-Levin books which would fall under that.

We should keep it. :-D


message 50: by Arch , Mod (new)

Arch  | 6707 comments Mod
Okay, Rae.

You all go ahead and do the books. I will stay away from the group shelf.


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