Goodreads Librarians Group discussion

If a book is published by Barnes & Noble Press, is the Barnes & Noble website considered a valid source for book data and/or the cover image?

No, it is specifically listed as not acceptable at https://help.goodreads.com/s/article/...

Understood, however I was wondering if books published by B&N Press would be exempt from that rule since in those cases B&N (or its subsidiary) is the publisher.

I've seen some instances where Librarians add book data + cover, or just book data, so there's some confusion about how to interpret the manual.

My understanding is that we can add the books, but we can't take data/cover from the B&N site. For example, user can provide data and cover from their personal copy.

At the bottom of the document I linked above is a list 'Sites that are not acceptable to use', on that list is 'Barnes & Noble', where is the confusion in interpreting that?
Maybe my autistic mind causing problems again but I can only read that one way.

Barnes & Noble editions can be added but an acceptable source would be required for all data and cover.

Hi all. Kim N and Martin are correct in that currently B&N is not a valid source for book data and covers. However, I can see why this might be different exclusively for books published by B&N Press as in this case B&N is acting as a publisher, and publishers are permitted sources.

Gem - I'm checking in with the team on this one. I'll update this thread on the outcome, and will add a group announcement and update the Librarian Manual if anything changes.

Ah, I added a book from B&N Press, as I indeed thought the "Publishers" part overruled the "bookseller"/"B&N" part. And it was possible to buy the book, I didn't need to be a member or to login.

Following this.

Kim N wrote: "My understanding is that we can add the books, but we can't take data/cover from the B&N site. For example, user can provide data and cover from their personal copy."

+1

Rivka's take:
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...

Thanks for your patience while I found more information on this.

Unfortunately, we won't be making any changes to our stance on B&N and so it is still not permitted as a cover and data source. This includes for books published by B&N Press.

In these cases the member will need to provide all information from their own book, such as a cover scan.

Thank you for double-checking, gem!

Ok, tnx for checking. I found the message I wrote and I didn't add it, but asked more questions: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...

Jaclyn wrote: "Thanks for your patience while I found more information on this.

Unfortunately, we won't be making any changes to our stance on B&N and so it is still not permitted as a cover and data source. Thi..."

Thanks for looking into this, Jaclyn!

Hi team. I've been in further conversation with the team about this.

As B&N Press titles are only sold on B&N and therefore the retail site is the only direct source from that publisher, we are permitted to use B&N as a cover and data source for these titles. So:

B&N can be used as a cover and data source, but only for B&N Press titles.

I've updated the Librarian Manual article for Acceptable Sources.

Cool! Appreciate the further discussions and update. Enjoy your maternity leave! Currently nursing my 2 month old. 😊

gem wrote: "Cool! Appreciate the further discussions and update. Enjoy your maternity leave! Currently nursing my 2 month old. 😊"

Thanks gem! 😊 How lovely, this is my first (non-furry child) and I'm very excited.

Thanks Jaclyn! Great to know that and thanks that you further investigated it.
Enjoy your little miracle together and the amazing rollercoaster that ut brings.

You're welcome Linde, and thank you! 😊