Rothfussians discussion

Try Robin Hobb Farseer Trilogy. Assassin's Apprentice. Good trilogy that if you enjoy continues on. Also i would request Mistborn Trilogy Boxed Set Its a great series. If you haven't read either of these i would suggest giving both a chance.

Which should I start first, The Farseer Trilogy or Mistborn?

Mistborn!

And why?

Because mistborn is a great series.

I'm planning on reading Farseer next. So I can't give a personal recommendation for or against it. But I will say I thought mistborn was incredible. Awesome characters, great humor, engaging story. I recommend it to everyone.

What makes it great? Details and examples

I mean if you're planning on reading both. Which you read first is totally up to you. The order doesn't really matter does it?

I guess not lol

Hey Ethan,

Here's how I would describe the difference between Mistborn and Farseer: Mistborn is an action movie; Assassin's Apprentice is a drama.

Read Mistborn if you're in the mood for: good guys kicking ass against the bad guys, epic fight scenes, a charismatic leader who outsmarts everyone.

Read Assassin's Apprentice if you're in the mood for: magic that bonds people and animals, a lonely boy trying to find his place in the world, a character-driven novel.

Michael,

I stand corrected. That didn't occur to me since I don't log my re-reads.

Just so you know, I would not have considered you less a fan if you had only recently discovered ASOIAF. I (mistakenly) thought that, as a newer fan, you might not be aware that the long wait for book six is standard at this point.

You are absolutely allowed to voice your opinion. I simply disagree. You're frustrated at the long wait. I get it. I'd love to be able to read DOS or WOW tomorrow. But I'd rather wait until they're perfect. No hard feelings, I hope.

None at all thats y i apologized. As a Fellow Fan of similar authors, you can understand. i just boil over every now and again… haha and i agree i rather have both of them complete their stories to there full potential know matter how long…( i have health concerns for martin) Enjoy your books Manda and hopefully we will get our books sooner or Later!!

By the way….. The way you described the differences between Mistborn and Farseer was Dead on! You nailed the comparison to Movies! Either series Ethan and you will enjoy….. I did.

I think I'll try Written in Redand Mistborn Trilogy Boxed Set they both seem interesting thanks for the recs

I started Mistborn last night and like it so far. The magic system is really cool, just as everyone suggested it was. Thanks guys

I hope so I'm very picky when it comes to fantasy novels there are so many out there and more often than not they are usually crap. Don't get me wrong I love good world building its a necessary component to any good story but some writers take it way too far and instead of an interesting plot, I am bombarded with so much information about the world that it takes place in that the actual story is overwhelmed and lost along the way. It takes a certain flair to be able to create the scene without losing the plot.

Just started The Broken Empire series seems pretty promising so far and a bit darker than Sanderson and everyone likes a bit of dark :)

I fell in love with the Prince of Thorns series and that one was pretty dark I think that's why I loved it so much, by all intents and purposes I should have hated the main character he was beyond any doubt the villain but I couldn't dislike him. If you haven't read it I highly recommend it you will either love it or hate it there's not much gray area in between.

Already on to the second book and lovin' it, I think part of the reason you can like him is the the fact there are pretty much 0 nice/likeable characters (even ASOFAI has a few guys to get behind) so it much easier to like the bastard and his brutal internal monologue!

I wasn't at all sure I could like Jorg but I'm a sucker for a good revenge story. That probably skewed things in his favor (I'm on book 3).

I have looked at the Prince of Thrones series a few times and debated starting it. I even have read the sample but was on the fence. Now if you fellow good readers are saying its a good series and worth the time, I will give it a look again. I just finished T. H. White's, The Once and Future King, Which is on not Dark by any means. I was debating the bookI Know Not. Which I bought and intend to read just didn't start. Has anyone read I Know Not? just curious of people opinions?

Michael wrote: "I have looked at the Prince of Thrones series a few times and debated starting it. I even have read the sample but was on the fence. Now if you fellow good readers are saying its a good series and ..."

Its a really good series. If you start it I highly recommend reading all 3. Mark Lawrence does a really good job of explaining the motivation and reasons why Jorge Ancrath is the way he is. If you just read the first one I think it will leave you thinking the story is just violent and cruel. When it is far more human than that. He doesnt write with the fluidity and clarity of Rothfuss but he is a very talented writer and worthy of notice.

One of my favorite and least known fantasy books is Talion:Revenant by Michael A. Stackpole. If you like Blood Song you will love this book. It's crazy that a book such as this has went pretty much unnoticed. I highly recommend it!!

Not sure if you guys are strictly planted in the realm of fantasy or whether you venture to other genres or not but I figure there is no harm in asking.

I have to say at this point I am a little disgusted, for the last week I have tried and failed to find a romance worth reading. Everything that I have picked up has either been so sickingly sweet that that I had to resist the urge to gag or so unbelievably vulgar that I cringed. I don't see why it is so difficult to find a balance. Frost had no problem creating it, it wasn't overly sweet or unbelievable. The romance progressed naturally and the end result was the dynamic of Cat and Bones. I don't understand why I can't find another like it. And frankly its really starting to tick me off. I want a slow build and actually chemistry without all the inner monologue if its written the right way I won't need page after page of love declarations it will simple jump off the page and play before my eyes. Why can't I find this? Do more of these books exist and if so where are they hiding?

Any help would be appreciated thanks

Jacqueline Carey's Kushiel series is fantasy with strong romantic elements. I should warn that it features several BDSM relationships but they are tastefully and respectfully done.

N.K. Jemisin's Inheritance series is also fantasy with strong romantic elements. Jemisin does some interesting things with narrative and I think you could read any of these books as a standalone.

Eleanor and Park is YA romance. It's kinda sweet and kinda dark and very funny. Nerds falling in love on the bus in 1986. The author, Rainbow Rowell, has written an adult romance and another classified as new adult but Eleanor and Park is my favorite.

The Broken Empire is very good if you like your main character slightly dubious in regards to morals. I really liked it and look forward to Mark Lawrence's newest book. As for romance can I suggest Longbourn, a retelling of Jane Austen's Pride & Prejudice only from the point of view of the servants. No zombies, only a lot of nice touches.

Thank you for the recommendations sadly Jorg and I have already had our love affair. I loved that book it is one my favorites wouldn't exactly call it a romance though. Actually his dubious nature and I think that is putting it mildly is what made me love the series. Its refreshing to hear the story from the bad guy's point of view. I will try Longbourn as I love all things Jane Austen.

Manda- thank for your recommendations as well I have added them to my to read list.

Non-fantasy book that is a quick, easy read…. Perfect for the Beach or just a nice light read that Bookies will enjoy, because its kind of about books!!Mr. Penumbra's 24-Hour Bookstore

On the topic of dark (although not even close to romantic) and a Sci-fi not fantasy Stephen donaldson's gap series I think is great really well written I found it almost odd I enjoyed it so much as I never managed to get into the chronicles of Thomas Covenant!

Just finished reading Murder of Crows and although I was hooked after reading Written in Red now I'm even more so. So now the question remains.. What do I read now? 2015 is a long way off so in the mean time maybe I can discover more gems like this one. I loved everything about it. It had excellent world building, a great plot and dynamic characters that were more believable than cliché. Maybe you guys can make more recommendations like that. So when I crack open my next book I'm not met with disappointment.

If your not already familiar with Neil Gaiman for stand alone books American gods then the graveyard book and even though I still can't tell you why I love it the ocean at the end of the lane, beautiful writing great stories x

I have only read one of his books Neverwhere...it was very strange. I still don't know if I liked it or not but I did finish it.

I'd 2nd Graveyard book and Ocean At The End Of The Lane, really beautifully written books. I also just finishedBlood Song(the audio version) after seeing it recommended on here and was not disappointed at all.

I didn't like Neverwhere or American Gods which is similar but I loved the others.

Neverwhere pushed my boundaries and exceeded the level of weirdness that I'm able to tolerate. Still it was very well written and I could appreciate it for that reason alone, even if my mind wouldn't accept it.

I'm reading the Fool's Assasin. By Robin Hobb
I got an advanced copy. It doesn't come out till Aug. it's great to be back into the world of Fitz. I'm about 9/10ths of the way done and if you are a fan of the farseer' and Tawny man series it a must read. Not a fast paced story but brilliantly written with great surprises for old Tom Badgerlock and Co. I'm so happy I won this book!!

Haven't read it yet it might be on my to read list. Not sure there are just so many.

AHHHH im a Big Fan of The Farseer trilogy and the Tawny Man! so this knew one is still inline with Fitz!!! Im very excited Robin is a good easy read and now i am looking into the Fools Assasin! great to here there back! your a lucky one to get it this early! how did you win it?

I just finished it!! Obviously I wont give any spoilers. But I am with you. I loved the two trilogies with Fitz and the Fool. I loved this book for the simple fact that Robin Hobb gave us back our favorite characters. I will not lie and say Fool's Assassin is a book full of action and adventure. But there is a little of both in it. But the story and characters,some new some old are very well written very interesting. all I can say is I NEED to know what happens next! I hope she is a faster writer than some other Authors I love. I wont name names :).

Michael wrote: "AHHHH im a Big Fan of The Farseer trilogy and the Tawny Man! so this knew one is still inline with Fitz!!! Im very excited Robin is a good easy read and now i am looking into the Fools Assasin! gre..."
There are links on Goodreads from time to time that say "enter to win books by Said authors" I always click on them but never win. Last thurs. I checked my mail box and found a plain white package with Fool's Assassin inside and nothing else. No note or anything. But it was a great suprise. I read all 6 of the Fitz books within the last year. I couldnt get into the other trilogies Ships of magic. But for some reason Fitz especially Nighteyes gets me.

I am 2/3 of the way through Joe Abercrombies's First Law series The Blade Itself #1, it is fantastic and a great read. A definite must read. Humor, great characters and plot.

I have that on hold at the library guess I need to go pick it up . I don't have the other series on my list I'll look it up and see if its something that I want to read. Grats on winning your book.

Rogues is out today, with Pat's novella length "The Lightning Tree."

...and The First Law Trilogy was an enjoyable read for sure...

The First Law trilogy is awesome. I think you'd like it, Liaden, since you enjoyed The Broken Empire. Lots of grey characters and black humor.

Rogues! Woohoo!

I order Rogues! i hope it shipped!

Never Knew Another and the rest of Dogsland Trilogy by J.M. McDermott

I'm reading the The First Law trilogy now. I love it I was pleasantly surprised. When I first started it, it seemed to be following along the same lines as The Dragon's Path and that was just so boring. I only read the first in the series but by the time it finally picked up pace, I had long since lost interest in continuing. This one though (Before they are Hanged) I can't put down I have lost a lot of sleep this book. Which of course in a reader's world is a good thing. Thanks for recommending it.

A Wizard of Earthsea is a great read, and I would say you should read it before the others because it's more of a classic. I always think it's interesting to read older books before newer ones because newer ones are often a "response" to older books.

A Song of Ice and Fire is great, and I've read American Gods and Neverwhere by Neil Gaiman. Both of them were wonderful. Anansi Boys is on my list of things to read once I finish Richard II by Shakespeare. Of The First Law I have only read The Blade Itself, and I didn't think it was that great. The characters are interesting, but after reading the first book I'm still not really sure what the plot is supposed to be about. Still, I've heard tons of people say the books are great, so I might read the second one to see if the story gets any better.

You might also want to check out the new Rogues anthology. It has short stories by Martin, Gaiman, ROTHFUSS, Abercrombie, and a bunch of other great writers. The stories I've read so far have been excellent.

Gah! Rothfuss has ruined my tolerance for so much fantasy lit now! Very little measures up now, too much of it seems to be besotted with the trappings — worlds, beasties, etc. and stupifyingly heroic travails and the characters are largely ignored.

If I don't care about the characters, if they aren't compelling, if they aren't real enough I don't care what happens to them or what they do.

So, I find myself heading for Patricia McKillip, Juliet Marillier, re-reading Patricia Keneally Morrison's Keltiad books, Abraham Merit's classic novels, especially Dwellers in the Mirage, and, in a pinch, Marion Zimmer Bradley's Avalon books.

I've found I like Carol Berg's Collegia Magica books as well.

Jack Cady, although he can't really be classified as fantasy, more of a magical reality sorta guy, if he can really be categorized.

I need to pick up the two Kingkiller books in trade paperback though, so I can re-read them another dozen times. The copies I've got left (after wearing out standard paperbacks) are first editions and I'm keeping those as pristine as possible!

Joe Abercrombie's First Law Trilogy was a blast. I am so pissed I did not pick up on this series when it first came out. What a blast. It took me all of two days to finish book 3 as I could not put it down. A great read.