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there is God. and then there is god (as in gods and goddesses) so which one do you believe in?
Sierra wrote: "Xdyj wrote: "How would you define the word "God"? What do you think people really mean when they say there is, or there isn't a God? Does the word "God" have any meaning if it is not used within th..."There are a few compelling arguments that can be presented in favour of the existence of a creator. That, however, is not one of them. It's like one of the religious memes I saw the other day where a kid says that you can't prove the existence of brain in humans because we can't see it.
Sierra wrote: "Xdyj wrote: "How would you define the word "God"? What do you think people really mean when they say there is, or there isn't a God? Does the word "God" have any meaning if it is not used within th..."I'm just asking a general question, because I think in order to meaningfully argue for the existence or non-existence of God, we need to have some understanding of the meaning of "God" and the meaning of "existence" when these words are used by other ppl.
Sasha Ivashkov-Herondale-Jackson (aka Clarisse) wrote: "there is God. and then there is god (as in gods and goddesses) so which one do you believe in?"I believe in God. One God. And in my opinion, the only God.
Kris wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Xdyj wrote: "How would you define the word "God"? What do you think people really mean when they say there is, or there isn't a God? Does the word "God" have any meaning if it is not..."Kate wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Xdyj wrote: "How would you define the word "God"? What do you think people really mean when they say there is, or there isn't a God? Does the word "God" have any meaning if it is not..."
As I said before, I've seen enough proof in the Bible. There are prophecies that were written years and years ago in the Bible that are coming true today. So the proof is in front of me every day as well.
Student4ever wrote: "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able..."I'm sure you know the whole story about Satan getting cast out of heaven and tempting Eve to eat the forbidden fruit and then she convinced Adam to as well and so on, so on.
When Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit, they brought sin to all mankind. And that was Satan's goal in the first place. So God could have just done away with Adam, Eve, and Satan and started all over. But why didn't He?
Because doing away with them all would have proven Satan right. That he could get mankind to turn away from God and give in to his demands instead. But God knew that not all humans would do this. So, he didn't do away with Adam, Eve, or Satan because he's giving Satan the chance to prove himself. But there are and have been in the past, people who have been loyal to God.
That might sound like a lot of nonsense to some of you, so think about this: You're in a math class, learning a new lesson. The teacher gives an example problem and shows the class how to do it and get the right answer. But one student claims that the answer the teacher got is wrong. The teacher could just say that yes, the answer is right and deny the student an explanation to why he thinks the answer is wrong. But what kind of teacher would that be? Would you start to doubt that how the teacher found the answer is the right way?
That's how it is with God. If he denied Satan the right to prove himself, than it could have seemed like God didn't want to be proved wrong. That he didn't believe that we, as humans could actually stay loyal to him. And what kind of God would that be?
Xdyj wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Xdyj wrote: "How would you define the word "God"? What do you think people really mean when they say there is, or there isn't a God? Does the word "God" have any meaning if it is not..."Well, I think of God as many things, but one of the main ones is the Creator. He created us in his image (not physically, but quality wise).
Can you define your self . . ? . . .why every body going to define god? . . .Just try to find him with in you . . .then you came to know who is he. . . .
Sierra wrote: "Kris wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Xdyj wrote: "How would you define the word "God"? What do you think people really mean when they say there is, or there isn't a God? Does the word "God" have any meaning..."As I said, since your line of argument involves the idea of literally believing in the Bible, it is very easy to practically disprove your God on that basis. You literally believe in the creation story and as far as I know, even the Catholic Church has distanced itself from it.
I'm not big on this debate. There is no substancial evidence for or against god. I understand relgious debates, but this argument is kind of frivelous and can go in circles.
Sierra wrote: "Student4ever wrote: "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evi..."Idk, but do you think "proving to Satan that he is right" is enough reason for God to allow millions of humans to suffer from all the murders, wars & tyrannies in this world?
Kris wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Kris wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Xdyj wrote: "How would you define the word "God"? What do you think people really mean when they say there is, or there isn't a God? Does the word "God" h..."I believe in the Bible because of what I've seen in the world. Have you ever read any of the Bible? Have any of you? I'm sorry, I don't mean to sound rude, but I'm just curious.
H99 wrote: "Rose wrote: "I'm not big on this debate. There is no substancial evidence for or against god. I understand relgious debates, but this argument is kind of frivelous and can go in circles."Agreed. ..."
Rose wrote: "I'm not big on this debate. There is no substancial evidence for or against god. I understand relgious debates, but this argument is kind of frivelous and can go in circles."
True, it's just interesting for me. I don't know if it is for anybody else, but it is for me...Also, I feel like it's me against everybody else, but I don't mind. I like sharing my beliefs :)
Xdyj wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Student4ever wrote: "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then wh..."But that's the thing. God is going to take over soon. He's going to make everything better. I know it might be hard for some of you to believe, but I'd be willing to share some scriptures if you guys are willing to hear them. I don't want you to feel like I'm forcing my religion on you though.
Sierra wrote: "H99 wrote: "Rose wrote: "I'm not big on this debate. There is no substancial evidence for or against god. I understand relgious debates, but this argument is kind of frivelous and can go in circles..."I find that pretty brave, I respect you taking a stand.
Sierra wrote: "Kris wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Kris wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Xdyj wrote: "How would you define the word "God"? What do you think people really mean when they say there is, or there isn't a God? Does the..."Everyone has read the Bible. It's the biggest selling book of all time. If you read the Bible, there is no way you can believe it literally. If you do, what is your rationale in not believing in the thousands of other fairy tales and religious books scattered around the globe? You are a Christian because you were born in a Christian household, which is the case 99% of the people. There is no reason to believe in the Christian book any more than believing the Muslim, Hindu or any other religious book.
Rose wrote: "Sierra wrote: "H99 wrote: "Rose wrote: "I'm not big on this debate. There is no substancial evidence for or against god. I understand relgious debates, but this argument is kind of frivelous and ca..."Thank you :)
Kris wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Kris wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Kris wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Xdyj wrote: "How would you define the word "God"? What do you think people really mean when they say there is, or there isn't ..."Actually, I was not raised in a Christian household. In fact, I'm pretty much the most religious person in my family. I've seen what I need to see to believe that what the Bible says is true. I don't need anybody else to tell me so. Not my parents, or my friends.
We always need answers. We have a reasoning mesh that enables us to question on basic norms; i.e, "the existence and origin of something must have a creator, doesn't it?" is one of them. Because the easier you get to the closure the less paranoia there's of becoming a monomaniac, madman chanting gibberish gobbledygook. As humans have to have all the answers and that raises often most confused and answer-less questions...Many philosophers, scientists, 'genius' enthusiasts died over seeking the answer or better, seeking the true question...we may never know as becoming of us. The depth of it is beyond the understanding of a human brain; it's a part of the whole setup. That makes the understanding a 'clear soup' but filled with many flavors, those flavors remains 'earthly' because the knowledge is limited and easily preconceived through growth. People can't even accept that. It's in the nature too.
What I think is; Religion provides the cultures, various cultural pedestals. The nomenclature of those cultural entities and their set of beliefs, seeks a parameter on the global cultural aspects. Wars prevail over supremacy. Radical views of religious extremists try hard to impose those pedestal on others, resulting communal violence, people die. That mostly gives rise to a set of oppressed (or not) non believers those continually prove the no existence of what you can't even conceive universally. The whole argument is a paradox in itself, the paradigm of consciousness is settled on a common ground of 2D circle.
I respect all sorts of beliefs though. There's God in people and that's enough for me. If parents say god shall be with you and help you overcome spikes, they are the god right there, that your 'definitional god' would do. Although I can't say I don't believe in such and such religion and belong here and there, but personally I refrain from tagging/naming my belief system.
And, I'd love the idea of a religion-free government organisations and judicial systems. But It can't be done to my liking unless I become the system. Protests are worth a tonne of crap.
Moral of the story: Believe all you want but please try not to be a radical about it. It goes for both believers and non-believers.
Sierra wrote: "Kris wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Kris wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Xdyj wrote: "How would you define the word "God"? What do you think people really mean when they say there is, or there isn't a God? Does the..."Yes, & I like it even though I don't consider myself Christian.
Well I do believe there are divine beings watching over us, but I don't believe in just 1 god. I believe there are many. And sure, sometimes I disagree with Christian stuff. I do however respect the fact that they love unconditionally. Personally I feel that they are paradoxical people, I won't go into detail so I won't affend all of you.
H99 wrote: "I am a girl. ;O wrote: "If anyone wants to read an article I thought was cool, here's a link: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/frenchre...It's only one o..."
exactly.
Sierra wrote: "Kris wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Kris wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Kris wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Xdyj wrote: "How would you define the word "God"? What do you think people really mean when they say there is, or..."not to be rude.
but yes many religious books havethings written in them that are prophecies of the future. They even had oracles during the ancient greek times. And (only because im reading percy jackson) the Sybilline books. So its not just the bible...
Nostradamus was knows for all the prophecies and things he predicted.
Sasha Ivashkov-Herondale-Jackson (aka Clarisse) wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Kris wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Kris wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Kris wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Xdyj wrote: "How would you define the word "God"? What do you think people really mean when they s..."Yes, but are those things coming true today?
Sierra wrote: "Sasha Ivashkov-Herondale-Jackson (aka Clarisse) wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Kris wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Kris wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Kris wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Xdyj wrote: "How would you define the word..."YES! which is why i mentioned them.
Else Nostradamus whould not be famous.
Sasha Ivashkov-Herondale-Jackson (aka Clarisse) wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Sasha Ivashkov-Herondale-Jackson (aka Clarisse) wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Kris wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Kris wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Kris wrote: "Sierra wrote: "Xdyj wrote: "How would you ..."Can you give an example? I'm sorry, I'm just really fascinated by this stuff.
Well to really state what I belive (guess it won't hurt) is that people create certain beliefs to harness soceity and put people into place, and succeding by promising eternal life or inner salvation. I think to guess wether or not there is no god or not and tell others that you know the answer to that is ignorant. I won't walk to a christian or Muslim and say that their god isn't real, because I have no clue, nor would I find it appropriate for them to say that their god is the only god and that I should belive in him. My descion to burn in every hell that there is (which I will if they exist) is my own, and we live in a world where that choice shouldn't be alterd in any way.
Couldn't help but come here...I am an atheist, and enjoy this debate greatly.
I believe there is no God.I believe in a repeated and timeless universe in which everything that can happen, will happen. Ergo life is inevitable.
I believe that death is finite. There is no afterlife; so make best use of the one you have now.
I believe in logic, science, and rational empiricism.
Homeopathy does not work. Ghosts do not exist. Nor does the devil, nor demons, nor angels.
I believe Jesus was a great man and a fool both.
Morganvillechic wrote: "lol my grandma thought that an atheist worshiped Satan o_O I guess she thought I worship Satan because I am an atheist as well."Yeah, I have that problem a lot of time, with people not knowing what an atheist is, and so they assume the worst.
Lol, if only it was that simple...
H99 wrote: "If only it was... :D Wouldn't it be nice, though, if that was all it took to fix it?"Yeah, that would be really nice.
Are you just asking a general question? Or somebody in specific?
Also, I just wanted to say something that goes with the whole "there's no proof of God's existence" thing. We can't see air. Yet it's there, and it helps us live every day. And we can feel it. For me, God is no different. I can't see Him, but I know He's there. I can feel Him and He helps me when in need.