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Group Reads Discussions 2008 > Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom - Who is your favorite character?

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message 1: by M.D. (new)

M.D. (mdbenoit) | 115 comments Yes, it is a fairly short book, almost a novella, so it's more difficult to fully develop characters. Who is your favourite and why? Or is there only one character in the book?


message 2: by Sandi (new)

Sandi (sandikal) I have to say that I didn't really like any of the characters in the book. They were so shallow and self-indulgent. I think the best character may have been the Magic Kingdom itself. It somehow became more of a character than a setting.


message 3: by S. Kay (new)

S. Kay (cobwebs) | 5 comments I have a feeling that if Zoya had developed into a character beyond the two-three page account (though there wasn't much need for anything more) I would have enjoyed her story a lot. The spontaneously crazy always catches my interest.


message 4: by Sandi (new)

Sandi (sandikal) I would have liked to learn more about Zoya too.


message 5: by Brad (new)

Brad (judekyle) | 1607 comments I am not finished yet, only about half way, but I am really liking Julius.


message 6: by Jen (new)

Jen (squirrelgirl) I agree with Sandi. One the least appealing aspects of the book for me was how unappealing the characters are. I found them all unsympathetically self-indulgent. That didn't completely keep me from enjoying the book, I just simply couldn't relate to any of the characters.

If I had to pick one, I suppose it would be Dan. He as the most interesting personality and back story.

Hard to say more without spoilers.


message 7: by Brad (last edited Aug 10, 2008 09:30AM) (new)

Brad (judekyle) | 1607 comments I'm starting to feel like I am the only person who liked the characters in this book. I really liked Julius, Lil, Dan and Tim. And I found Julius and Dan particularly sympathetic.


message 8: by John (new)

John  (johnanealio) | 17 comments I found Dan to be the most interesting. I think that he holds up the flag for our current values in a non-preachy way. He accepted the world around him, but he didn't want to buy into it.


message 9: by M.D. (new)

M.D. (mdbenoit) | 115 comments Isn't the "shallowness" of the characters the point of the story, though? And aren't they a reflection of the many people we meet, or see, or who are created in the media?

How in-depth do news stories go, these days, for example? The most sensationalistic, visually or content-wise, the longer it stays, and it's not long at all.


message 10: by Sandi (new)

Sandi (sandikal) Shallowness is exactly the point of the story. But, I found that the shallowness of the characters made them pretty unlikable. Isn't that how it works in real life too?


message 11: by Jen (new)

Jen (squirrelgirl) I couldn't agree more Sandi. It was definitely a major point in the story, which makes it interesting.. but it also kept me from connecting with or enjoying the characters.

I think the story could have been much richer if Doctorow had inserted an anti-hero of sorts. One that initially seems to embrace the doctrine of the society, but that ultimately shows more depth and a resistance to the shallowness that permeates everyone and everything.

Dan almost does that, but he's not the main character and isn't developed as much as I wanted him to be.


message 12: by Sandi (last edited Aug 14, 2008 04:04PM) (new)

Sandi (sandikal) Jen, you're right about Dan. He did have the potential to transcend the shallowness in the beginning. But, I think he ended up succumbing to it just like everyone else. I think that's what his affair with Lil signified.


message 13: by Dylan (new)

Dylan (dmfriend26) | 10 comments My favorite character is Marvin the depressed robot, from Hitchhickers Guide to the galaxy. Do I have to say why? He's hillarious. Love Marvin!!! Another one is Silk from The Belgariad. Another hillarious character!!!


message 14: by Dylan (new)

Dylan (dmfriend26) | 10 comments Oops, sorry I didn't realize it was from a specific book. I thought it was a general topic. Sorry.


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