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message 1: by James, Group Founder (last edited Aug 05, 2020 04:23AM) (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Is the official story that it was caused by a bunch of fireworks and explosives they misplaced for several years that accidentally went off, true?

Or was this another false flag attack disguised as an unfortunate accident?

Consider...

President Trump on whether #LebanonExplosion was an attack and not an accident: "I met with some of our great generals and they just seemed to feel that it was. This was not some kind of a manufacturing explosion type of event...they seem to think it was an attack." https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1290...


message 2: by James, Group Founder (last edited Aug 05, 2020 04:36AM) (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Did you guys spot the black object that flew in just before the final explosion? Could that be a missile or projectile as this popular US war veterans' website is claiming? (If you re-watch 9/11 footage of the Twin Towers, there appear to be similar black projectiles in the footage just before the buildings collapse)

Israel Hits Beirut with Nuclear Missile, Trump and Lebanese Govt. Confirm (continually updating) https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/08...
Trump confirms this was a bombing, not an accident and is immediately scourged by pro-Israel press...starting with the Daily Beast


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James Morcan | 11378 comments Was Beirut explosion a missile attack or a dew weapon? black object approaching silos then explodes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHiNd...

p.s. a "dew weapon" is a "directed energy weapon"


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James Morcan | 11378 comments Was The Beirut Blast A Directed Energy Weapon? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nWIq...


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James Morcan | 11378 comments Gordon Duff, the editor of popular US war veterans site Veterans Today and a Marine combat veteran, says they have done video analysis of the so-called birds and one image at least is revealed to be a black projectile/missile - the birds were the slow flying ones seen earlier...The super fast one seen around the 5 minute mark (in slow motion) on this video here is travelling about 100 times to fast for any bird https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHiNd...

this article here is published by Duff. If you look at the comment section below this article ( https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/08... ), you see Duff confirms the following:


Gordon Duff, Senior Editor August 4, 2020 at 9:40 pm
Photo analysis already done and the photo is real and this is a missile. We published the data.


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James Morcan | 11378 comments How are Trump's claims "unsubstantiated" when he clearly said he spoke to the top generals in the US Military and asked their opinion? (and they told him it was an "attack" not an accident)

Alarm at Trump's unsubstantiated claim that Beirut blast was an 'attack https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...


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Ian Miller | 1422 comments From the coverage I have seen, the first stage was a simple fire, then after that had been going for long enough to generate a good smoke column and get a lot of spectators watching, boom, the NH4NO3 went off. The literal cause of the explosion was the fire, but what caused the fire is another question. As for storing a little under 3000 t of NH4NO3 in a warehouse in the central business district, stupidity.


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Debby Kean | 165 comments I tend to think stupidity is more likely


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Ian Miller | 1422 comments Apparently there was a Russian ship with the fertilizer on it, for some reason it was confiscated, and would be returned for a fee. The Russians simply sailed off, and the fertilizer was simply left there. That is the latest I have seem, although I must confess with the prevalence of fake news, I guarantee nothing :-)


message 10: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Note that these faked videos can be done by people with an agenda (e.g. blame Israel or the USA, or simply to get YouTube hits).
BUT, also note that the likes of the CIA and NSA are on record as releasing such disinformation videos and documents over decades to purposefully smear conspiracy researchers...And then once that has been released, then debunked, then you can put up follow-up videos says "Beware of ALL conspiracy theories"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bRy0...


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James Morcan | 11378 comments WASHINGTON D. C.
Trump: Beirut explosion looks like "a bomb of some kind" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XX-3...


message 12: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1422 comments The images of the explosion I have seen are of such erratic quality that I believe them. They are exactly what you would expect from something like a cell-phone recording, and I don't see the point of faking them. Fakers would also need to have a sophisticated knowledge of the behaviour of nitrogen oxides.

As for Trump, talk bout "profound".


message 13: by James, Group Founder (last edited Aug 07, 2020 03:54PM) (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Ian, I was talking about the exact opposite of what you are assuming - i.e. if you watched what I posted in those links above, you will see some YouTubers got caught faking videos by altering the footage (and were successfully debunked). None of that relates to any of the videos you would have seen in mainstream media (I assume that's all you watched given your comments and if so you would not have seen any of the fake footage which were widely shared on social media)...

As for Trump, he's the US President (last time I checked that meant someone very "connected" to high-level advisors) and said he spoke to several US Generals (usually good at assessing military events and explosives, right?) who Trump says all said their opinion was the explosion looks like a clear bomb attack not an accident: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OulcI...

Now if classified weapon tech was used (which of course would not be anything any mainstream scientist or explosive expert could remotely assess, given they are not privy to classified science), then those US Generals would be able to notice that e.g. Directed Energy Weapons (DEWs) and the like... And if such tech was used, you would also need a "cover story" so nobody catches on and which the mainstream media can present as fact...

Again tho, none of that is to say this is definitely what happened. We do not know yet, just as 9/11 remains such a mystery almost 2 decades later...


message 14: by James, Group Founder (last edited Aug 07, 2020 04:30PM) (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments I think this article makes an important point and raises historical parallels about how the wrong side is sometimes blamed. And also how possible Israeli (or US) involvement in this latest explosion certainly cannot be ruled out...


Devastating Beirut Explosion: An Accident or Something More Sinister? https://www.globalresearch.ca/devasta...

While no obvious Israeli fingerprints are on what happened, Tuesday’s blast was reminiscent on February 14, 2005.

At the time, a powerful car bomb blast killed former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri and 20 others, scores injured.

The blast left a 30-foot-wide/six-foot-deep crater. Syria, then Hezbollah, were falsely blamed for what happened, four Hezbollah members wrongfully indicted by a Special Tribunal for Lebanon (STL) in the Netherlands.

Israel was responsible for what happened, targeted killings one of its specialties.

At the time, Hezbollah-intercepted Israeli aerial surveillance footage and audio evidence showed Hariri’s route on the day of his assassination.

Criminal law expert Hasan Jouni called its evidence compelling.

North Lebanon Bar Association head Antoine Airout said “revelations by Hezbollah (were) very serious and objective.”

Syria and Hezbollah had nothing to gain from what happened. Israel clearly benefitted, including by false accusations against its enemies.

At the time, Middle East journalist Patrick Seale said “(i)f Syria (or Hezbollah) killed (Hariri), it must be judged an act of political suicide…hand(ing) (their) enemies a weapon with which to deliver (a destabilizing) blow.”

Israel’s fingerprints were all over what happened, Hezbollah falsely blamed.

While vast destruction and damage in Beirut on Tuesday most likely was caused by negligence, possible Israeli (or US) involvement can’t be ruled out.


message 15: by Lance, Group Founder (last edited Aug 07, 2020 04:55PM) (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments James wrote: "Ian, I was talking about the exact opposite of what you are assuming - i.e. if you watched what I posted in those links above, you will see some YouTubers got caught faking videos by altering the f..."

"said he spoke to several US Generals"... Keep in mind Trump is a proven liar many times over.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/pro-tru...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphi...

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...


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Ian Miller | 1422 comments James, I have doubt there are fake videos out there. What I saw were news clips gathered the day of the explosion from people with cell phones that happened to be recording the fire and then . . . If they were faked, it was extremely prompt, and added to which, I really doubt the average faker on youtube would know enough chemistry to get the oxide plume right. If they did, and they still faked it, then all I cn say is congratulations, but why make that effort to achieve what?


message 17: by James, Group Founder (last edited Aug 07, 2020 05:20PM) (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Ian wrote: "James, I have doubt there are fake videos out there. What I saw were news clips gathered the day of the explosion from people with cell phones that happened to be recording the fire and then . . . ..."

Ian, i recommend slowing down and actually reading comments that you are replying to first, that always helps :)

As I clearly stated above several times, the Beirut videos you are talking about in mainstream media (which I assume that's always where you get your info from, judging by all your comments on various subjects) are all 100% true footage as you rightly assume -- and especially so since some even aired lived, while others were uploaded within minutes. It'd be virtually impossible to fake such videos (again, as you imply).

So hopefully this time that is now perfectly clear: There are No accusations of faked footage with ANY of the videos shown by mainstream media outlets.

What I am talking about is OTHER videos shared outside of those news channels, and after the event itself, which appear to have now been debunked and reveal little things like missiles or other devious additions were added into the footage...Whether that was done to cast blame on Israel or other foreign parties, I am not sure, in some cases it could have even been done by amateur YouTubers looking to get attention...

For example, this video here shows how there was an "edited" thermal imaging video:

After Beirut Blast: Exposing fake missile videos. Beware of conspiracy theories and fake contents. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bRy0...


message 18: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Here is another potential historical parallel...

MOSSAD AGENT LEAKS ISRAEL FACILITATED JIHADISTS KILLING 241 US MARINES IN 1983 BEIRUT BOMBING https://www.bitchute.com/video/zQ1UDM...


message 19: by James, Group Founder (last edited Aug 07, 2020 07:37PM) (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments LIVE RADIO! Prof. Tony Hall on Corona/Beirut WW3, Gordon Duff Says Israel Nuked Beirut https://kevinbarrett.heresycentral.is...

We’ll discuss various analyses of the Beirut bombing including Thierry Meyssan’s “Israel destroys East Beirut with a new weapon,” Taxi’s “The US, Israel, and Beirutshima,” Richard Silverstein’s “Israel Bombed Beirut,” and the Gordon Duff articles referenced below.


LIVE RADIO! Prof. Tony Hall on Corona/Beirut WW3, Gordon Duff Says Israel Nuked Beirut
August 7, 2020 Kevin Barrett
Listen live 8 to 10 pm Eastern on Revolution.Radio


First hour: Prof. Emeritus Anthony Hall, Globalization Studies, University of Lethbridge, discusses Beirut/BLM-Antifa/COVID—and wonders whether all of these bizarre phenomena of 2020 are part of an escalating hybrid war. If so, the author of that war would presumably be the same bankster cabal that gave us the world wars of the 20th century.

We’ll discuss various analyses of the Beirut bombing including Thierry Meyssan’s “Israel destroys East Beirut with a new weapon,” Taxi’s “The US, Israel, and Beirutshima,” Richard Silverstein’s “Israel Bombed Beirut,” and the Gordon Duff articles referenced below.

Anthony Hall has published on coronavirus conspiracy theories, where COVID came from, the the death of academic integrity, COVID-Antifa-BLM nexus and internet censorship, and the roots of racism in the 1893 Columbia Exposition. He is the author of the acclaimed The American Empire and the Fourth World and Earth into Property.



Second hour: Gordon Duff, Senior Editor of Veterans Today, has been on a roll lately with such articles as “After-Report on the Nuclear Attack on Beirut,” “Breathtaking: Case Closed, Infrared Video Reveals Details of Israeli Nuclear Missile,” “Israel Hits Beirut with Nuclear Missile, Trump and Lebanese Govt. Confirm,” and “Did the Missile/Fertilizer/Fireworks Explosion Miss the ‘Warehouse?- New Impact Photos.”


message 20: by James, Group Founder (last edited Aug 07, 2020 07:21PM) (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Israel Bombed Beirut? https://www.globalresearch.ca/breakin... By Richard Silverstein

The Forbes report acknowledges that:

"There is no question that Israel had the capability to destroy that warehouse. … Or, Israel’s Mossad intelligence could have arranged a bomb or other sabotage. In recent weeks, there have been numerous explosions at nuclear sites, ballistic missile factories and power plants in Iran… The Mossad is a top suspect. … The problem with blaming Israel for the Beirut explosion is motive”.

"The second tell-tale sign is that Israel never offers humanitarian aid to its Arab neighbors. During the Syrian Civil War the only group to whom Israel offered humanitarian assistance was its Islamist anti-Assad allies. Israel has never offered such aid to Lebanon, until today. Instead, it has rained down death and destruction for decades. For it to do so now is the height of chutzpah."


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Lance Morcan | 3058 comments I guess bombing speculation needs to be weighed up against mainstream reports, including one from Lebanon’s state news agency which reports “chief of Beirut’s customs department Badri Daher warned port officials about the stockpiles of ammonium nitrate numerous times” over the years.

It is interesting that Lebanon's president doesn't rule out either negligence or sabotage. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...


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Ian Miller | 1422 comments I have no doubt from the evidence that the fire caused the explosion, but the more interesting question is what started the fire? That could be started with a small piece of carelessness, lack of maintenance (like an electrical fire) but why would a warehouse with nearly 3,000 t of explosives have the scope? An adjacent building on fire? There is a lot we don't know, and no, clips of unknown provenance on youtube are hardly going to answer these questions.


message 23: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Ian wrote: "There is a lot we don't know, and no, clips of unknown provenance on youtube are hardly going to answer these questions..."

That was EXACTLY my point, Ian ;)


message 24: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1422 comments Good to see we agree, James. :-)


message 25: by James, Group Founder (last edited Aug 07, 2020 08:01PM) (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Ian wrote: "I have no doubt from the evidence that the fire caused the explosion..."

Love the confidence (given you haven't, to my knowledge, worked in the classified military sector and therefore are not aware of what exotic weapon tech exists in the secret classified world - and wouldn't know the look of an secret/classified explosion)

Again, I'm playing Devil's Advocate here (to do due diligence) against the official narrative, JUST IN CASE we are being lied to once more. I have zero beliefs whatsoever, only suspicions especially according to the military and espionage veterans I'm listening to - but that could well turn out to be false assumptions, let's see.

Unfortunately, with these things like 9/11 also, we have to allow for the mystery and long-term investigation to play out. I sure wish we lived in a simple world however where everything could instantly be known and where mainstream media could be trusted to report the truth.


message 26: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1422 comments James, the fire was going and well established significantly before the explosion. Fire has previously caused serious explosions with NH4NO3. That pillar of smoke before the explosion had to be a serious fire, then boom from the same place. You are not seriously thinking that there was some sort of attack in the same place that a fire was well established are you? Of course, if an attack caused the fire, that is a different issue.


message 27: by James, Group Founder (last edited Aug 07, 2020 10:02PM) (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Ian wrote: "James, the fire was going and well established significantly before the explosion..."

Fires were also well established before the Twin Towers and Building 7 went down on 9/11... And it certainly "looked like" fires brought those buildings down (organically without any additional attacks or demolition-style bombs being used in stealth after fire broke out).

Yet that didn't stop the leading engineers at the Institute of Northern Engineering, at the University of Alaska Fairbanks, concluding in a comprehensive study (titled "A Structural Reevaluation of the Collapse of World Trade Center 7" http://ine.uaf.edu/wtc7 ) that the "principal conclusion of our study is that fire did not cause the collapse of WTC 7 on 9/11, contrary to the conclusions of NIST and private engineering firms that studied the collapse."

I am not arguing against your assumptions necessarily for I have zero assumptions...But what I do know is in the history of warfare and espionage, many such things that look valid to the eye turn out trickery. You also often need a "cover story" to pull off a major false flag attack - a good cover story is "an unfortunate accident" e.g. start a small fire first, before launching classified military tech such as directed energy weapons or various other tech we know NOTHING about... That's why I discount nothing here, because I recognize I know nothing :)


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Alexis Harding | 72 comments The way you guys think is certainly an eye-opener. However to constantly be a sceptic must be draining?


message 29: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments I have become a little obsessed by the Beirut explosion, so I put together this 5 minute YouTube video to illustrate the things that make me suspicious...

2020 Beirut Explosion: Accident or False Flag Attack? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amQ1P...

The official story is this blast was an ACCIDENT caused by ammonium nitrate confiscated by the Lebanese government years earlier. However, both President Trump and the Lebanese President, as well as some explosives experts, suspect this may have been a carefully coordinated ATTACK.


message 30: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Alexis wrote: "The way you guys think is certainly an eye-opener. However to constantly be a sceptic must be draining?"

Alexis - Dishonesty, greed and corruption are rampant in today's world. Look no further than our politicians, corporates, Big Pharma, the medical and military industrial complexes etc. etc. A healthy scepticism is not only okay but desirable I feel - if only to help keep the bad guys honest.

Gotta go. I feel drained. (It's medication time at this end)...


message 31: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments FBI team heading to Beirut to join explosion investigation https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/0...
The cause of the fire that ignited 2,750 tonnes of ammonium nitrate at the port of Lebanon's capital remains unclear.

Hassan Nasrallah said the cause of the explosion was still unclear, adding that any international investigation would also have to clear Israel of any responsibility in the port explosion.

Israel has denied involvement and so far no evidence has emerged suggesting otherwise.

However, Aoun, who is supported by Hezbollah, has said it is one of the theories being investigated.


message 32: by Alexis (new)

Alexis Harding | 72 comments Need of the hour Lance. Please recharge to unveil more conspiracies. Lol.


message 33: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Alexis wrote: "Need of the hour Lance. Please recharge to unveil more conspiracies. Lol."

Will do, mate.


message 34: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Nasrallah: Hell to Pay if Israel Behind Beirut Explosion https://www.jerusalemonline.com/nasra...

Together with international investigators, including from the United States, Lebanese officials plan to establish the cause of the tragedy. US President Trump previously claimed that the explosion might not have been an accident, but a “terrible attack”.

After the tragedy occurred, Israel’s Channel 13 claimed that Hezbollah had sought to use the ammonium nitrate stored at the warehouse against the Jewish state, a claim that Nasrallah categorically denied during his address.

Israel has denied responsibility for the powerful explosion after reports emerged that Israel could be responsible.


message 35: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Trump may be right about Beirut ‘attack’ https://asiatimes.com/2020/08/trump-m...
Lebanon's president says explosion may have been caused by 'outside interference'


message 36: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments 2020 Beirut Explosion: Accident or False Flag Attack? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amQ1P...


message 37: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Beirut Blast: The Real Motive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cePyH...
I’m going to assert that the explosion in Lebanon was an act of sabotage. And that the act of sabotage was not for what you might think...many think it was Israel trying to secure it’s interests, and they might have helped or even been the ones to pull it. Instead the act of sabotage was an attempt to stop Chinese expansion.


message 38: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments What's going on here now?

Fire Breaks Out at Beirut Port Weeks After Explosion https://www.wsj.com/articles/fire-bre...
Blaze is near the site of the huge blast that damaged large parts of the city


message 39: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments James wrote: "What's going on here now?

Fire Breaks Out at Beirut Port Weeks After Explosion https://www.wsj.com/articles/fire-bre...
Blaze is near the s..."


Update I saw this below in a news story (someone trying to engineer a food crisis, by any chance?):

A fire that raged in the port of Beirut in Lebanon on Thursday spread to a building where the Red Cross had kept its food aid stores. According to the organization, the fire could cause serious disruption to its humanitarian aid operations


message 40: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments James wrote: "JUpdate I saw this below in a news story (someone trying to engineer a food crisis, by any chance?):..."

Something along this analysis is what I meant by engineering a food crisis
HOLODOMOR 2.0: Man Made Famine & Election Chaos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClOJE...


message 41: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Another day, yet another fire in Beirut...

Fire breaks out at Zaha Hadid designed souk building in Beirut #Lebanon #زها حديد https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgLzD...


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James Morcan | 11378 comments .


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Beth (pix1) | 378 comments If so something is scaring them to up their game before their lies become common knowledge and their schemes dissolve.


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