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message 1: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11837 comments Here in Utah there are many people who wear the special mormon undergarments. These are supposed to be worn next to the skin, so a lot of the women wear the tops (like a thin t-shirt) underneath their bra.

That makes no sense to me, and I'm wondering if that could be at all comfortable? I would think the women with very little up top would have trouble keeping the bra in place (the undies look slippery), and the ladies with more would have issues with the undershirt bunching or pulling up.

Having never worn a bra it's possible I could be completely wrong. What do the bra wearers say?


message 2: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments I can't imagine wearing something under a bra.


message 3: by janine (new)

janine | 7709 comments Wearing something under a bra doesn't sound like it could be comfortable.


message 4: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments I'll try it and get back to you.


message 5: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Done.


message 6: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11837 comments Seems like I had it figured correctly, though I hadn't factored sweat into the equation.

I picked up a hot dog at Costco today for lunch, and the woman serving the food had a lightweight blouse on. When she turned, it was clear that she had her garments under her bra. Ewww. That's what reminded me that I had been meaning to ask about it.


message 7: by Heidi (new)

Heidi (heidihooo) | 10825 comments Sounds like a camisole, Phil... usually women wear either a camisole or a bra (esp. during the summer months), sometimes even both at the same time. BUT, the camisole is typically worn over the bra, not under it. My HS BFFE is Mormon. She wears one of those shirt thingies... but I swear she always wore it over the bra, not under it. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention???


message 8: by ~Geektastic~ (new)

 ~Geektastic~ (atroskity) | 3205 comments I've tried bathing suit tops on over tank tops before, and that was uncomfortable for the 30 or so seconds I had one on. I would imagine wearing a shirt underneath a bra all day would be both uncomfortable and unflattering. As someone "with very little up top," there is definitely a clothing migration issue.


message 9: by Mary (new)

Mary (merrussell) Sounds like way way too much clothing.


message 10: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11837 comments Heidi wrote: "...but I swear she always wore it over the bra, not under it. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention?"

You were probably right. Outside of Utah I think mormons are more relaxed in how they do things. Inside the state, though, it's like a pressure cooker for them; if they aren't strictly adhering to the rules they're likely to get ratted out by their "friends" and neighbors. It's like a competition to see who can be the most righteous.


message 11: by Suefly (new)

Suefly | 620 comments Sounds uncomfortable


message 12: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Dutch wrote: "I think this will be the last time I talk my boobs again until the next time."

We'll be waiting.


message 13: by AmyK (new)

AmyK (yakyma) Apparently this topic is confusing to mormons who are wearing them as well
http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/v...


message 14: by Heidi (new)

Heidi (heidihooo) | 10825 comments Garmies?!! They call them "Garmies"?


message 15: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11837 comments Sure, it's gorgeous. I celebrate that every time I go out on my bike. But just try getting a real beer around here.


message 16: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Phil wrote: "Sure, it's gorgeous. I celebrate that every time I go out on my bike. But just try getting a real beer around here."

I have one word: Mesquite.


message 17: by Jim (new)

Jim | 6484 comments Welcome to TC Amy.


message 18: by AmyK (new)

AmyK (yakyma) Thanks, glad to be here


message 19: by Laurin (new)

Laurin (llooloo) | 1867 comments I can't see how that would be comfortable. I'm not the most well endowed, but I do have something. I don't think it would be so much that the bra would slip, it seems like it would get bunched up underneath the bra.


message 20: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24781 comments Mod
It would certainly not be more comfortable than having the bra right next to your skin, and wearing a shirt over the bra. It would be comparable to wearing pants, or tights, underneath your underwear.

But I don't judge. If someone's religious beliefs require them to wear special underwear, it's not my business to register displeasure. Do whatever you need to do.


message 21: by Phil (last edited Nov 29, 2011 05:51PM) (new)

Phil | 11837 comments So...     am I judging when I say, "a shirt under a bra? That's weird, and isn't it uncomfortable?"

If I am, then call me guilty because I ain't gonna stop.

I'M GOING TO BURN IN HELL!!


message 22: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24781 comments Mod
Yes, you are judging when you judge that it's weird.

I hardly think you're going to burn in hell for it, but anything's possible.


message 23: by AmyK (new)

AmyK (yakyma) my son used to put on his underwear over his pants...


message 24: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Madonna used to wear her underwear on the outside.




message 25: by Helena (new)

Helena | 1056 comments My niece is Mormon. I’ve never noticed her wearing garments under her undergarments under her clothes. You’d think she’d look a bit lumpy, but she doesn’t- not even in the summer. I’ll have to ask her about this.


message 26: by Jammies (new)

Jammies It sounds uncomfortable to me, but as Bun said, bras are uncomfortable too. I don't know if the garments are custom-made and could be fitted so they don't bunch up, but honestly, I've never thought about it.

LG, aren't you judging Phil for judging his neighbors?


message 27: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24781 comments Mod
No, I am not judging Phil.

If I am of the opinion that a person is opinionated, does that make me opinionated too, because I hold that opinion?


message 28: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24781 comments Mod
Bras are not uncomfortable, unless you happen to be wearing an uncomfortable one. None of my bras are uncomfortable. I much prefer wearing one, to not wearing one.


message 29: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11837 comments Lobstergirl wrote: "Yes, you are judging when you judge that it's weird."

Okay, but I'm not going to stop, nor am I going to be sorry about it. Heck, they judge me constantly as "less worthy."

If the religious people of this country are the ones who will be populating heaven at the end of times, I'm quite certain I don't want to be there.


message 30: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11837 comments Lobstergirl wrote: "None of my bras are uncomfortable. I much prefer wearing one, to not wearing one."

That's what Felix said, too.


message 31: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) I did?


message 32: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11837 comments Remember, that night when you were wearing that pinkish-purple tu-tu and drinking straight from that bottle of Everclear?


message 33: by Janice (new)

Janice (jamasc) It doesn't appear that the woman in the picture (link on message 1) is wearing a bra.

From the Mormon discussion board, it sounds like the garments are worn when they go to the temple.


message 34: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17373 comments Mod
She's not yet, she has to put it over her undergarment.


message 35: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Under where?


message 36: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11837 comments Janice wrote: "It doesn't appear that the woman in the picture (link on message 1) is wearing a bra.

From the Mormon discussion board, it sounds like the garments are worn when they go to the temple."


The picture was just to show what the garments look like. The woman at Costco (and others I've seen) wear a bra over the garments.

Most of the people where I live wear their garments throughout the day, every day. Outside of Utah people may be more relaxed on the rules. I used to work in Seattle with a programmer who wore his garments all the time and there may have been others, but I never asked.


message 37: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24781 comments Mod
That's fair. But isn't there some sports-bra type thing, that doesn't have any extra parts that would pinch or poke, that is entirely cotton and lycra, that would be comfortable for people who aren't bra-shaped? Sports bras tend not to force one's boobs into cups, they just situate the boobs in an area.


message 38: by ~Geektastic~ (new)

 ~Geektastic~ (atroskity) | 3205 comments I mentioned this conversation to my husband and I now realize that he told me about these "garmies" ages ago but I didn't put two and two together when this thread started. His company is based in Utah, so he had to spend a week in Provo for training and a lot of the local guys kept talking about how the Mormons wore "magic underwear," so now I get what they were talking about. Mormon magic underwear does not sound as fun as the name implies.


message 39: by Jammies (new)

Jammies Lobstergirl wrote: "That's fair. But isn't there some sports-bra type thing, that doesn't have any extra parts that would pinch or poke, that is entirely cotton and lycra, that would be comfortable for people who are..."

But sports bras aren't available in the same range of sizes, they aren't as supportive and they moosh your boobs together so that if you sweat, you really sweat and your boobs stick together.

I've tried multiple brands and styles of bras and never found a truly comfortable one. I will just be over here being jealous of you.

Amber, I love the phrase "magic underwear" and I too think it should be more exciting than it is.


message 40: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments I have great sports bras and I am way more than a B cup. I've been buying the same kind since high school. They're Champion, they have a double back clasp, they cost $40 but you can usually get them 2 for 1 at hanes outlets. Highly recommended.


message 41: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Didn't Marconi invent the wireless?


message 42: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11837 comments I thought he stuck a feather in his hat and called it macaroni.


message 43: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments Barb wrote: "Wireless?"

Wireless. Quite comfortable, non squooshy, no uniboob. I have never found any other sports bra I like. If it is ever discontinued I will cry.


message 44: by Stina (new)

Stina (stinalee) | 749 comments I love bras... I really do. I slept in them until about a year ago when my cup size went from cheap bra to expensive bra pricing. I've had a couple that laid weird on my sternum, but other than that, no bad experiences, except one*.

I wish I had a job being a bra fairy. It's my dream to bring perfectly fitted bras to the masses.

*One time I was in line for the Matterhorn at Disneyland and my boobs were on one of their many growth spurts. I had on a gorgeous butter yellow bra from Victoria's Secret and AS I WAS STANDING THERE, the damn thing broke. The hook and eye things (the EYES!) ripped out of the back of the bra. So glad it was 1997 and I was wearing overalls. Not a lot of places to buy a bra inside the Magic Kingdom.


message 45: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Phil wrote: "I thought he stuck a feather in his hat and called it macaroni."

Yank your doodle, dandy.


message 46: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments Barb wrote: "I'll have to look into those. "

Unfortunately, I've never been smart enough to write down the model number since I know it by sight. If I can figure it out I'll let you know.


message 47: by Heidi (new)

Heidi (heidihooo) | 10825 comments Barb wrote: "Yikes. I've never had a bra break down on me in public ... that would not be good."

I've had several in which the underwire snapped apart and poked through the lining - THAT hurts like a sumahlahbeach.


message 48: by Jammies (new)

Jammies Heidi, YES. I snorted when I read your post because I was just about to post that! Sarah, I would pay $40 for a non-uniboob-causing sports bra.


message 49: by Jim (new)

Jim | 6484 comments Heidi wrote: "sumahlahbeach
"


Is that in Arkansas?


message 50: by Heidi (new)

Heidi (heidihooo) | 10825 comments Jammies wrote: "Heidi, YES. I snorted when I read your post because I was just about to post that! Sarah, I would pay $40 for a non-uniboob-causing sports bra."


I've also had several on which the shoulder strap decided to break loose from the rest of the contraption. That doesn't hurt so much as it's seriously awkward.


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