We all need Something To Look Forward To…

Hey there!


You’ve known it was coming, and now it’s here.


A heaping helping of Worldbuilders EOY goodness.


That’s right. It’s time for the Worldbuilders Fundraiser.


The Fundraiser is running from Dec 1st to Dec 15th, and it’ll be an all-out sprint complete with death-defying obstacle courses, feats of strength, and livestream festivities, and fabulous prizes.


I’m kicking things off with 14 hours of straight livestreaming on my twitch channel.


Kickoff Livestream Schedule that shows what Pat will be doing on 12/1


Also? Special guests!!!


You read that right: I’ll be...

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message 1: by Morgan ♥️ (new)

Morgan ♥️ Marked my calendar! I am very much looking forward to this. :)


message 2: by Jose D (new)

Jose D Please book 3.... I beg you...
And yes, I'll chip in.


message 3: by Ryan (new)

Ryan Kennedy Write a book then ask me for money.


message 4: by Book'Em (new)

Book'Em Franno Yeah.... give us book 3, you cheater.


message 5: by sk3erkrou (new)

sk3erkrou Feels like he wrote just enough to make a big enough name for himself to get enough fans to donate to his charities so he could give up writing. Look at his history in school, started a number of things but never finished them, just like The Kingkiller Chronicles. I'm not even sure I'm interested in reading book 3 anymore with how long it's been.

If Kingkiller is really a prologue to a larger world, as he has said multiple times, then quit doing other shit in that world and finish up the prologue. I bet he's either gotten bored and doesn't want to finish it, or has no idea how to finish it.


message 6: by Book'Em (new)

Book'Em Franno It’s gotta be number two - expectations raised too high


message 7: by Ryan (new)

Ryan Kennedy Kyle wrote: "Feels like he wrote just enough to make a big enough name for himself to get enough fans to donate to his charities so he could give up writing. Look at his history in school, started a number of t..."

Seeing how nothing happens in the second book he probably has no idea how to wrap up the story in just one more book but he wrote himself into a corner and has to.


message 8: by Leslie (new)

Leslie I support you! Looks fun!


message 9: by Nilo (new)

Nilo Silva Are you ever going to write book 3?


message 10: by Morgan ♥️ (new)

Morgan ♥️ Stop bugging about book 3 guys. It will be out when it's out :) we don't want another Game of Thrones TV show ending but in book form, do we? Give the man some breathing room.


message 11: by Nilo (new)

Nilo Silva Morgan ♥️ wrote: "Stop bugging about book 3 guys. It will be out when it's out :) we don't want another Game of Thrones TV show ending but in book form, do we? Give the man some breathing room."

He probably hasn't even started writing book 3. He's also constantly and asshole to the fans of his book series. Isn't a decade enough breathing room?

https://www.newsweek.com/kingkiller-c...


message 12: by sk3erkrou (new)

sk3erkrou Morgan ♥️ wrote: "Stop bugging about book 3 guys. It will be out when it's out :) we don't want another Game of Thrones TV show ending but in book form, do we? Give the man some breathing room."

"'Kingkiller Chronicle' Editor Believes Author Hasn't Written Anything for Years"

The editor of the series has "never seen a word of book three."

In a 2017 post, Rothfuss said "the writing isn't going well". Hell, I dont' remember the last time her posted about writing? Was it three years ago?

He's able to write Rick & Morty with D&D, create a real version of Tak, and participate in podcast playing a TTRPG based in the Kingkiller world, but he can't write the book?

At least Scott Lynch was open and honest with his fans back in 2015 when he was going through some mental health issues that the writing wasn't happening. Rothfuss is hanging his fans and his publisher out to dry.

I had such high hopes for more stuff from Rothfuss from book 3 to the proposed movie-TV show-video game tie in with Lin-Manuel Miranda, but that all dissipated years ago. You can't expect fans to keep wanting a book for so long. You bring up Game of Thrones, but does anyone even talk about the next Song of Ice and Fire book any more? It's been just as long since Dance of Dragons came out as Wise Man's Fear.


message 13: by Michael (new)

Michael Seman Your fans used to look forward to you releasing a third book. But we all know that’s literally not going to happen. considering you aren’t even an author any more, I’m no longer a fan. Unfollow


message 14: by Samuel (new)

Samuel You ungrateful bunch of malcontents. Post your spurious whining elsewhere, or don't say it at all—forget about the fact that this post isn't even related to his books. At least have the common decency to say thank you for once—for ONCE. Not only has Pat addressed the petulant poking of his so called "adoring" fans ad nauseam, but when he tries to include them in other projects (because god forbid he works on something other than his books), all they can appreciate is the lack of further progress.

The book will come when it's written. Not satisfied? Go and write your own.


message 15: by sk3erkrou (new)

sk3erkrou Samuel wrote: "You ungrateful bunch of malcontents. Post your spurious whining elsewhere, or don't say it at all—forget about the fact that this post isn't even related to his books."

If that is the case, then does this post belong on a website that is designed to be about his books? Seems like people talking about how they want the next book is more appropriate for this website than the post that it's a comment for. Also, how are people who still want a book they've been waiting almost a decade for ungrateful? There were only 4 years between books 1 and 2, showing that it is possible for him to write faster.

He should be grateful that he still has fans after the lack of progress on the project that brought him those fans in the first place. If it hadn't been for the books, he wouldn't have the base to do any of his other projects, so why does he constantly push the fans of the books to the side to work on other things? This would be the same as a musician who wrote an amazing album, then another extremely well received album, before switching to painting and wondering why every time they have an art show, people ask when they're going to write more music.


message 16: by Morgan ♥️ (new)

Morgan ♥️ Samuel wrote: "You ungrateful bunch of malcontents. Post your spurious whining elsewhere, or don't say it at all—forget about the fact that this post isn't even related to his books. At least have the common dece..."

Have you forgotten that he's also a human being? There is such a thing as burnout. From personal experience, burnout can come from anything and last an unspecified amount of time. This isn't the 1830's; no one is a slave to you, and no one is forced to write for your amusement. If he doesn't want to write another book, that's his choice. You can't force someone to produce something creative. The results of that would be worse than nothing at all.


message 17: by Matt Tractenberg (new)

Matt Tractenberg Isn’t this scheduled for December 1st? Why would I get this notification on December 5th?


message 18: by Jeroen (new)

Jeroen Seynaeve Morgan ♥️ wrote: "Stop bugging about book 3 guys. It will be out when it's out :) we don't want another Game of Thrones TV show ending but in book form, do we? Give the man some breathing room."

He's had a decade of breathing room


message 19: by Flow (new)

Flow In you are kidding, right?

You feel important now, but in 50 years, your unfinished series will be forgotten, instead of shared and held up as an important part of fantasy literature.

No one will remember your name


message 20: by Jerry (new)

Jerry Caldwell Morgan ♥️ wrote: "Stop bugging about book 3 guys. It will be out when it's out :) we don't want another Game of Thrones TV show ending but in book form, do we? Give the man some breathing room."

I agree with you Morgan. It never fails to amaze me that people will write mean things, and somehow not realize there is a human being on the other end. I was speaking to my wife last night how much I still look forward to book 3, but I can be patient. Patrick deserves our empathy and patience as much as anyone else in this world. So thank you for being kind. It is refreshing. :)


message 21: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia I think he’s burnt out
“ I’m looking forward to the third book,” said one.

Rothfuss replied flatly, “So am I.””


message 22: by Flow (new)

Flow In Twerking wrote: "Samuel wrote: "You ungrateful bunch of malcontents. Post your spurious whining elsewhere, or don't say it at all—forget about the fact that this post isn't even related to his books. At least have ..."

We wrote great things about his actual books. And then spent years giving him the benefit of the doubt whilst he gaslighted us. Remember, he said in his first book, that all three were written, and that's why I started reading them, having just been burnt with 3 other series that failed to finish.

Then, he started getting offensive, and attacking his customers.

And now he posts stuff like this, as if we are a bunch of mindless onlyfans,

he doesn't need his simps defending him


message 23: by Cuong (last edited Dec 07, 2020 01:08AM) (new)

Cuong Le Cao Kyle wrote: "Samuel wrote: "You ungrateful bunch of malcontents. Post your spurious whining elsewhere, or don't say it at all—forget about the fact that this post isn't even related to his books."

If that is t..."


I'm not happy with the waiting too but just want to point out that in his recent stream he mentioned that he spent years editing book 1 and 2, those 4 years gap you brought up probably mostly spent on editing works.
I think at this point book 3 might or might not happen at all since the published works have diverge too far away from his original version, and even if book 3 come out, the chance that it is on par with book 1 or 2 seem very low, the chance that it can resolve all the hanging threads is abysmal.

With all that in mind, I'd rather the man take as much time as he need to give us his best than a rushed work. A decade of waiting is ridiculous, yes, but it's the reality that we all have to live with. Support him if you can or just ignore him like I do but it's rather pointless to be angry at him for not giving us what he simply dont have (yet, hopefully)


message 24: by Ishaan (new)

Ishaan Morgan ♥️ wrote: "Samuel wrote: "You ungrateful bunch of malcontents. Post your spurious whining elsewhere, or don't say it at all—forget about the fact that this post isn't even related to his books. At least have ..."

A burnout lasts for 10 years. Interesting.


message 25: by sk3erkrou (new)

sk3erkrou Morgan ♥️ wrote: "Have you forgotten that he's also a human being? There is such a thing as burnout. From personal experience, burnout can come from anything and last an unspecified amount of time.

Yes, there is such a thing as burnout. But if that's the case, then he should be open and honest about it. Like I pointed out earlier, Scott Lynch did so with his series, and I completely understand the delay in his next book because of this. Rothfuss has just ignored book 3 for years now while staying active with every other project that comes across his desk. It's insulting to the fans of his books that put him in the position to take up these other projects.


message 26: by Brad (new)

Brad Pretty Being an artist of any sort is a volatile thing. Artists also do not owe anyone anything. It is incumbent upon them to create to the best of their abilities and sometimes creation is fostered best by throwing yourself into other things for awhile. The best work comes from meaning, whether it is the search for it or drawing from the realization of it. Yes, he owes a book to his publisher, but he doesn't owe anything to the people who want not just a book but a book that he's happy with.

We're talking about a book that will take up 20 hours of your time vs. a man's wellbeing and privacy, which he is more than entitled to. Harassing creators and insisting they provide updates on the book is really fucking toxic. I'm looking forward to the book as much as anyone, but I'm also looking out for the wellbeing of a brilliant creator who is finding meaning in his life elsewhere right now and that's ok.


message 27: by Yannick (new)

Yannick "You’ve known it was coming, and now it’s here."

WHAT WHAT WHAAAAT?!

Oooo, hahaha, fml

“When you wait a few span or month to hear a finished song, the anticipation adds savor. But after a year excitement begins to sour.

-Kvothe, The Name of the Wind, Ch. 12”


Please announce there will be no third book. Then I can stop recommending the first 2 to all my friends and family whom I said that these 2 books are my favourite off all time.


message 28: by Yannick (new)

Yannick Brad wrote: "Being an artist of any sort is a volatile thing. Artists also do not owe anyone anything. It is incumbent upon them to create to the best of their abilities and sometimes creation is fostered best ..."

A man's wellbeing and privacy? The only thing I have seen is some YouTube video where told me to fuck off and die.

Yes he owes us something. If a chef promises me to serve a 3 course meal, But I am kicked out at 11 pm after waiting for 3,5 hours for the dessert, that is shit.

I am not harassing anyone. Sir Pat on the other hand is puking livestreams and YT video's not giving any respect to his fans.


message 29: by sk3erkrou (last edited Dec 08, 2020 09:19AM) (new)

sk3erkrou Yannick wrote: "Please announce there will be no third book. Then I can stop recommending the first 2 to all my friends and family whom I said that these 2 books are my favourite off all time."

I'd be more satisfied if he put out a novella where some magical bullshit happens that kills Kote somehow so he can't finish the story on day three. At least that would be some closure.


message 30: by Brad (last edited Dec 08, 2020 02:13PM) (new)

Brad Pretty Yannick wrote: "Brad wrote: "Being an artist of any sort is a volatile thing. Artists also do not owe anyone anything. It is incumbent upon them to create to the best of their abilities and sometimes creation is f..."

That's a very poor analogy. This isn't a chef fixing you dessert.

This is a mapmaker who has left an empty spot on his map. It's not because he doesn't want to travel, to survey, to explore. There's a million people who give theories about what's hidden in this great unknown, but all they've done is glanced at his maps and deduced that it's obvious. That the journey is easy because they've never undertaken a journey like that before.

But the first thing he came across on the way were mountains blocking the way. Then winter hit and left everything in a sheet of ice. Every step becomes harder, every chill hits deeper. He didn't expect any of this. He thought he had a great idea of what was to come but things change. Even if he makes it to the summit and looks off into the horizon beyond, it doesn't mean he's actually trekked across the land. No good mapmaker would dare say their work is complete without being sure of the lay of the land.

So he stays at base camp. He plays games, waits for safety, tries to make his little camp better for all the people on the journey with him while he bides his time. He gets telegrams wondering where the map is. People who've never been cold or never had to climb an icy mountain asking why it's so hard. He gets fed up a little. No one ever asks how the crew is doing or how he's holding up while he waits for clearer, warmer days. He wonders if it's even worth it. So he sends a few harsh telegrams back.

But he's the one that knows the journey is dangerous. Arduous. Every journey is. He's the one who is going to spend months exploring and crafting. Everyone else is going to study the map for a few hours and put it away again. But no matter what, he wants the map to be right because that's what he does - he makes maps and he makes damn good ones.

So this book matters more to him than you. Artists owe you nothing. Art is hard. It's personal and visceral. Sometimes great artists share things with us, sometimes they don't. Every artist in the world has a collection of unfinished work. In it, there's one that they thought would be their best one yet. And they might get back to it. They may decide that in order to give it the attention it deserves they need to take a break and try out some other things to make sure that it feels authentic and purposeful again.

These aren't spreadsheets. These aren't meals, aren't research papers. They are expressions and they deserve the focus of the artist.

I want book three, too. But I admire Pat. I want him to be happy. To flourish, to raise his boys and to raise money for things he believes in. If this is the artistic path he takes, then it'll be a more accurate, more beautiful map than the one he would haphazardly sketch on the summit. I want him to wait out the winter and travel to every nook and cranny and take the time to make it right. Will he get there? He's a mapmaker. Always has been. All that mysterious terrain will draw him back in when he's ready.


message 31: by Oliver (new)

Oliver Marti I'm not disenchanted, it was so clear for me that the title was just clickbaiting for Worldbuilders. Not that it is a bad project, but...man... it's been like 14 years since book one. And yes, that sucks. You should give your fans what they are eagerly waiting for and invest the time into Worldbuilders as soon as the trilogy is finished. Remember that most of your very first teenage readers have now kids by themselfs, don't read fantasy anymore or are already dead...


message 32: by Yannick (new)

Yannick Brad wrote: "Yannick wrote: "Brad wrote: "Being an artist of any sort is a volatile thing. Artists also do not owe anyone anything. It is incumbent upon them to create to the best of their abilities and sometim..."

A map maker with an empty spot? No. A genious writer that is more lazy than being genious? Yes.

Yes he owes us something. By selling a book as a part of trilogy a relationship started. A social agreement of sorts. As an artist i make sure not to make promises i cannot keep. Hell, even as a non artist i do that. He is not writing for years. He is arrogant and rude to his fans. The streams are sad. Someone should slap him awake.


message 33: by sk3erkrou (new)

sk3erkrou Brad wrote: "Yannick wrote: "Brad wrote: "This is a mapmaker who has left an empty spot on his map. It's not because he doesn't want to travel, to survey, to explore. There's a million people who give theories about what's hidden in this great unknown, but all they've done is glanced at his maps and deduced that it's obvious. That the journey is easy because they've never undertaken a journey like that before."

Your analogy might work if this mapmaker were making the map only for himself instead of having promised it to a group of people. I would say that Rothfuss made a fake account to write this comment, but that would mean I thought Rothfuss was writing anything these days.


message 34: by Flow (new)

Flow In This is the most fun I've had with anything related to the name of the wind for.... decades.

Pat posts a troll post, gets justly flamed, especially hot on the heels of telling thousands of FANS to 'fuck off and die'. then people defend him, using more words than Pat has bothered to write on his 'already written' trilogy conclusion.

It is Cathartic to read other people's disgust and end of patience with the overblown arrogance of someone who has been gifted with an incredible way with words.

I loved the first two books, loved 'slow regard', but really, being told to "die" by an author did (for me) and should end any level of respect or understanding or care that his readers have for his massive failure to complete.

I've had worse experiences. Premature endings can be a messy letdown, but to just give up, lose your mojo, when things are getting interesting is about as embarrassing a male failure as anything can be.


message 35: by Julia (last edited Dec 17, 2020 05:33AM) (new)

Julia Did anyone watch this livestream? What was said in the 8 - 9 pm block? (Re: book three)


message 36: by Ishaan (new)

Ishaan Julia wrote: "Did anyone watch this the livestream? What was said in the 8 - 9 pm block? (Re: book three)"

https://youtu.be/XxU-7XiEN30


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