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Dec 02, 2020 04:57AM

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If Kingkiller is really a prologue to a larger world, as he has said multiple times, then quit doing other shit in that world and finish up the prologue. I bet he's either gotten bored and doesn't want to finish it, or has no idea how to finish it.

Seeing how nothing happens in the second book he probably has no idea how to wrap up the story in just one more book but he wrote himself into a corner and has to.


He probably hasn't even started writing book 3. He's also constantly and asshole to the fans of his book series. Isn't a decade enough breathing room?
https://www.newsweek.com/kingkiller-c...

"'Kingkiller Chronicle' Editor Believes Author Hasn't Written Anything for Years"
The editor of the series has "never seen a word of book three."
In a 2017 post, Rothfuss said "the writing isn't going well". Hell, I dont' remember the last time her posted about writing? Was it three years ago?
He's able to write Rick & Morty with D&D, create a real version of Tak, and participate in podcast playing a TTRPG based in the Kingkiller world, but he can't write the book?
At least Scott Lynch was open and honest with his fans back in 2015 when he was going through some mental health issues that the writing wasn't happening. Rothfuss is hanging his fans and his publisher out to dry.
I had such high hopes for more stuff from Rothfuss from book 3 to the proposed movie-TV show-video game tie in with Lin-Manuel Miranda, but that all dissipated years ago. You can't expect fans to keep wanting a book for so long. You bring up Game of Thrones, but does anyone even talk about the next Song of Ice and Fire book any more? It's been just as long since Dance of Dragons came out as Wise Man's Fear.


The book will come when it's written. Not satisfied? Go and write your own.

If that is the case, then does this post belong on a website that is designed to be about his books? Seems like people talking about how they want the next book is more appropriate for this website than the post that it's a comment for. Also, how are people who still want a book they've been waiting almost a decade for ungrateful? There were only 4 years between books 1 and 2, showing that it is possible for him to write faster.
He should be grateful that he still has fans after the lack of progress on the project that brought him those fans in the first place. If it hadn't been for the books, he wouldn't have the base to do any of his other projects, so why does he constantly push the fans of the books to the side to work on other things? This would be the same as a musician who wrote an amazing album, then another extremely well received album, before switching to painting and wondering why every time they have an art show, people ask when they're going to write more music.

Have you forgotten that he's also a human being? There is such a thing as burnout. From personal experience, burnout can come from anything and last an unspecified amount of time. This isn't the 1830's; no one is a slave to you, and no one is forced to write for your amusement. If he doesn't want to write another book, that's his choice. You can't force someone to produce something creative. The results of that would be worse than nothing at all.

He's had a decade of breathing room

You feel important now, but in 50 years, your unfinished series will be forgotten, instead of shared and held up as an important part of fantasy literature.
No one will remember your name

I agree with you Morgan. It never fails to amaze me that people will write mean things, and somehow not realize there is a human being on the other end. I was speaking to my wife last night how much I still look forward to book 3, but I can be patient. Patrick deserves our empathy and patience as much as anyone else in this world. So thank you for being kind. It is refreshing. :)

“ I’m looking forward to the third book,” said one.
Rothfuss replied flatly, “So am I.””

We wrote great things about his actual books. And then spent years giving him the benefit of the doubt whilst he gaslighted us. Remember, he said in his first book, that all three were written, and that's why I started reading them, having just been burnt with 3 other series that failed to finish.
Then, he started getting offensive, and attacking his customers.
And now he posts stuff like this, as if we are a bunch of mindless onlyfans,
he doesn't need his simps defending him

If that is t..."
I'm not happy with the waiting too but just want to point out that in his recent stream he mentioned that he spent years editing book 1 and 2, those 4 years gap you brought up probably mostly spent on editing works.
I think at this point book 3 might or might not happen at all since the published works have diverge too far away from his original version, and even if book 3 come out, the chance that it is on par with book 1 or 2 seem very low, the chance that it can resolve all the hanging threads is abysmal.
With all that in mind, I'd rather the man take as much time as he need to give us his best than a rushed work. A decade of waiting is ridiculous, yes, but it's the reality that we all have to live with. Support him if you can or just ignore him like I do but it's rather pointless to be angry at him for not giving us what he simply dont have (yet, hopefully)

A burnout lasts for 10 years. Interesting.

Yes, there is such a thing as burnout. But if that's the case, then he should be open and honest about it. Like I pointed out earlier, Scott Lynch did so with his series, and I completely understand the delay in his next book because of this. Rothfuss has just ignored book 3 for years now while staying active with every other project that comes across his desk. It's insulting to the fans of his books that put him in the position to take up these other projects.

We're talking about a book that will take up 20 hours of your time vs. a man's wellbeing and privacy, which he is more than entitled to. Harassing creators and insisting they provide updates on the book is really fucking toxic. I'm looking forward to the book as much as anyone, but I'm also looking out for the wellbeing of a brilliant creator who is finding meaning in his life elsewhere right now and that's ok.

WHAT WHAT WHAAAAT?!
Oooo, hahaha, fml
“When you wait a few span or month to hear a finished song, the anticipation adds savor. But after a year excitement begins to sour.
-Kvothe, The Name of the Wind, Ch. 12”
Please announce there will be no third book. Then I can stop recommending the first 2 to all my friends and family whom I said that these 2 books are my favourite off all time.

A man's wellbeing and privacy? The only thing I have seen is some YouTube video where told me to fuck off and die.
Yes he owes us something. If a chef promises me to serve a 3 course meal, But I am kicked out at 11 pm after waiting for 3,5 hours for the dessert, that is shit.
I am not harassing anyone. Sir Pat on the other hand is puking livestreams and YT video's not giving any respect to his fans.

I'd be more satisfied if he put out a novella where some magical bullshit happens that kills Kote somehow so he can't finish the story on day three. At least that would be some closure.

That's a very poor analogy. This isn't a chef fixing you dessert.
This is a mapmaker who has left an empty spot on his map. It's not because he doesn't want to travel, to survey, to explore. There's a million people who give theories about what's hidden in this great unknown, but all they've done is glanced at his maps and deduced that it's obvious. That the journey is easy because they've never undertaken a journey like that before.
But the first thing he came across on the way were mountains blocking the way. Then winter hit and left everything in a sheet of ice. Every step becomes harder, every chill hits deeper. He didn't expect any of this. He thought he had a great idea of what was to come but things change. Even if he makes it to the summit and looks off into the horizon beyond, it doesn't mean he's actually trekked across the land. No good mapmaker would dare say their work is complete without being sure of the lay of the land.
So he stays at base camp. He plays games, waits for safety, tries to make his little camp better for all the people on the journey with him while he bides his time. He gets telegrams wondering where the map is. People who've never been cold or never had to climb an icy mountain asking why it's so hard. He gets fed up a little. No one ever asks how the crew is doing or how he's holding up while he waits for clearer, warmer days. He wonders if it's even worth it. So he sends a few harsh telegrams back.
But he's the one that knows the journey is dangerous. Arduous. Every journey is. He's the one who is going to spend months exploring and crafting. Everyone else is going to study the map for a few hours and put it away again. But no matter what, he wants the map to be right because that's what he does - he makes maps and he makes damn good ones.
So this book matters more to him than you. Artists owe you nothing. Art is hard. It's personal and visceral. Sometimes great artists share things with us, sometimes they don't. Every artist in the world has a collection of unfinished work. In it, there's one that they thought would be their best one yet. And they might get back to it. They may decide that in order to give it the attention it deserves they need to take a break and try out some other things to make sure that it feels authentic and purposeful again.
These aren't spreadsheets. These aren't meals, aren't research papers. They are expressions and they deserve the focus of the artist.
I want book three, too. But I admire Pat. I want him to be happy. To flourish, to raise his boys and to raise money for things he believes in. If this is the artistic path he takes, then it'll be a more accurate, more beautiful map than the one he would haphazardly sketch on the summit. I want him to wait out the winter and travel to every nook and cranny and take the time to make it right. Will he get there? He's a mapmaker. Always has been. All that mysterious terrain will draw him back in when he's ready.


A map maker with an empty spot? No. A genious writer that is more lazy than being genious? Yes.
Yes he owes us something. By selling a book as a part of trilogy a relationship started. A social agreement of sorts. As an artist i make sure not to make promises i cannot keep. Hell, even as a non artist i do that. He is not writing for years. He is arrogant and rude to his fans. The streams are sad. Someone should slap him awake.

Your analogy might work if this mapmaker were making the map only for himself instead of having promised it to a group of people. I would say that Rothfuss made a fake account to write this comment, but that would mean I thought Rothfuss was writing anything these days.

Pat posts a troll post, gets justly flamed, especially hot on the heels of telling thousands of FANS to 'fuck off and die'. then people defend him, using more words than Pat has bothered to write on his 'already written' trilogy conclusion.
It is Cathartic to read other people's disgust and end of patience with the overblown arrogance of someone who has been gifted with an incredible way with words.
I loved the first two books, loved 'slow regard', but really, being told to "die" by an author did (for me) and should end any level of respect or understanding or care that his readers have for his massive failure to complete.
I've had worse experiences. Premature endings can be a messy letdown, but to just give up, lose your mojo, when things are getting interesting is about as embarrassing a male failure as anything can be.

https://youtu.be/XxU-7XiEN30