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ANALYZING COVID CONTROLS > Are the lockdowns, mandates and quarantines about something more than just the virus?

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message 901: by Scott (new)

Scott Beau wrote: "Good, sensible move from Ron DeSantis.

Have a listen to this brief speech from yesterday. It's spot on and very funny too. Perhaps our Parliament is still alive and kicking?"


That is great! I wish we had politicians like that in the U.S.!


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Debby Kean | 165 comments Anni, cool! I was talked by my cousin in Australia into doing an Ancestry DNA test, I too have Viking blood!


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Debby Kean | 165 comments Beau Bruce, thank you, my son and I have partly made up (at the cost of my not saying what I think. But given our history, his having spent his formative years with a step-mother etc, it's necessary).


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Debby Kean | 165 comments James Morcan, I had an odd encounter on Twitter last night, a boy who looked 17 was wearing a mask in his profile pic. I asked a mean question as to whether he was having a bad bout of acne. He responded absolutely at face value, & said, no, he was avoiding Covid. So I said that if he is 17, he wouldn't even notice if he got it, & would recover well, also that a mask won't stop him getting it. Again, he thanked me for my advice which I chose to take at face value. If he really is 17, chances are he is doing what all his classmates do, today's teens (unlike the teens of the late 60s) are very conformist or Covformist as I call it


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Anni (annih) | 398 comments Debby wrote: "Anni, cool! I was talked by my cousin in Australia into doing an Ancestry DNA test, I too have Viking blood!"

We might even be distant cousins! I’ve got one in Denmark, apparently.


message 906: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Anni wrote: "Debby wrote: "Anni, cool! I was talked by my cousin in Australia into doing an Ancestry DNA test, I too have Viking blood!"

We might even be distant cousins! I’ve got one in Denmark, apparently."


Aha! So we have pillagers and plunderers in our ranks...


message 907: by Anni (new)

Anni (annih) | 398 comments Lance wrote: "Anni wrote: "Debby wrote: "Anni, cool! I was talked by my cousin in Australia into doing an Ancestry DNA test, I too have Viking blood!"

We might even be distant cousins! I’ve got one in Denmark, ..."


Ha ha! I reckon it was my Yorkshire ancestors’ villages that were pillaged and plundered, not to mention the other thing done to their womenfolk!


message 908: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Anni wrote: "Lance wrote: "Anni wrote: "Debby wrote: "Anni, cool! I was talked by my cousin in Australia into doing an Ancestry DNA test, I too have Viking blood!"

We might even be distant cousins! I’ve got on..."


I'm sure the womenfolk were simply wooed...Viking style!


message 909: by Anni (new)

Anni (annih) | 398 comments Lance wrote: "Anni wrote: "Lance wrote: "Anni wrote: "Debby wrote: "Anni, cool! I was talked by my cousin in Australia into doing an Ancestry DNA test, I too have Viking blood!"

We might even be distant cousins..."


🤞😊


message 910: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments The “COVID economy”: The Plan https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/...

"In 1996, Hillary Rodham Clinton’s book, It Takes a Village, appeared. In it, she argued that a whole community must solve the problem of raising a child. Of course, this was pretentious nonsense. It runs parallel to the idea that no entrepreneur can prosper without infra-structure that is built with public money, and therefore the entrepreneur and his output should be the property of the State." - Maybe this is some of what we are dealing with now...


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James Morcan | 11378 comments BOMBSHELL: Former Pfizer executive says covid-19 “pandemic is over,” so-called “second wave” based on fraudulent testing\

https://science.news/2020-09-30-forme...


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Alexis Harding | 72 comments Who knows for certain? We'll only be able to tell if we are still alive.


message 913: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments James wrote: "BOMBSHELL: Former Pfizer executive says covid-19 “pandemic is over,” so-called “second wave” based on fraudulent testing\

https://science.news/2020-09-30-forme......"


Politicians and others do seem intent on talking about Covid as "the new normal" (as if it's here to stay) so nothing would surprise me.


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Debby Kean | 165 comments Anni, that would be great! In NZ, we have only a small family, I am always on the lookout for cousins..


message 915: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Lance wrote: "JPoliticians and others do seem intent on talking about Covid as "the new normal" (as if it's here to stay) so nothing would surprise me...."

yeah, all the infrastructure seems to be in place for a long-term venture...


message 916: by Anni (new)

Anni (annih) | 398 comments Debby wrote: "Anni, that would be great! In NZ, we have only a small family, I am always on the lookout for cousins.."

👍🏻😊


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Anni (annih) | 398 comments AT LAST!
See link below for some great news:

https://youtu.be/kr04gHbP5MQ


message 918: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments How George W Bush crafted a social distancing plan https://uk.news.yahoo.com/george-w-bu...

"It was the unlikely duo of the former US President, George W Bush, and his deputy Dick Cheney who, in 2003, ordered that a social distancing plan be researched, devised and tested in order to protect America from a new pandemic pathogen, man made or naturally occurring.

They placed the full might of the Department for Homeland Security behind it and made sure it was in place and ready to be deployed before they left office in January 2009."


message 919: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments New York Sets New Lockdown Restrictions Where Coronavirus Has Resurged https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york...
Curbs will affect parts of New York City and two nearby counties, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said


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I read your link to the microchip story on the 'overreaction' thread, James, and thought it was really thought provoking.

I've taken a short break from corona discussion to avoid overdosing on it but have decided to return to this thread lol. We can't help ourselves, can we?

Much as I try to find a plausible mainstream explanation to all this, I still can't. The underground is supplying the only logical reasoning. I now think that many of you are right; this is all about asserting control.

The reason control is needed is because of the global economic situation. Levels of household, personal and government debt (even pre-corona) showed that the response to the last financial crisis simply put a plaster over the system's problems.

The powers that be know what's coming and they need to act fast. Sacrificing the economy to keep people 'safe' is a convenient excuse to explain the inevitable unraveling of the system and the economic collapse that will follow.

It's not rocket science to understand what the consequences of complete economic failure will be and so control of the masses is deemed vital.

There are some very good people out there who are genuinely frightened of the virus and I respect them. However, I believe that the mainstream attitude to it is like worrying about a patch of damp in your bathroom when the roof is about to fall in.

By the way, I was in two minds about showing you this yesterday because it is very sad and upsetting. I have decided to post it in the hope that people who don't share our views will begin to question the human consequences of the restrictions they crave. This is nothing to what's coming, it's just part of what's happening now:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...


AndrewRealDumbanik Beau wrote: "I read your link to the microchip story on the 'overreaction' thread, James, and thought it was really thought provoking.

I've taken a short break from corona discussion to avoid overdosing on it ..."


Crown of thorns Boau.


message 922: by Anni (last edited Oct 07, 2020 08:20AM) (new)

Anni (annih) | 398 comments Beau wrote: "I read your link to the microchip story on the 'overreaction' thread, James, and thought it was really thought provoking.

I've taken a short break from corona discussion to avoid overdosing on it ..."


That video clip is so sad - and it’s appalling that matters have been allowed to escalate to this stage.
One good outcome of all this control-freakery is the ‘red pilling’ of the citizens who can now see what’s going on. I admit that I was never fully aware of how enslaved we are, even in a Western so-called democracy, like Britain.
The wealthy elites have always ruled the world, as the slave masters/land owners. People think they are free, but the truth is that if you do not own land or the means of production, and have to sell your labour to survive, you are a slave. You may be free to choose your own form of enslavement and boss/ruler, but you are still enslaved.
And now our rulers have decided there are too many of us for the world’s resources, so we need to be culled. In the past, the method for de-population and genicide was war, but now mandatory vaccination will do the job for the eugenicists like Bill Gates.


message 923: by Scott (new)

Scott Rule-abiding robots with no minds of their own...and no hearts either...they are dead inside.


message 924: by Tanya (new)

Tanya Frew (tqmarsh) | 11 comments I totally agree with some of these points.

https://utmostlove.webador.co.uk


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The Daily Mail is Britain's biggest selling newspaper. It's come in for some stick over the years (and rightly so) but today's front page headline warms the cockles:

https://twitter.com/ClarkeMicah/statu...

Daily Mail, all is forgiven. And, as Peter says, 'the consensus is over'.

I'm not on social media but if any of you are, I recommend following Peter Hitchens. He is the only one of our mainstream journalists who has opposed all of the restrictions since day one.

Peter, you are a ******* legend!


message 927: by Anni (last edited Oct 08, 2020 04:47AM) (new)

Anni (annih) | 398 comments Beau wrote: "The Daily Mail is Britain's biggest selling newspaper. It's come in for some stick over the years (and rightly so) but today's front page headline warms the cockles:

https://twitter.com/ClarkeMica..."


Yes, I follow Peter Hitchens on YouTube. I just wish his brother Christopher was still alive too. I don’t do Twitter or Facebook, though. BTW the link you gave says that twitter account has been suspended !


message 928: by Roth (new)

Roth | 31 comments I don't have TV or Internet at home so I tune in to Covid Public Radio--NPR -- on my morning commute just to here the latest...that is, for as long as I can stomach it. This morning they were bashing all the "Q-anon" conspiracy theorists in the UK wreaking havoc and causing "covid confusion." I did not even know what Q-anon until I looked it up.


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Anni wrote: "Beau wrote: "The Daily Mail is Britain's biggest selling newspaper. It's come in for some stick over the years (and rightly so) but today's front page headline warms the cockles:

https://twitter.c..."


Hi, Anni. Yes, Christopher Hitchens was a very clever man. It was a great shame he died so young.

Good for you re twitter and Facebook - there's not many of us around.

The link's still working fine my end. If it's not working for anyone and you're interested, just stick 'Peter Hitchens Twitter' in a google search and you'll find it. A friend alerted me to this and I was encouraged to see a wide range of journalists, celebrities and others posting similar views underneath.

By the way, in my haste to post, I forgot to comment on yesterday's posts on here. Yours was very powerful, Anni.

Scott, I nearly exploded when I saw the funeral clip on TV but then reminded myself of 2 important things:
1. The brothers showed great dignity and possibly prevented further upset for their mum.
2. This clip wouldn't have been broadcast over here a couple of months ago.

The more governments tighten their restrictions, the worse it's going to be for them when people finally snap.


message 930: by [deleted user] (last edited Oct 08, 2020 06:11AM) (new)

Roth wrote: "I don't have TV or Internet at home so I tune in to Covid Public Radio--NPR -- on my morning commute just to here the latest...that is, for as long as I can stomach it. This morning they were bashi..."

They can call British lockdown sceptics what they like, Roth - we're just laughing at 'news' channels like that. By the way, I don't think I'll bother looking it up.


message 931: by Scott (new)

Scott I have started following P. Hitchens on the Fakebook. His "Democracy Muzzled" article is great.


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Anni (annih) | 398 comments Scott wrote: "I have started following P. Hitchens on the Fakebook. His "Democracy Muzzled" article is great."

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 I agree


message 933: by Scott (new)

Scott I too wish Chris was still alive. I discovered him shortly before he was gone. Read one of his books so far. If there was anyone we needed now it's him.


RickyGervaissRelation Scott wrote: "I too wish Chris was still alive. I discovered him shortly before he was gone. Read one of his books so far. If there was anyone we needed now it's him."

Got it to a tee.


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James Morcan | 11378 comments 'Irreparable damage': WHO's coronavirus lockdown U-turn https://au.news.yahoo.com/who-coronav...

The World Health Organisation’s leading specialist on Covid-19 has warned against using lockdowns as a primary means of controlling the virus, stating it could have a dramatic impact on poverty.

WHO Director General Dr David Nabarro told world leaders the organisation doesn’t advocate lockdown, after previously cautioning that countries should be careful how quickly they reopen after lockdown during the first wave of coronavirus in March.

“We in the World Health Organisation do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus,” Dr Nabarro told The Spectator.


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Anni (annih) | 398 comments It’s all gone rather quiet here !! ???

This is the best-ever speech about the Covid scam - PLEASE COPY link and SHARE as the piece keeps getting removed from social media.

https://youtu.be/cLSNey6gbQg


message 938: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments So why did the IMF offer hundreds of millions to nation's leaders to lock down their nations? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEpIr...

Belarusian President Lukashenko Says IMF Offered A Billion USD Bribe to Impose Covid-19 Lockdown https://www.newsbreak.com/news/205711...

Belarusian President: IMF & World Bank Tried To Bribe Me For ‘Lockdown’ https://principia-scientific.com/bela...


message 939: by GR (new)

GR Oliver | 24 comments In my opinion, Covid-19 was allowed to flourish in the US by DT as part of emptying the SWAMP. He took advantage of it. This is why he didn't do anything about it or encourage precautions to prevent it. The SWAMP is the superfluous that is the drain on the economy. That includes me. I am retired and drawing a government pension and SSA each month. And all those who are taking unwarranted money from government sources. And that is: welfare, social security, medicare, unemployed, and any other government payments to citizens and none citizens.


message 940: by Debby (new)

Debby Kean | 165 comments GR Oliver, that may may well be true.


message 941: by Anni (new)

Anni (annih) | 398 comments GR wrote: "In my opinion, Covid-19 was allowed to flourish in the US by DT as part of emptying the SWAMP. He took advantage of it. This is why he didn't do anything about it or encourage precautions to preven..."

Sorry, you are incorrect about the use of this term ‘drain the swamp’ - it refers to the swamp of bureaucracy in Washington.
Trump used the metaphor to refer to his plans to fix the corruption in the federal government and the rigged system of lobbying.


message 942: by EN (last edited Oct 27, 2020 04:30AM) (new)

EN Heim (enheim) | 12 comments That is so true, but I also feel it has a hidden meaning behind the swamp. America is in debt up to its eyebrows, past its nose, and downing from its inefficient way of doing things. He wants to end corruption, that is true, but he is also bringing in his own, along with more inefficient ways of doing business. In the last 50 years, the US has gone from worse to "worser" (to coin a word). I don't think Trump can do anything about it, I don't think anybody can. It's an end of the great American era.


message 943: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Going back to the Influenza reclassification theory...

CDC admits they ‘suspend data collection for 2020-21 Flu season’ https://www.nexusnewsfeed.com/article...


message 944: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Expect a lot more of this research to appear around the world - Japan is likely to just be the first country to complete studies...

Suicide spike in Japan linked to coronavirus pandemic https://science.news/2020-10-26-suici...


message 945: by Colombo(.)(.) (new)

Colombo(.)(.) James wrote: "Expect a lot more of this research to appear around the world - Japan is likely to just be the first country to complete studies...

Suicide spike in Japan linked to coronavirus pandemic https://sc..."


Anything on the impact of kids being separated from parents as a consequence on both the parents and the children?


message 946: by Colombo(.)(.) (new)

Colombo(.)(.) Colombo_ wrote: "James wrote: "Expect a lot more of this research to appear around the world - Japan is likely to just be the first country to complete studies...

Suicide spike in Japan linked to coronavirus pande..."


Separate from this or maybe not, but anything on the more 'nurse ratchet' types in psychology departments taking advantage of the situation?


message 947: by [deleted user] (new)

Colombo(.)(.) wrote: "Colombo_ wrote: "James wrote: "Expect a lot more of this research to appear around the world - Japan is likely to just be the first country to complete studies...

Suicide spike in Japan linked to ..."


I'd be interested in hearing thoughts on this as well and other 'hidden aspects' where there could be a rise in stats relating to fraud, copyright theft, industrial espionage, workplace bullying, and any other related phenomena taking advantage . . .

Maybe some of the resident doctors in here can chime in on that aspect?


message 948: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments This is a must watch 13 minute video by a solid researcher who is also worth subscribing to also. I think this video reveals exactly what the elite think tanks are projecting for the post-election winter in America... It's interesting how the global elites seem to foreshadow in advance everything they do...

The Darkest Winter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_86ec...


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message 949: by Anni (last edited Oct 30, 2020 02:13AM) (new)

Anni (annih) | 398 comments It’s all part of the psychological demoralising of the populace to make them panic and obey.
Have you all read ‘Behold a Pale Horse’ by William Cooper?
... tells you all you need to know.
(it’s in your list of recommended books)


message 950: by James, Group Founder (last edited Oct 30, 2020 05:32AM) (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Starting to think we are dealing with a much greater evil than assumed, Anni... Uh Oh!


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