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Have a look at this
https://singularityhub.com/2019/08/21...

The Artificial Intelligence Conspiracy: How the World's Elites Plan to Replace Everybody Else with Intelligent Machines

Damn... AI can now invent things.

Time to get into John Connor mode!

I sense that second article is underestimating the complexity of what's involved in human creativity... But if I'm wrong, then...um...we are expendible and...um...we better learn to work well with robots!

Maybe the last heavyweight world title fight was a sign of things to come... We had a very fat, supposedly lazy Mexican fighter in Ruiz VS a supposedly perfect almost robot-like Brit in AJ... And the robot malfunctioned in spectacular fashion and nobody saw it coming! Sometimes predictions are way off and certain things like will power and ingenuity get underestimated...

For those who believe humans aren't "over the hill" just yet, come over here and have a laugh at DUMB ROBOTS...C'mon humans, fight the robots (and give the Iainbot something to think about!!!!):

Artificial Stupidity (AS) https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...

Ruiz IS ready...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing...

Now for the flip side...

This robot can sure take a beating!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn-H0...

Iain wrote: "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZzeH...

Potential number one single? Anyone in the music industry watching?..."

I say you put that in the wrong thread...Should be in the dumb robot thread!

Is AI dangerous? Why our fears of killer computers or sentient 'Westworld' robots are overblown https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion...
Computer programs are still just tools. And like any tool, they can be helpful or dangerous, depending on how you wield them.

Robots are always taking over, at least in pop culture. In the 1984 film "Terminator," the artificial intelligence (AI) weapons system Skynet attains sentience and launches a nuclear apocalypse designed to wipe out humanity. In HBO's television series "Westworld," robots attain sentience and start murdering people. Tesla founder Elon Musk has been saying for years that we need to take the threat of robot apocalypse seriously. "If one company or small group of people manages to develop god-like super-intelligence, they could take over the world," Musk said in the 2018 documentary "Do You Trust This Computer?" "We have five years. I think digital super-intelligence will happen in my lifetime, 100 percent," he warned.

Malevolent robots are fun monsters, like vampires or aliens. But, like vampires and aliens, they're not real, according to "The AI Delusion," a new book by Pomona College Economics professor Gary Smith. According to Smith, computers aren't smart enough to threaten us — and won’t be for the foreseeable future. But if we think computers are smart, we may end up harming ourselves not in the far future, but right now.

Abu Dhabi launches world's first university of artificial intelligence https://www.arabianbusiness.com/educa...
Mohamed bin Zayed University of Artificial Intelligence will welcome first students in September 2020

'Terminator' at 35: How AI and the militarization of tech has evolved https://www.nbcnews.com/science/scien...
Scientists scoff at the idea that AI poses an existential threat, but military applications of the technology pose concern.

Pentagon's draft AI ethics guidelines fight bias and rogue machines https://www.engadget.com/2019/11/02/p...
But how well will the Defense Department implement these principles?

Given historical injustices (on all sides), it might be hard to see China and Russia trusting the US or the West enough to join any global initiative on AI... Maybe they'll just decide to do whatever they wanna do? uh oh!

OpenAI has published the text-generating AI it said was too dangerous to share
https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/7/20...
The lab says it’s seen ‘no strong evidence of misuse so far’

'Malicious' predictive text bot released after AI code of ethics published https://www.9news.com.au/technology/a...

Iain wrote: "The Chinese suicides prevented by AI from afar"

Imagine if AI starts causing suicides tho...by replacing peoples jobs or getting us disconnected from regular human interactions...

Why Fears Of An AI Job-Killing Apocalypse Are Overstated https://www.forbes.com/sites/douglasm...

While no one can foresee exactly how this will play out, a mountain of evidence suggests that just like during past technological leaps, the fears — though realistic — can be managed. The lesson of history — throughout the centuries and in modern times — is that scary stories about job-stealing machines reliably lead our human minds astray, focusing us on the short-term pain caused by new technologies while minimizing the even greater long-term benefits.

Economists David Autor and Anna Salomons see one source of this cognitive error. The negative effects of new technology tend to be easy to spot — and emotionally resonant. When a machine replaces a human, a real person loses their job, often at significant cost to themselves, their family and their community. At the same time, the economists note, “the indirect effects of technological progress … are likely more challenging to observe and quantify, and hence may receive short shrift in economic analysis and in the wider public debate.”

Artificial Intelligence Will Obliterate These Jobs By 2030 https://fortune.com/2019/11/19/artifi...

Iain wrote: "Perception won't be reality, once AI can manipulate what we see

https://thehill.com/opinion/cybersecu..."

This is happening fast now and that article is quite mind blowing.

Another thing to consider is it's not just AI operating in isolation...there is a plethora of new tech inventions converging with AI...stuff that's equally revolutionary.

Is Machine Learning Really AI? https://www.forbes.com/sites/cognitiv...

One of the downsides to the recent revival and popularity of Artificial Intelligence (AI) is that we see a lot of vendors, professional services firms, and end users jumping on the AI bandwagon labeling their technologies, products, service offerings, and projects as AI products, projects, or offerings without necessarily being the case. On the other hand, there isn’t a well-accepted delineation between what is definitely AI and what is definitely not AI. This is because there isn’t a well-accepted and standard definition of what is artificial intelligence. Indeed, there isn’t a standard definition of intelligence, period.

Top Artificial Intelligence (AI) Predictions For 2020 From IDC and Forrester https://www.forbes.com/sites/gilpress...

Could Artificial Intelligence Save Us From Itself?
https://fortune.com/2019/11/26/ai-is-...
By Jeremy Kahn
November 26, 2019

Could the problems caused by A.I. be solved by artificial intelligence itself?

I put that question to IBM’s Francesca Rossi, who leads Big Blue’s efforts on the ethics of artificial intelligence, and Antoine Bordes, a director of Facebook’s A.I. Research lab, at Fortune's Global Forum in Paris last week.

Yes—at least in some circumstances, both researchers said.

Bordes’s group, for example, is creating a benchmark test that can be used to train a machine learning algorithm to automatically detect deepfakes. And Rossi said that, in some cases, A.I. could be used to highlight potential bias in models created by other artificial intelligence algorithms.

While technology could produce useful tools for detecting—and even correcting—problems with A.I. software, both scientists emphasized people should not be lulled into complacency about the need for critical human judgment.

“Addressing this issue is really a process,” Rossi told me. “When you deliver an A.I. system, you cannot just think about these issues at the time the product is ready to be deployed. Every design choice ... can bring unconscious bias.”

A million good reasons to implement this.

Australian ECEC employers will soon be able to use AI tech to beat workplace bullying

https://thesector.com.au/2019/11/29/a...

Iain wrote: "A million good reasons to implement this.

Australian ECEC employers will soon be able to use AI tech to beat workplace bullying

https://thesector.com.au/2019/11/29/a...-..."

Be really good if they extend it cross-border and to "social media" where it can carry on and fester. Ruining lives and families.

Well done Australia.

Bank ABC's AI-powered digital employee ‘Fatema’ is the world's first Digital DNA (TM) Human https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYhs_...

Manama – Bahrain: Bank ABC and Soul Machines, a New Zealand based deep science & technology company, announce that “Fatema,” a fully autonomous, AI-driven Digital Human, will be an integral part of the Bank’s customer experience.

Devil’s in the details in Historic AI debate https://www.zdnet.com/article/devils-...
An historic debate between two of the artificial intelligence illuminati was mostly simpatico on the big questions -- creating hybrid systems of AI, finding the right "priors" for knowledge -- but it was also punctuated by sharp differences on some of the details.

Predictions For Artificial Intelligence in 2020 http://links.info.fortune.com/e/evib?...

AI is genuine stupidity . We need IA = Intelligence Amplification of humans not AI. AI is just complex programs using humongous databases to ASSume that correlation is causation. That is the kind of bad thinking that causes black swans and chaos.

World's First 'Living Machine' Created Using Frog Cells and Artificial Intelligence
https://www.livescience.com/frogbots-...

Scientists used computer algorithms to "evolve" an organism that's made of 100% frog DNA — but it isn't a frog.

Wmba wrote: "AI is genuine stupidity . We need IA = Intelligence Amplification of humans not AI. AI is just complex programs using humongous databases to ASSume that correlation is causation. That is the kind o..."

That's like saying we don't need fire because we could burn ourselves. At this stage AI is the thing, that gets you to the thing . . . . A tool. Nothing more."

But what James has just posted, i.e. the 'Living Machine', is the Black Swan in waiting . . . .

I'm a teenager and I'm LDS, so I don't like looking at inappropriate pictures, and reading inappropriate books. I'm in the book club in my school, and we were reading a really good book, and I hated it so much and I never hate books.

Like the last commentator is definitely the downside of AI. It aids and abets nonsense, trolls bots etc.

The real upside is the medical, engineering and scientific discovery and potential that AI brings. . . .

Artificial Intelligence (AI) Patents - Will the Patent Office Change the Rules?

https://www.lexology.com/library/deta...

Iain wrote: "Artificial Intelligence (AI) Patents - Will the Patent Office Change the Rules?

https://www.lexology.com/library/deta..."

Now here's an interesting concept, can AI protect your ideas? Like say some rat pawned off your ideas and made a bit on the side, could AI help?

'It's a war between technology and a donkey' – how AI is shaking up Hollywood https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020...

The film business used to run on hunches. Now, data analytics is far more effective than humans at predicting hits and eliminating flops. Is this a brave new world – or the death knell of creativity?

If Sunspring is anything to go by, artificial intelligence in film-making has some way to go. This short film, made as an entry to Sci-Fi London’s 48-hour film-making competition in 2016, was written entirely by an AI.

Data Sheet: The A.I. hype is real
http://links.info.fortune.com/e/evib?...
Some new technologies slip into our lives quietly. You may not even know how often you’ve interacted with or been analyzed by the machine learning-driven apps Aric mentioned in yesterday’s Data Sheet. Some technologies, on the other hand, buzz noisily into our awareness. You will almost certainly hear when a drone zips past you.

But in terms of actually making an impact in the business world, they’re also still a long way behind technologies like A.I. or 5G.

A.I. is unstoppable. And A.I. is struggling. http://links.info.fortune.com/e/evib?...

Joe Rogan Experience #1422 - Lex Fridman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIcQw...
Lex Fridman is a research scientist at MIT working on human-centered artificial intelligence and autonomous vehicles. Check out is podcast "Artificial Intelligence Podcast" available on Apple Podcast & YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSHZ...

ARCHITECTING THE BEAST SYSTEM: AI Control of Food Supply https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLMpJ...

Forces are working to take total control of every drop of oil extracted from the ground, every fish caught from the sea, and every last bean harvested. It requires an immense technical infrastructure comprising 5G, blockchain, and Artificial Intelligence. This infrastructure has been built and is now being deployed, and we must understand that it is -- in the very words of the Department of Defense -- an AI weapons system. And that system is going live NOW.

What if much about 2020 has been a real world HAL-9000 moment from Kubrick's 2001, where AI has taken over and gone rogue from humanity?

Is the Internet Conscious? If It Were, How Would We Know? https://www.wired.com/story/is-the-in...

Welcome to my nightmare! (apologies to Alice Cooper). Author and philosopher, Yuval Noah Harari envisions a future which is dominated by the rule of technology over all things to the extent that humanity, as we currently know it will not only be subservient but also a redundant organism. He devastatingly concludes that ‘humanity will turn out to be just a ripple within the cosmic data flow’. He also argues that as a species we are essentially deluded in believing we act freely according to our conscience beliefs and moral standards. Harari even envisions a world ‘cosmic data–processing system that would be like God’ – an all–knowing internet of all things. A new religion based on the worship of data!

‘Traditional religions assured you that your every word and action was part of some great cosmic plan, and that God watched you every minute and cared about all your thoughts and feelings. Data religion now says that your every word and action is part of the great dataflow, that the algorithms are constantly watching you and that they care about everything you do and feel.’

Harari openly suggests that humanity really is at a tipping point with regards to its ability to compete with the rise of artificial intelligence. Either we use it to upgrade ourselves or we become redundant and obsolete. Intelligence – either organic or artificial – is the driving mechanism for progress and dominance and is increasingly ‘decoupling from consciousness’.

Tony wrote: "Welcome to my nightmare! (apologies to Alice Cooper). Author and philosopher, Yuval Noah Harari envisions a future which is dominated by the rule of technology over all things to the extent that hu..."

In a nutshell, the free will vs determinism debate has never been challenging or difficult, and everything has been known already. At the very least, Yuval Noah Harari takes the academia serious and challenges me to respond seriously once again, and start writing more.

He's basically just copying my previous ideas about optimal living, and promotes the idea of consuming good art. It's sad he has the reputation of an "intelligent" fellow when he really has nothing to offer intellectually.

I think the real problem is all aspects of "food." If people can't eat, they scramble for ideas and lose focus from low blood sugar and motion sickness. It sounds more like he was inspired by a philosophical idea, and for a lack of food for thought he took the opportunity to write a book about things everyone apparently thinks about every day.

I don't like him or his ideas. Actually, he's okay, but what the thing is is that success is only met in this society when someone takes advantage of resources.

I think, on the whole, the print and book industry will go out of business and be a major reason for logging and tree decline, particularly in the rainforest. Water is also a problem because most of the planet's water is salt water, which isn't drinkable unless filtered.

It's all about timing, and Yuval just tried to talk about semi-interesting information when the time seemed right. Of course, since the planet is on a decline, apocalypse could be here already before AI even really has the chance to overtake humanity in the race for existence (and/or "dominance").

Food is important for sapiens and the reptile brain, as well as the primitive cortex first seen in cavemen, so they can sometimes forget there's more to life than eating. AI has the advantage of not needing to eat, so to speak, but parallels exist between power consumption in machines and man (and woman).

It should be mentioned that being unique, in conjunction with capitalism, was always one of America's selling points. These days, there's just a new "STEM" kind of standard, where every citizen should be educated in the sciences, including computer programming. It's the only way to build a better nation. Comedy and being the funny guy just doesn't cut it.

Tony wrote: "Welcome to my nightmare! (apologies to Alice Cooper). Author and philosopher, Yuval Noah Harari envisions a future which is dominated by the rule of technology over all things to the extent that hu..."

Interesting concept, Tony. Data religion. So AI is the new God of the technocrats, I guess.

CAN POLICE BRUTALITY BE REFORMED USING ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE? https://www.analyticsinsight.net/can-...