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For @Kasparov63, #Putin’s defeat in #Ukraine would mean the collapse of his regime, a smaller #Russia, and more likely regions such as Tatarstan, Bashkortostan, and Chechnya to secede from the federation. https://t.co/xhHQNWzeag

— Francisco Taveira (@jftaveira1993) July 7, 2023

This article is a reprint. You can read the original at Outdoor Enthusiast Magazine.

By Matt Carlson

“Russia is on the brink of a civil war that could destroy the country, this Thursday the head of Ukraine’s main intelligence service (GUR): Major General Kyrillo Budanov issued a warning after a secret internal investigation by the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia. The levels of public support for the Wagner Group’s rebellion are the most direct challenge to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s authority during his tenure.

According to an official quoted by the British newspaper ‘The Times’, the Russian ministry monitored attitudes towards the riots with a new generation of spyware that monitors trends in messaging apps and social networks. According to the report, during the days of the uprising, Wagner’s founder Yevgeny Prigozhin had popular support in 17 of Russia’s 46 regions: Putin had already “won” 21 – in the remaining regions, support for both leaders was roughly equal.

“This is what we see now: Russian society is divided into two parts,” Budanov said, adding that the data show “what we are saying – that the Russian Federation is on the brink of civil war.” There should be a little internal litigation and the internal conflict will intensify.

According to Ukrainian intelligence services, the Russian study found that Putin could be trusted with Moscow’s loyalty but not with his hometown of St. Petersburg — in the southern republic of Dagestan, where the Russian president had the worst support. Prigozhin receives 97% support.

The prospect of civil war in Russia, or the country’s disintegration in a post-Putin world, worries world leaders, but is seen as necessary by some opposition figures seeking to overthrow the Kremlin. For Garry Kasparov, a Putin critic and former world chess champion, Putin’s defeat in Ukraine would mean the collapse of his regime, a smaller Russia, and more likely regions such as Tatarstan, Bashkortostan and Chechnya to secede from the federation. “Eastern Europe would be happy if Russia disintegrates and becomes a wild, chaotic, multi-state East”, “The situation in the West is changing. In America, I think this is the biggest concern,” Kasparov stressed, because it means “the rise of China and at the expense of Russia”.”

Even after countless documented war crimes, Putin and his elites hope their Western sycophants & partners will help them return to profitable business as usual. That’s the goal of the “peace now!” and “but nukes!” propaganda lines: Destroy Ukraine, make money with murderers.

— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) June 28, 2023

This article is a reprint. You can read the original at Newsweek.

By David Brennan

“President Vladimir Putin‘s government has “no chance” of long-term survival, according to one adviser to the Ukrainian defense ministry, as the Kremlin grapples with its military quagmire in Ukraine and mounting domestic tensions that last week erupted in the short-lived but humiliating Wagner Group insurrection.

Andriy Zagorodnyuk—who served as Ukraine’s defense minister from 2019 to 2020 and is now an adviser to the defense ministry—told attendees at a Chatham House think tank conference in London on Thursday that Kyiv’s forces have no intention of marching on Moscow, but that there can be no meaningful negotiations with Putin or his allies in the Kremlin.

“We need to free our territory, that would be for us a massive, massive achievement,” Zagorodnyuk said. “And that’s where we’re going. We’re not going to compromise on that, because any compromise will mean that there will be a continuation of the war.”

“We’re not planning to march in Moscow, at least for the moment,” he added. “I’m sure there will be a democratic coalition marching in Moscow together with democratic Russians, one day. Because the Russian regime as it is right now will go away. It has no chance to stand.”

Russian President Vladimir Putin chairs a meeting during a trip to Russia’s Republic of Dagestan on June 28, 2023. The Russian dictator is grappling with a stalled invasion of Ukraine and growing domestic tensions.GAVRIIL GRIGOROV/SPUTNIK/AFP VIA GETTY IMAGES

“We should not be afraid of victory,” Zagorodnyuk said, urging NATO nations to see Ukraine’s battle-hardened army as an “absolutely irreplaceable” asset in the West’s deepening confrontation with Moscow.

The regular Russian military was confronted with a war on two fronts last week, as its troops simultaneously defended against the long-awaited Ukrainian counteroffensive and grappled with a sudden rebellion led by Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin, whose forces briefly threatened a march on Moscow in an effort to unseat Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov.

Prigozhin later reportedly accepted an offer to relocate to Belarus, with his Wagner fighters given the chance to join him or to sign contracts with the regular Russian military. Still, this week reports have emerged from Russia that Wagner is still recruiting.

Putin avoided civil war, but his refusal or inability to visit retribution on the oligarch turned warlord hints at a precarious political position already undermined by repeated incursions into Russian territory by Kyiv-aligned rebel Russian fighters.

Gary Kasparov, the chess grandmaster who has become a leading voice for the pro-democratic Russian diaspora, told Thursday’s Chatham House conference that the trajectory of the war in Ukraine doesn’t favor the Russian dictator.

“Putin is going downhill now,” Kasparov said, suggesting that a Ukrainian military victory could precipitate a new Russian revolution.

“The Ukrainian flag raising in Sevastopol is the beginning of the liberation of Russia from Putin’s fascism,” Kasparov said, referring to Kyiv’s hoped for liberation of Crimea.

“Imagine that after a Ukrainian victory you have a quarter of a million of angry Russian men crossing the border going east,” Kasparov added.

“Removing Putin and building democracy, hopefully, in Russia is the business of Russians, but again, nothing will happen in Russia before Ukraine wins. So that’s why for us the top priority is making sure Ukraine wins.”

Newsweek has contacted the Russian foreign ministry by email to request comment.

Ukrainian servicemen are pictured in their T-72 tank at a position in the Donetsk region on June 25, 2023. Andriy Zagorodnyuk said NATO should see Ukrainian forces as an “absolutely irreplaceable asset.”GENYA SAVILOV/AFP VIA GETTY IMAGES”

On @Channel4News tonight: Putin’s next move by Russian chess grandmaster @Kasparov63 His analysis is second to none. Tune in at 7. pic.twitter.com/uHThIQFppt

— Cathy Newman (@cathynewman) June 29, 2023

Putin’s deniability of Wagner was never plausible. As with hackers & assassins, no such force can exist in a dictatorship without its blessing. These are flimsy ruses so weak Western leaders can make excuses for doing business with the Russian terrorist state. https://t.co/FTNLFqkLu5

— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) June 27, 2023

The US must make its stand clear against ever accepting confessed war criminal Putin as a legitimate leader. Crush him in Ukraine, take all looted assets, & Putin will either be deposed or declare victory and grovel until his end, as he did w Prigozhin. pic.twitter.com/iExnmximUI

— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) June 27, 2023

This video is a reprint. You can watch the original clip at Channel 4 News.

“We spoke to the Russian chess grandmaster and human rights campaigner Garry Kasparov.

He is a long-term critic of Vladimir Putin and had been speaking at the annual conference of the international relations institute Chatham House.

We started by asking him what he thinks will happen to Yevgeny Prigozhin?”

‘Ukraine is fighting the war that NATO was created for.’@Kasparov63 at @ChathamHouse #CHLondon Conference pic.twitter.com/ZEbD1Hmf7H

— Anna_Morgan (@Anna_Luky) June 29, 2023

Emotional ending to an extraordinary #CHLondon conference as @bronwenmaddox awards the Chatham House prize to @ZelenskyyUa

President Zelenskyy joined live from Kiev to accept the award on behalf of the Ukrainian people with @VPrystaiko on stage.@UkrEmbLondon pic.twitter.com/ykOJ0StM16

— David Watson (@davidwatson_m) June 29, 2023

Of course. Putin and any dictatorship simply twists reality to suit its present demands. All the garbage about Putin needing off-ramps or to save face was always stupid. Kick his ass out of Ukraine and he’ll have a big victory parade—if he survives. https://t.co/Pxkec4jVi7

— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) June 28, 2023

To listen to the full panel, you can create an account at Chatham House and watch the recording here.

My interview with Corriere della Sera. Putin has lost the aura of invincibility every dictator and mafia boss requires to survive. When his enemies see he’s vulnerable and his allies see he can no long protect them, the clock is ticking. https://t.co/mUKfVuqKqT https://t.co/EGVD937AOX

— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) June 25, 2023

This article is a reprint. You can read the original at Corriere della Sera.

Di Federico Fubini

“L’ex campione mondiale di scacchi e dissidente russo: «Prigozhin si è rivoltato perché non aveva più niente da perdere: ora l’impero di Putin può andare in pezzi»

Garry Kasparov è uno dei più grandi avversari del regime di Vladimir Putin e ora vede la strada che può portare alla sua fine. Ma, avverte, non alla fine della tragedia russa.

Come interpreta la rivolta di Evgeny Prigozhin e la sua decisione di fermarsi?
«Putin nel suo video ha detto che la Russia veniva pugnalata alle spalle come nel 1917, ma l’analogia che mi viene in mente è con la presa del potere di Mussolini. Marciò su Roma nel 1922 facendo leva sulle recriminazioni dei reduci di guerra. Così Prigozhin ha cercato di marciare su Mosca per abbattere il potere, anche se poi ha deciso di fermarsi».

Ha detto che voleva evitare spargimenti di sangue…
«Non lo sappiamo. Sappiamo solo che né Prigozhin né Putin si fanno scrupoli a versare il sangue degli altri, poco importa che siano ucraini o russi. A loro interessano solo il potere e il denaro. Se hanno concluso un accordo ieri, immagino sia solo su queste basi. Dunque durerà solo fin quando il potere e il denaro sono garantiti a entrambi».

Ma Putin per ora sembra salvo. Lo è realmente o solo in apparenza?
«Si intravede comunque la fine del suo regime. Putin non può restare al potere a lungo dopo aver perso la sua aura, il suo status di leader supremo. L’immagine che lascia da ieri è quella di un dittatore che scappa per salvarsi la vita. Per qualche ora si è assistito al collasso dell’intera catena di comando russa. La colonna della Wagner ha potuto prendere Rostov e poi avanzare indisturbata per centinaia di chilometri».

Ma non pensa che Putin abbia dimostrato che nessuna insurrezione contro di lui può avere successo?
«La situazione resta estremamente volatile e pericolosa. L’autorità di Putin è danneggiata, dubito si possa riprendere. Quello di ieri non è stato un episodio di guerra civile, perché per ora i civili non sono stati coinvolti. Ma non ci siamo andati lontani: non può restare senza conseguenze».

Cosa le fa pensare che il sistema putiniano poggi su basi così fragili?
«È un potere mafioso, estremamente duro con la povera gente. La disuguaglianza nella società ha raggiunto livelli superiori a quelli africani. Putin ha mandato in guerra centinaia di migliaia di uomini dalle province più povere. Ha preservato gli abitanti di Mosca e San Pietroburgo, ma nel resto del Paese ci sono duecentomila fra morti o feriti. Ormai tutti hanno legami con qualcuno che è rimasto ucciso o mutilato in Ucraina. In Russia c’è una grande domanda di giustizia sociale, le disparità sono grottesche e la guerra le ha rese ancor più dolorose».

È plausibile che Prigozhin si sia fermato perché ha capito che non poteva vincere?
«Non lo sappiamo, ma poteva arrivare a Mosca. È probabile che ci sarebbero stati combattimenti nella capitale. Prigozhin ha un contingente fra cinquemila e diecimila soldati, pochi in confronto ai centomila della Rosgvardia. Ma non è solo una questione di numeri: contano la qualità e la determinazione».

Che intende dire?
«La Wagner ha con sé gente esperta, che ha combattuto. Molti sono criminali, ma fra loro ci sono alcuni dei migliori guerrieri del mondo. E non hanno paura di morire. Putin forse ha ancora dalla sua i generali, ma non ha più i luogotenenti o i caporali».

Cos’ha scatenato, per lei, la rivolta di Prigozhin?
«Il decreto che sanciva il passaggio dal primo luglio di tutte le milizie private sotto il controllo del ministero della Difesa. A quel punto Prigozhin non aveva niente da perdere: gli avrebbero tolto il controllo della Wagner e sapeva che sarebbe stato mandato a morire in prima linea».

Che conseguenze vede sulla guerra in Ucraina?
«Sarei sorpreso se gli ucraini non cercassero di approfittare di questa situazione per attaccare e riprendere più territorio nei prossimi giorni».”

Putin’s speech was a pathetic spectacle reflecting the weakness exhibited during Prigozhin’s mutiny. In a mafia state where the threat of violence determines everything, he has lost that monopoly and is temporizing. https://t.co/u24rIlrjCa

— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) June 26, 2023

.@Kasparov63: “Prigozhin has demonstrated that the whole system is rotten. It is a vacuum of power. You just need one push to demonstrate that.” https://t.co/D2m2C5fkE3 #Russia

— Francisco Taveira (@jftaveira1993) June 25, 2023

This article is a reprint. You can read the original at The Kyiv Post.

Photo by Odd ANDERSEN / AFP

By Jason Jay Smart

“Garry Kasparov, one of the foremost leaders of the Russian democratic opposition and human rights defenders, in an exclusive interview with Kyiv Post, analyzes what Prigozhin’s war against Putin means, how it will play-out, and what we should expect next. 

Kasparov tells Kyiv Post: 

“Putin was right by invoking 1917 [in his TV address on June 24]. This is clearly a 1917 situation. The war is not over but it did not go well. You have had hundreds of thousands of [Russian men] recruited, without a clear understanding of what they are doing – why are they are paying such a high price – why they have been taken away from their families.”

This coupled with the fact that, “Russia is a country with a huge social disparity. The ratio of poor to wealthy is worse than many African countries…These people have always lived under oppression,” something that is not even “about democracy,” rather “it is about them being subordinated even to the local police chief. Anyone with some power can push them around.”

Unfortunately for Putin, “Now – these people – have guns,” and “they have a charismatic leader. Ironically, Putin empowered him to bring criminals into the Army. And [Prigozhin] created a powerful army.”

This army of Wagnerites, today, says Kasparov “are seasoned warriors. Those who fought in Bakhmut have different ideas about life and death.”

“Prigozhin showed that the entire Putin Regime is just a Hollywood decoration: Where is [Chairman of the Russian Senate] Matvienko? Where is [Prime Minister] Mustian? Where are all the Ministers? Prigozhin has demonstrated that the whole system is rotten. It is a vacuum of power. You just need one push to demonstrate that.”

Between February and May 2022, Russia destroyed 90 percent of the buildings in Mariupol before it was occupied. It is now being rebuilt and buyers see the new real estate as a “good investment.”

But will Putin fall?

“Most likely Putin is finished. The issue is that Prigozhin cannot create a government. It is a raw rebellion, and he does not have a political wing. That is the difference with 1917: Lenin had a political organization. Prigozhin does not,” which contributes to why “Russia is moving into chaos territory.”

Putin erred by “having an imperialist war without a clear message to the Russian public as to why they had to do it. Putin himself changed the reason so many times.” Now we see “the transformation – like Lenin: Transformation from imperialist war into civil war: As if he followed Lenin’s formula!”

The difference today, however, is that “unlike in 1917, [people in Russia] know about the decadence of the Russian elite. Russian peasants in 1917, in Tomsk or Penza, had very vague ideas about luxury. They knew it was different. But today they know. They watch Navalny’s movies, and right now they can do something about it. They can restore justice – or end injustice that they have suffered.”

But is it really possible to overthrow Putin?

“Now you have hundreds of thousands of armed people. Who must make a choice: Stay with Putin or join the rebellion. But why stay with the regime?”

Kasparov recalls that, “Yesterday, when the [Russian Army] generals showed up to condemn Prigozhin – I spoke to my friends, ‘Look it is not about generals. Of course, generals will condemn Prigozhin as they are beneficiaries of Putin’s mafia system.’ Rather, it is what the [normal guys] will do. And we got an answer this morning: They are changing sides.”

However, if the average Russian looks out his window and sees tanks and explosions – is it not warranted that they are afraid?

The average Russian “should be afraid. But there is nothing they can do. If you’re an average Russian citizen, you are stuck with a regime that is collapsing. It is like a dinosaur, this regime; it is a huge mass with little brains. When a dinosaur dies, it falls over and anything standing next to it will be crushed.”

Is Prigozhin a “good guy?”

“Prigozhin is a charismatic criminal. Is he worse than Putin? No, they are the same. But the Putin regime brought us to this disastrous state. The only way to the future is to see what will happen when this regime collapses.”

So, what should Prigozhin do?

“Prigozhin’s rebellion was forced by Shoigu. Shoigu wanted to beat Prigozhin by bureaucratic means. [Shoigu insisted] that all private military groups had to be brought under subordination [under Shoigu] by July 1. Which means Prigozhin would be at Shoigu’s mercy, and he would end up in Bakhmut, or elsewhere on the front line, by July 2. Rather than accept this fate, Prigozhin decided to fight back.”

Insisting that, “It is not about the opinion of generals. During a time of uncertainty. orders from the top are not being executed by subordinates.” Which is why today, “the Russian military is divided into two categories: Those who fought in Ukraine and those who did not.”

Rather, the question is, will “those who fought in Ukraine shoot at Prigozhin’s men? It would seem many do not want to as they fought shoulder-to-shoulder together” and that is why “those who did not fight in Ukraine are irrelevant.”

In the case of Wagner specifically, “I think of these criminals: they are seasoned warriors who are ready to die, unlike the Rosgvardia [Russian National Guard] that has never faced such a task. One fighter from Bakhmut worth 50 [untested Russian National Guard] from Omsk.”

There are reports that Putin has left Moscow: Does Putin realize that the situation is out-of-control?

“I think so, clearly: Putin took a night and half a day to respond. He spent hours without being able to find words.”

“Putin was supreme authority – but now we see he is no one. It took him ten hours, even more – just to make his statement. But it seems too little too late,” moreover, “it is unclear if he has resources to fight back.”

What we are seeing in the Kremlin is not shocking to Kasparov as “This is how dictatorship functions: Where you have absolute authority. Like a supreme judge. If Goring is quarrelling with Himmler, then the Fuehrer is the absolute authority. You can’t imagine them fighting and Hitler hiding in his bunker.” And now, “Prigozhin’s Telegram has said that Putin chose the wrong side and soon [Russia] will have a new president.”

Will the Russian democratic opposition support Prigozhin?

“We are not planning to support Prigozhin – he is a criminal…Dictatorship that stays around too long works out poorly. It is the illusion of stability. This is what happened with Khadafi. If you let him turn his country into a political desert…What animals live in a desert? Scorpions, rats, snakes…

So, what’s next?

Kasparov is clear on this:  “The fall of Putin is inevitable. He has lost his aura of invincibility and as a supreme leader.””

By Mike Genet

The following article is a reprint. You can read the original at The Examiner.

“By Mike Genet
[email protected]

Garry Kasparov says he felt especially honored to speak Thursday at the Truman Presidential Library in Independence because his father in the post-Stalin Soviet Union named him after Harry Truman, in admiration for what he saw as the president’s stand against communism.

The Russian language and spelling lead to a G instead of H, as well as the “hard G” sound, the chess grandmaster explained, and it was a rare name in the country “until Harry Potter came along.”

Moreover, Kasparov said,cha the type of global leadership Truman displayed with events such as the Berlin Airlift, which started 75 years ago this month to counter Stalin’s blockade of the German city, is required now amid Russia’s war against Ukraine.

“The world desperately needs people like him,” said Kasparov, 60, who became the youngest world chess champion at age 22 and fled Russia in 2013 after his pro-democratic opposition to Vladimir Putin put him and his family in danger. “We need bold thinking like that.”

Whereas some leaders would look at what can and cannot be done, he said, “Truman saw what needed to be done, and how we can do it.

“It’s still hard to believe, 75 years later,” Kasparov said of the logistics involved with the Berlin Airlift, “and now we have a supply-chain issue every time a ship gets stuck in a canal.”

June 26 marks the 75th anniversary of the Berlin Airlift, which helped save people in the city’s areas controlled by the U.S., Britain and France after World War II. Soviet leaders, upset at plans to create a unified West German state from the other three occupation zones, had blockaded road, rail and water routes into Berlin’s Western-controlled areas a couple days earlier, cutting off supplies. Berlin was in the Soviet zone of Germany, but post-war allied agreements had left that city for divided occupancy.

According to the U.S. Department of Defense, the airlift brought 2.3 million tons of supplies to the city through 278,000 air drops, which continued through September 1949 – four months after the Soviets relented and ended their 11-month blockade.

Now, Ukraine is the current battlefield of good and evil, Kasparov said, and as “clear cut” a difference between the two as he can imagine. He did not outright call for greatly increased United States involvement to support Ukraine, but he was resolute that such support from the U.S. and other allies is vital and must continue. Ukraine joining NATO, he said, would only seem proper since NATO was formed during Truman’s presidency with the expressed purpose of deterring Russian aggression.

“Ukraine is fighting the very war that NATO was built for,” Kasparov said, adding, “Do we want to live in a world where a dictator will think he can do whatever he wants, because he has nukes?”

While Ukraine is the battlefield, he said, the war will not necessarily end in Ukraine, not with China watching and possibly contemplating moves based on what happens. Also, it is not a war that can end purely at the negotiating table.

“Just as there are good wars and bad wars, there is a difference between a good peace and a bad peace,” Kasparov said, citing Hitler at Munich in the late 1930s as an example. “The price of stopping a dictator goes up with every delay. Isolation is the alternative to engagement that only fuels more aggression.”

Because of decisions such as the Berlin Airlift, the Marshall Plan to help rebuild Europe after World War II, NATO’s formation and droppimg atomic bombs to end World War II, Kasparov said, “Stalin never had reason to doubt Truman’s resolve.”

Despite his affinity for chess and the strategy behind it, Kasparov said poker is probably a better analogy for political leaders, as one cannot easily reveal one’s position and must deal with the hands dealt at the time, and Truman was good at that card game for politics, he said.

The success of the Korean War comes from responding to communist aggression, he said, and “not dropping the third bomb” of letting General Douglas MacArthur invade China and instigating a much larger war that Stalin probably wanted.

“I wish now we had his talent in the western leaders of the last 20 years,” he said.

Kasparov said he believes President Biden shows a grasp of history in dealing more appropriately with authoritarian leaders better than his two predecessors. President Obama, he said, “thought you could declare peace with everyone” when it takes two sides to make peace. President Trump, on the other hand, “didn’t want to make peace with dictators; he wanted to be friends with them and be like them.”

Answering a question later, Kasparov said he is not just opposed to the Russian government, but against oppressive dictatorships anywhere, as he grew up under that oppression and can speak to the differences.

“Freedom is better, democracy is better, equality under the law is better,” he said.

Still, Kasparov said, his speech is not about “what Garry thinks,” but about what Truman would think.

“Truman would fight,” he said, “and fight to win.””

I’m honored to be speaking at the Truman Library this evening. Not only is he one of my heroes, but thanks to my anti-Communist father, he is also the reason for my name! More about that in my talk. Livestream at 6pm local, 7pm ET. https://t.co/NgZtxp8lcv

— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) June 15, 2023

My lecture on the lessons of Harry Truman and the 75th anniversary of the Berlin Airlift is online here. The unity and purpose Truman inspired then is needed more than ever today in standing up for Ukraine. https://t.co/hISDS2hsTw https://t.co/BxtrfQnzYO

— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) June 16, 2023

You can listen to my full speech at the Truman Presidential Library.

And my reply to Kremlin propagandists and sycophants is the same as President Truman’s about his rivals: “I don’t give them hell. I just tell the truth about them and they think it’s hell!” https://t.co/STA24XWNSK

— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) June 15, 2023

Some shots of @Kasparov63 from the first day of the @OsloFF in Norway! Much more to come. All shot on the #nikonz9 #osloforum pic.twitter.com/75NjlIT2Ye

— Inc.Monocle (@IncMonocle) June 13, 2023

Some shots of @Kasparov63 from the first day of the @OsloFF in Norway! Much more to come. All shot on the #nikonz9 #osloforum pic.twitter.com/75NjlIT2Ye

— Inc.Monocle (@IncMonocle) June 13, 2023

Our co-founders @AlinejadMasih @leopoldolopez @Kasparov63 speaking at the Oslo Freedom Forum 2023 pic.twitter.com/yjzmmCnRwD

— WORLD LIBERTY CONGRESS (@WLCongress) June 13, 2023

Ready! https://t.co/sgPdC8c1Uc

— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) June 13, 2023

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— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) June 14, 2023

You can watch the full interview at CNN.

“Russian chess master Garry Kasparov and Evgenia Kara-Murza, wife of jailed opposition activist Vladimir Kara-Murza, talk to CNN Chief International Anchor Christiane Amanpour about Vladimir Putin’s tight grip on Russian society.”