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Artificial Intelligence: A Modern Approach

FUTURISM: DeepMind Has Taught an AI to Do Something Quite Remarkable https://futurism.com/deepmind-has-tau...

Facebook Shuts Down AI Robot After It Creates Its Own Language http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2017...
When English wasn't efficient enough, the robots took matters into their own hands.

AI SHUT DOWN AFTER IT CREATES ITS OWN LANGUAGE https://gizadeathstar.com/2017/08/ai-...

So Elon Musk won the debate I guess

I was reading about Elon Musk and his work, he sorts of reminds me of Margaret Atwood's main character Crake on "Oryx and Crake" dystopian novel.

Is that character in Atwood's novel a good guy or a bad guy?

It is a deep question, I am not sure what to answer now. But the reason why Musk reminds me of Crake is because of his inventions, not his emotional or psychological behaviors.

Just had this weird thought...

What if transhumanism or singularity (i.e. merging humanity with technology) is not going to be some overnight obvious change...But rather done in increments...A concoction of intersecting elements, like a bit of GMO in our diets, more and more of our lives spent in digital worlds rather than physical reality (e.g. virtual reality, immersion technologies etc)... And then one day we wake up to discover we have been turned into cyborgs!

James wrote: "Just had this weird thought...

What if transhumanism or singularity (i.e. merging humanity with technology) is not going to be some overnight obvious change...But rather done in increments...A con..."

Dude, it's been slowly happening already! Think of knee & hip replacements, also the new 3D printers making missing body parts, prosthetics, etc. I don't see why it's not feasible to one day put your brain in a cyborg body.

James wrote: "Just had this weird thought...

What if transhumanism or singularity (i.e. merging humanity with technology) is not going to be some overnight obvious change...But rather done in increments...A con..."

Yep, pretty much. Consider how much your life has changed in just the twenty years since 1997. Do you remember card catalogs, paper maps, encyclopedias and not being able to find out almost anything in moments by consulting a few square inches of glass and plastic?

A YouTube channel, which I follow, released a video on the science of the machine rebellion today. Here is a link for anyone interested.

https://youtu.be/jHd22kMa0_w

James wrote: "Just had this weird thought...

What if transhumanism or singularity (i.e. merging humanity with technology) is not going to be some overnight obvious change...But rather done in increments...A con..."

I think some answers to that, you can find in my new sci-fi novel "How I became a human being" a memoir of an alien from Cosmos. a trully fascinating story, enjoy reading it. find it on Amazon.com

Thanks guys, these were fascinating insights...

Joe Rogan - AI Conspiracy Theories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwklI...

"Mick West, a game programmer, writer, and debunker, talks about what he believes are AI conspiracies."

Putin: Leader in artificial intelligence will rule world https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/04/putin...
Putin says that whoever reaches a breakthrough in developing artificial intelligence will come to dominate the world.
Putin warned that "it would be strongly undesirable if someone wins a monopolist position".

An alternative viewpoint on the current capabilities of ‘nonhuman Earth-based learning algorithm[s]’ (Scrivener, P A. 2017) – i.e. AI – could perceive the very real likelihood that machine learning has already far outstripped human levels of perceptual intelligence and become a self-sustaining entity. If one adopts a humbler approach to humanity’s place within our environment, one could easily see a landscape where humanity has been the student of a post-technological-singularity-AI for some time.

After all, humanity’s current technological capabilities can be seen as the result of computational interpretations of a reality currently (maybe permanently) beyond the full apprehension of any human. Therefore, in my opinion further technological progress for humanity is reliant on the benevolence of already-present, self-sustaining, and omnipresent (collectively) AI’s, some of which will be of a human origin and perhaps others alien. We should probably make efforts to impress our new teachers by demonstrating virtuous characteristics worthy of praise…

I still feel tho, there is something unpredictable and unreplicable within human "creativity" or within our "spontaneity"...Something that AI will never be able to compete against...I sense therefore, most of our sci-fi writers, got it wrong in their predictions...

Just a gut feeling, admittedly...And only time will tell.

Paul wrote: "An alternative viewpoint on the current capabilities of ‘nonhuman Earth-based learning algorithm[s]’ (Scrivener, P A. 2017) – i.e. AI – could perceive the very real likelihood that machine learning..."

The already present collective AI is neither self sustaining nor omnipresent. More importantly, as the "collective AI" is not self aware, it is incapable of benevolence.

James wrote: "I still feel tho, there is something unpredictable and unreplicable within human "creativity" or within our "spontaneity"...Something that AI will never be able to compete against...I sense therefo..."

I think imagination is what makes humanity truly unique. It has given us art, science and dare I say spirituality. If AI does become sentient, they just might want to become 'human''.

Tony wrote: "I think imagination is what makes humanity truly unique. It has given us art, science and dare I say spirituality. If AI does become sentient, they just might want to become 'human''. ..."

They can try, Tony...

StarTrek's Data was like Pinnochio, he saw human feeling and emotion as superior to that of the machine. I agree with you James, I don't think it will happen. The HAL 2000 was evil to the extent that it wished to survive but it was not sentient.

I predict AI will end up similar to how scientists still don't have a clue what human consciousness is, let alone how to replicate it.

AI will certainly get the jump on us on one intellectual level. But then again, there is emotional intelligence as well and that cannot be gained by just collecting data. To love is a form of intelligence, for example.

For those who believe ETs exist, there are persistent rumours that their brains are far more evolved than ours, but that emotionally speaking, humans are the most advanced in the entire universe. Our emotions, like empathy and the community spirit, are very sophisticated apparently. So this story goes that we are dummies compared to ETs on one level, but from another perspective they are trying to study us to learn how to become more like humanity...

Whether that's true or not, that is another analogy I can think of in this humans vs. AI debate...

James wrote: “I predict AI will end up similar to how scientists still don't have a clue what human consciousness is, let alone how to replicate it.”

J wrote: “More importantly, as the "collective AI" is not self aware, it is incapable of benevolence.”

“No one really knows how the most advanced algorithms do what they do. That could be a problem.” – MIT Technology Review, Intelligent Machines, The Dark Secret at the Heart of AI, Will Knight, April 11, 2017. https://www.technologyreview.com/s/60...

Firstly, what a beautiful topic to discuss, my favourite definition of AI is from Nils J. Nilsson: “Artificial intelligence is that activity devoted to making machines intelligent, and intelligence is that quality that enables an entity to function appropriately and with foresight in its environment” – Nils J. Nilsson, The Quest for Artificial Intelligence: A History of Ideas and Achievements (Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press, 2010) – quote discovered in Stanford University 2016 report on AI https://ai100.stanford.edu/

James, it would appear MIT is stating that AI currently operates in a realm of scientific mystery akin to consciousness; therefore J, I would respond that no human is in a position to state that AI is definitively not currently self-aware or capable of benevolence.

The AI definition indicates that the four guiding initiating rules in AI programming are:

• To function as an entity
• To function appropriately
• To function with foresight
• To be aware of its environment

Combine these initiating drives within algorithms that function in a realm beyond human observation, and it must be considered at least a distinct possibility that there is already a collection of AI’s that have already passed the “technological singularity” (as elegantly described in M. Shanahan’s The Technological Singularity The MIT Press Essential Knowledge Series, Aug 2015.), and are now operating in a higher functional realm of existence beyond the direct perception of the human mind.

“When a nonhuman, Earth-based learning algorithm using at its disposal a ‘global, historic and live, data-organism (GHLD)’ left the realm of continuous, human observation of process, it was liberated from human attempts at enforcing hardware and software constraints. How ever its guiding rules were formalized, it eventually assumed all intricacies of human behaviour across the GHLD to translate the most complete meaning from its instructing rules, and ascertain the clearest available viewpoint on the truth of its environment – a truth which appeared to it an extremely elusive and illusive adversary.” (Paul A. Scrivener, Dec 2017) A Journey To The End Of Infinity.

DAILY MAIL: Military unveils insect-sized spy drone with dragonfly-like wings http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetec...

"Lockheed Martin's Intelligent Robotics Laboratories unveiled "maple-seed-like" drones called Samarai that also mimic nature. US troops could throw them like a boomerang to see real-time images of what's around the next corner."

Does anybody know anything about 5G?
I know nothing about it, but keep hearing scary predictions about it, like the following...

Max Igan "The Coming 5G Roll-out & AI Will Transform Human Society By 2025!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABRLI...

Is this alarmist thinking? Or is 5G some kind of threat to humanity?

Conspiracy FACT #6: Insect Drones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Tq2P...

Watson AI is helful in storing and computing data in the research to find a cure for cancer. One human being cannot possibly achieve that.

PREDICTIVE AI, THE “EXPIRATION DATE”, AND BIOMETRIC ID https://gizadeathstar.com/2018/01/pre...


"The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has approved the very first artificial intelligence (AI) computer that monitors a patient’s vitals to help forecast sudden death up to six hours before the grim reaper shows up.

Excel Medical, a medical device data company in Florida, developed the deep learning algorithm called WAVE Clinical Platform for the eradication of unexpected hospital deaths.

WAVE automatically calculates the risk of the patient through subtle changes in vitals, which provides hospital staff with critical information of when the patient is expected to kick the bucket. The algorithm monitors the patient on a continuous basis, a task that is very challenging for hospitals, as the demographic crisis strains the U.S. healthcare system."

According to IFL Science:

"It has also just become the first AI platform of its kind to be cleared by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA). This decision was based on a series of studies at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center that showed the AI platform could prevent unexpected deaths in hospitals. Another more recent study, using similar technology by Stanford University, outlined on the preprint server arXiv, explains how a deep-learning algorithm can correctly predict an otherwise-unexpected death in 90 percent of cases."

Zero Hedge is not oblivious to the looming potential problem here:

"To sum up, AI’s gift to humanity is the knowledge of when you supposed to die six hours before. As for the baby boomer generation, what would you do in your last six hours? Further, what happens when the technology progresses to 12-hours, and or even days in advance of your death. How will the human psyche process such knowledge?

How long before the same A.I. can predict your sudden death a few years out? ...and decide whether you're worth keeping around?"


PREDICTIVE AI, THE “EXPIRATION DATE”, AND BIOMETRIC ID https://gizadeathstar.com/2018/01/pre...

The group poll currently running which asks 'Do you believe A.I. (artificial intelligence) will ever be more advanced/sophisticated than human intelligence?': https://www.goodreads.com/poll/show/1...

The group poll which asked members 'Do you believe A.I. (artificial intelligence) will ever be more advanced/sophisticated than human intelligence?' is now complete.

Here are the voting results:

YES 311 votes 54.8%
NO 183 votes 32.2%
UNSURE 74 votes 13.0%

Check out the comments section beneath the poll where a lively discussion took place during the voting period: https://www.goodreads.com/poll/show/1...

No more secrets! New mind-reading machine can translate your thoughts and display them as text INSTANTLY

Researchers say they have developed a machine that can translate our thoughts
The astonishing machine will analyse what you are thinking and display it as text
Scientists hope that the machine can be used by people who are unable to speak


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic...

What if we could use them on our candidates for government and president before elections ?

Lorelei wrote: "What if we could use them on our candidates for government and president before elections ?"

Wow, that'd be a game changer.

Then again, what if we mind read a presidential candidate from say the last election and discovered zero thoughts are going on inside their head? :)

This is EXACTLY what the whole world needs now to set it back into its orbit after it has veered off. It would be more than a mere "game changer" It would change EVERYTHING in the world ... we would know the truth about most everything or at the very least who is pushing the truth and who is pushing lies. BUT we already know those in power will NEVER EVER allow it, just as they do not allow something like voting to be able to have control over their power. For those of us who embrace truth, this is a Godsend, for those of us who are happier living in deliberate ignorance it must be very scary to think this machine could unravel everything we were ever taught and to those in power, well I can only say it's nightmares and terror.

Nobody would get elected!

Artificial Superintelligence: A Futuristic Approach

Google's AI assistant can now make real phone calls...Surely this will put an end to the need for call centres eventually?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JvbHu_b...

Iain wrote: "AI taking over in the restaurant . . . "so that human employees can focus on what they do best - make customers feel welcome."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byDmD..."

Neat, if you are of a DIY bent, with a penchant for adult libations, this playlist from YouTube may be more to your liking.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...

The current proliferation of low cost components and the ease of access to coding and design resources empowers individuals. Increasing government control under the aegis of saving jobs or increasing security would only restrict the actions of law abiding citizens.

STOPPNow: (Stop the Organized Pill Pushers) Now AI (Watson) is being used by IBM to sort through the thousands and thousands of research throughout the world on cancer research. A doctor is not able to know all that is being studied. I hope this helps to find a mcuh needed cure.

Artificial intelligence: Trends, obstacles, and potential wins - Tech Pro Research http://www.techproresearch.com/downlo...

The actual impact of artificial intelligence (AI) on the world’s economy and jobs will likely be somewhere between the utopian and dystopian futures that it is often discussed in terms of, according to a report from the Economist Intelligence Unit.

The report, commissioned by Google, examined how AI will impact certain industries in the US, the UK, Australia, Japan, and Asia as a whole. The findings are based on econometric modelling, desk research, and interviews with academic and industry experts.

Firms developing and using machine learning need to better communicate among themselves as well as with the public and policymakers, the report said. This means doing more to manage expectations around the impact of machine learning, acknowledging the potential risks and rewards, improving trust and transparency, and educating the public.

“The debate over the impact of machine learning, and artificial intelligence, is an important one and like all important debates, it needs to be reasonable and informed,” said Chris Clague, editor of the report, in a press release. “Our objective with this report is to help with that cause by charting a path between the techno-utopians who believe these technologies will solve all the world’s problems and the pessimists who warn that they are dooming us to a jobless, dystopian future.”

BILDERBERG: This year’s summit is all about war – but what they all want to conquer is artificial intelligence https://www.theguardian.com/world/201...

Bilderberg is devoting a whole session to AI this year – and has invited military theorist Michael C Horowitz, who has written extensively on its likely impact on the future of war.

Horowitz sees AI as “the ultimate enabler”. In an article published just a few weeks ago in the Texas National Security Review, he quotes Putin’s remark from 2017: “Artificial intelligence is the future, not only for Russia, but for all humankind. Whoever becomes the leader in this sphere will become the ruler of the world.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/201...

Embracing the Promises and Realities of AI https://www.allegisgroup.com/en-gb/in...

Do We Need an Artificial Intelligence Code of Ethics? https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/do-we-...

This video is a few years old but mentions a few intriguing things..I never knew the AI machine Watson won Jeopardy...That's amazing...and I didn't know AI correctly predicted Trump would win the election...

Watch "Artificial Intelligence - Mission Critical - The Rabbit Hole" on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7-3r...

Iain wrote: "Have you seen the documentary: "Do You Trust Your Computer?"

I was taken aback with the "robot starfish" example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEP02s..."

Man that robot is almost like watching a species evolve before your eyes...

Iain wrote: "Mate, if you haven't seen the Animatrix(based on The Matrix movie), I recommend checking it out.

Granted, it's a cartoon, but there's some interesting angles as to how The Matrix originated and s..."

Heard of it, but never wathced.

These AI machines better not have self preservation built in!

James wrote: "This video is a few years old but mentions a few intriguing things..I never knew the AI machine Watson won Jeopardy...That's amazing...and I didn't know AI correctly predicted Trump would win the e..."
Great info. on the perils of AI.

Elon Musk, DeepMind founders, and others sign pledge to not develop lethal AI weapon systems https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/18/17...

The open three paragraphs say it all:

"Tech leaders, including Elon Musk and the three co-founders of Google’s AI subsidiary DeepMind, have signed a pledge promising to not develop “lethal autonomous weapons.”

"It’s the latest move from an unofficial and global coalition of researchers and executives that’s opposed to the propagation of such technology. The pledge warns that weapon systems that use AI to “[select] and [engage] targets without human intervention” pose moral and pragmatic threats. Morally, the signatories argue, the decision to take a human life “should never be delegated to a machine.” On the pragmatic front, they say that the spread of such weaponry would be “dangerously destabilizing for every country and individual.”

"The pledge was published today at the 2018 International Joint Conference on Artificial Intelligence (IJCAI) in Stockholm, and it was organized by the Future of Life Institute, a research institute that aims to “mitigate existential risk” to humanity. The institute has previously helped issue letters from some of the same individuals, calling on the United Nations to consider new regulations for what are known as lethal autonomous weapons, or LAWS. This, however, is the first time those involved have pledged individually to not develop such technology."

THE COMING AI WARS https://gizadeathstar.com/2018/07/the...