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Excerpt from INTERNATIONAL BANKSTER$: The Global Banking Elite Exposed and the Case for Restructuring Capitalism:

Less than six months before he was assassinated, President Kennedy had begun formulating a new Federal Reserve Act, which many say would have restored the Fed to a fully-fledged US Government bank.

A little-known Presidential decree – Executive Order 11110 – was signed by Kennedy on June 4, 1963. It would have deprived the Federal Reserve of its ability to loan money to the US Government at interest. By signing the document, President Kennedy was attempting to put an end to the Fed – or at least the Fed as we know it.

Without going into the specifics of Executive Order 11110, it arguably could have stopped the US from reaching its record-level national debt. As of the time of writing, the country’s national debt is a crippling 17 trillion dollars – that’s US$17,000,000,000,000 – and has increased at approximately 2 billion per day for the last 18 months.

Instead, JFK was assassinated as we all know. But what is less known is the United States Notes the President had issued as part of the executive order – notes which were designed to replace the Federal Reserve Notes – were immediately taken out of circulation.

“When Kennedy called for a return of America's currency to the gold standard, and the dismantling of the Federal Reserve System -- he actually minted non-debt money that does not bear the mark of the Federal Reserve; when he dared to actually exercise the leadership authority granted to him by the U.S. Constitution ... Kennedy prepared his own death warrant. It was time for him to go.” –Colonel James Gritz, Called to Serve: Profiles in Conspiracy from John F. Kennedy to George Bush

To this very day, the Federal Reserve Notes remain in circulation as the currency all Americans use.

And, of course, what also remained post JFK was a central bank only nominally under the Government’s control.

“Kennedy's fate was sealed in June 1963 when he authorized the issuance of more than $4 billion in United States Notes by his Treasury Department in an attempt to circumvent the high interest rate usury of the private Federal Reserve international banker crowd. The wife of Lee Harvey Oswald, who was conveniently gunned down by Jack Ruby before Ruby himself was shot, told author A. J. Weberman in 1994, "The answer to the Kennedy assassination is with the Federal Reserve Bank. Don't underestimate that. It's wrong to blame it on Angleton and the CIA per se only. This is only one finger on the same hand. The people who supply the money are above the CIA".” –Jim Marrs, Crossfire: the Plot that Killed Kennedy

James,
You are dangerous. This makes thinking about new and improved possibilities seem real and possible. It was so close to becoming a reality to start with. I like dangerous. Thank you,
Mikhayla

Yes, Mikhayla, creating new and improved systems is VERY possible.
Once the masses stand up for what is right, they can have anything they want.
The powers of the 1% are vastly exaggerated in my opinion.

“During the Kennedy Administration there was an unmistakable reconsideration of the relationship between the permanent wartime economy with the broader national and international political economy. This was evident not only in JFK’s move to scale back US involvement in Vietnam, evident in National Security Action Memorandum 263, but also in his attempt to dismantle the Central Intelligence Agency, and challenge the power of the Federal Reserve Bank by issuing genuine silver-backed currency. In very short order such actions were overturned by Lyndon Johnson and the US was plunged into a murderous and costly war. With Kennedy’s passing the world’s inhabitants may have lost any serious prospect of world peace.” –Prof. James F. Tracy, from article written for Global Research, November 25, 2012

"When Kennedy called for a return of America's currency to the gold standard, and the dismantling of the Federal Reserve System -- he actually minted non-debt money that does not bear the mark of the Federal Reserve; when he dared to actually exercise the leadership authority granted to him by the U.S. Constitution . . . Kennedy prepared his own death warrant. It was time for him to go." -Colonel James Gritz, Called to Serve: Profiles in Conspiracy
from John F. Kennedy to George Bush

“Kennedy's fate was sealed in June 1963 when he authorized the issuance of more than $4 billion in United States Notes by his Treasury Department in an attempt to circumvent the high interest rate usury of the private Federal Reserve international banker crowd. The wife of Lee Harvey Oswald, who was conveniently gunned down by Jack Ruby before Ruby himself was shot, told author A. J. Weberman in 1994, "The answer to the Kennedy assassination is with the Federal Reserve Bank. Don't underestimate that. It's wrong to blame it on Angleton and the CIA per se only. This is only one finger on the same hand. The people who supply the money are above the CIA".” –Jim Marrs, Crossfire: the Plot that Killed Kennedy

Let's barter. I'll give you some eggs, if you give me some milk.

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I got your joke in hindsight, Mikhayla - it relates to the monetary system. Sometimes I'm a bit slow with jokes...
Plus, the only problem is, I have no milk (or eggs) to barter...What happens then? Will I, in that instance, be able to get a personal loan from the Fed? :)

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11110 - Is this why JFK was assassinated? -- https://www.goodreads.com/videos/9306...

There's that damn 1111 number again...

“During the Kennedy Administration there was an unmistakable reconsideration of the relationship between the permanent wartime economy with the broader national and international political economy. This was evident not only in JFK’s move to scale back US involvement in Vietnam, evident in National Security Action Memorandum 263, but also in his attempt to dismantle the Central Intelligence Agency, and challenge the power of the Federal Reserve Bank by issuing genuine silver-backed currency. In very short order such actions were overturned by Lyndon Johnson and the US was plunged into a murderous and costly war. With Kennedy’s passing the world’s inhabitants may have lost any serious prospect of world peace.” –Prof. James F. Tracy, from article written for Global Research, November 25, 2012

JFK Assassination: Executive Order 11110 - Did The Fed Kill JFK?

There are dozens of JFK assassination conspiracy theories, but this book deals with a scenario that most have never considered. In June of 1963 President Kennedy authorized the Treasury Secretary to issue $4.3 billion dollars in Silver Certificate currency. This currency could be issued directly by the U.S. Treasury without the involvement of The Federal Reserve. Executive Order 11110 was signed by President Kennedy just six months before his death and Silver Certificate currency would never be issued again.

Authors James L. Paris and Robert G. Yetman, Jr. take you back to the founding of the Federal Reserve 100 years ago, and expose the little known unconstitutional operations of the U.S. Central Bank. Who are the financial elite that formed the Federal Reserve, and why are they considered the most powerful organization in the world today? Did JFK threaten the power structure of the elite by usurping power from the Federal Reserve with this executive order? Did JFK have plans to dissolve the Federal Reserve as he intended to do with the Central Intelligence Agency? Could the financial elite have been part of an extensive conspiracy to kill the nation’s youngest president? Why was a former president of the World Bank on the Warren Commission?

Published on the 50th Anniversary Of The JFK Assassination, includes a complete overview of all of the major assassination theories. The book comes to life, as more than 20 pictures take you back to that fateful Friday in Dallas - November 22, 1963.

The Fed would not be my No1 target Lance. It has to be remembered that Dallas was a compartmentalised black op. with many elements. Oswald was an intell patsy. Ruby an organised crime asset. Elements of Secret Service, military Intell & CIA involvement. How could the FED alone set up Bethesda & the FBI/Warren cover-up.
JFK, RFK, MLK, Princess Diana and I smell a rat with John Lennon's killing, were all state sponsored executions, all covered up by state and all blamed on lone nut patsies.

This theory is not to say "the Fed alone" orchestrated the entire assassination.
Rather, this idea would be there is an elite or shadow govt who are throughout the highest levels of Congress, the CIA, the FBI, etc.

JFK's little known measures against the Fed would have hit the elite's purse strings more than anything else...more than stopping the Vietnam War, more than restructuring the CIA, this would've been by far the biggest monetary blow as far as I can tell.
Again tho, it's only a theory.

James wrote: "This theory is not to say "the Fed alone" orchestrated the entire assassination.
Rather, this idea would be there is an elite or shadow govt who are throughout the highest levels of Congress, the ..."I've always seen JFK as an enemy of the Pentagon & CIA. Well before '63, just weeks into his presidency he defied both with the Bay of Pigs fiasco. In May of '61 he sent LBJ to Vietnam to meet with Diem. LBJ was working for the Joint Chiefs & against JFK. (See JFK & Vietnam by John Newman) JFK again thwarted the Pentagon during the Cuban Missile Crisis in '62. For the following year Kennedy's cards were on the table with his policy of dismantling the Cold War, no combat troops in Vietnam, the test ban treaty, the Peace speech in June & his back channel peace dialogs with Russia & Cuba.

I have never seen the need for any elite or shadow govt to initiate the assassination. Elements of U.S. Military forces, acting to preserve, as they saw it, national security activated the coup to maintain the war on communism & begin the Vietnam war & secure the military industrial complex...still running today.

We don't know what part the Fed played if any, as you say it's only a theory. BUT we do know the CIA & Military took vital parts in Dallas. Oswald's frame up & the autopsy at Bethesda were vital elements & then LBJ & FBI in the cover-up.

We also see these elements involved in the next two state sanctioned executions of MLK & RFK...again to protect, as they see it, national security.

Yep, the elite or "powers that be" or call them what you will, cover the likes of the CIA NSA the Fed Congrss Military Industrial Complex etc, in my view. These are not totally separate organizations with clearly defined borders. For example the Bush family had historical ties to the Fed (I think Prescott from memory) and then George Bush Sr was CIA director and then both He and his sons were President and now the Bush's Halliburton services the Military Industrial Complex. So these orgs overlap and I think JFK was challenging most US elite empires from the CIA's enormous black budgets to the Vietnam War to central banking But his challenge to the Fed would've been the most crippling financially to the elite.

Also we need to be careful saying the killings of MLK and RFK were "state sanctioned" as you wrote. I know where you are coming from and would tend to agree if I had to bet my life, but that's not proven and only theory re MLK and RFK. More likely they are rogue splinter groups aka shadow govt operating within the US govt. 99% of the military and govt administrations are good people in my view - it's the few rotten eggs at the top (the Cheney the Rumsfields) who ruin everything. So unlikely any of these assassinations were officially sanctioned.

Some observations about conspiracy theories in general:

October 19, 2016
A new survey on issues that concern Americans revealed that a remarkable number of people believe in a variety of conspiracy theories, including one that doesn't even exist!

Conducted by California's Chapman University, the third annual inquiry into what Americans fear provided a fascinating glimpse into conspiracy beliefs and culture.

Researchers found that, of the 1,511 respondents, a considerable percentage said that they subscribed to a variety of different conspiracy theories.

A whopping 54% of the people surveyed indicated a belief that the government is concealing the truth about 9/11.

The JFK assassination followed close behind with 49% and the ET presence as well as global warming also topped the forty percent mark.

Other conspiracy theories which scored higher than 25% were suspicions about a plot to create a one world government and doubts concerning President Obama's birthplace, the origin of AIDS, and the death of Antonin Scalia.

But perhaps most telling among the results from the survey is that nearly 33% of the people said that they believe the government is hiding the truth about the 'North Dakota crash.'

What makes this truly astounding is that there is no such conspiracy theory, leading the sociologists behind the survey to marvel at what appears to be a considerable level of paranoia running rampant in today's society.

Drilling down into the demographic details of the survey, researchers were able to create a fairly distinct profile of the typical conspiracy believer.

According to their data, such an individual is a white, low income Republican who is Christian but only occasionally attends religious services.

Then again, maybe that's just what they want us to believe.

Source: Live Science

David wrote: "Some observations about conspiracy theories in general:

October 19, 2016
A new survey on issues that concern Americans revealed that a remarkable number of people believe in a variety of conspirac..."

Works both ways David and is a balancing act always.
Either too much gullibility exists in an individual (conspiracy extremists) or too much skepticism which becomes illogical cynicism exists (as is more common in mainstream journalists or those in the Establishment).

An example of the latter is when documented conspiracy FACTS like Operation Paperclip, MK-Ultra, Operation Northwoods and other 100% verified conspriacies, are still called conspiracy theories by the mainstream despite being past the point of debate. That's an example of people not having being exposed to enough "underground knowledge" over the years ;)

But yes, we equally need to be on guard against conspiracy paranoia.

As always, good insights. AS for the the FED and JFK, I understand the interest and even a possibility, but a lot of the points are hazy at best.

David wrote: "As always, good insights. AS for the the FED and JFK, I understand the interest and even a possibility, but a lot of the points are hazy at best."

Well I think sometimes we need to get all theories on the table before being able to find the ultimate truth (if that's ever even going to be possible with JFK). So wasn't meaning to suggest this is anything like proof or a smoking gun.

Personally tho, I find JFK's underreported planned restructure on the Fed shortly before his death as compelling an argument for who killed him as anything else, if not more so. But I get that many others may not agree and that's cool. Interestingly tho, it's a theory I have since read about a lot more regarding JFK's assassination in the last year or two.

Agreed, the FED angle has increased in interest. Hard to believe it was this long ago. This year will mark 51 years since President John F. Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas on November 22, 1963.

some webpages

http://www.theweek.co.uk/55933/who-ki...

Oliver Stone's statement: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-ne...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/16/us/jfk-...

Summary (a little overblown) of Fed angle: http://humansarefree.com/2013/11/jfk-...

Interesting articles David.

That deathbed confession from one of JFK's security team is food for thought.

And yes, the article on the Fed was indeed a little overblown...Especially as they refer to the Fed as solely a Rothschild operation, which isn't true...Not surprising that same site also has a lot of articles blaming Zionism/Jews for the world's problems.
However, the article did get it right that JFK's United States Notes, which he planned to eventually fully replace the Federal Reserve Notes under Executive Order 11110, are still minimally in circulation.

Would be interesting to see how much more justice we would have if JFK had lived and served out an 8 year term in office...And if RFK had lived and become President...

Excerpt From: All Wars Are Bankers’ Wars

“As President, John F. Kennedy understood the predatory nature of private central banking. He understood why President Andrew Jackson fought so hard to end the Second Bank of the United States. So Kennedy wrote and signed Executive Order 11110 which ordered the US Treasury to issue a new public currency, the United States Note.

Kennedy was working with President Soekarno of Indonesia who was at that time the signatory for the Global Collateral Accounts which were intended to be used for humanitarian purposes but which were subverted at the time of the Bretton-Woods agreement at the end of WWII.

The intention of Kennedy and Soekarno was to end the reign of the globalist privately owned central banking system – which is the main reason that Kennedy was killed, and for his part Soekarno remained under house arrest for the rest of his life.”

“Electronic Money” under “The One World Order” (OWO): Are We Becoming Western Money Slaves? Solutions? “Resistance Economy”, “De-dollarization”, “De-globalization” http://www.globalresearch.ca/electron...

Excerpt:

"Former attempts (e.g. under JFK) to bring the FED (Federal Reserve) under national reign, have resulted in failure."