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If i don like a book I will always try to explain WHY. And normally I will be able to find at least 1 point about it that I liked.


That's why no matter what I'm always trying to be nice, helpful and respectful even in the face all the underhanded bruhaha.
As to the reviewing... because I AM an author, I don't feel its my place to slam anyone elses hard work publicly, but there have been times that when I LOVE a book I will review it because it DOES help the author out. It upsets me that so many bloggers-turned-authors still think its acceptable to snark on books and give hellish reviews. What they fail to realize that they are alienating their now contemporaries and all that's going to do is cause a rift between people that shouldn't be there. Bottom line, if I don't like a book I just don't say anything and I'm also not the kinda author that will blow sunshine up your butt.You ask point blank if I liked it, I'll tell you straight up, but I wont ever publicly post about it. its just being mean for means sake, and there's already far too much of that going around.

But if just writing them is useful, why post them to sites like Goodreads? I see a lot of commenters- usually acting like trolls, it should be mentioned- who ask those who write negative reviews why they even bothered. This is my answer: If you don't come out and honestly, publicly say that you hated something and WHY, you are twisting the market information that aspiring authors will see. Knowing the market is one of the tidbits of advice I've heard repeated over and over from published writers, but I think it goes deeper than that: you need to know not only what's being published but how it's recieved and, if it gets criticized, why. Learn not only from your personal mistakes but from the mistakes of others.
I do think this is good advice, but I think it's too general. Ad hominem attacks are out of line; negative reviews are necessary. Not recognizing that in this blog makes me think maybe Ms. Fitzpatrick is reacting to some negative reviews she's read lately... if so, I'm inclined to agree with Hellion.


Hear, hear. To say we should only review books we loved would do a huge disservice to this site. There would be no point in reading any reviews because every book would have 5 stars. That's why there ARE stars! It's disgusting to think that authors don't want people to be honest about their feelings and criticisms. A negative review should only make you work harder, or, if that review is so far off base, just ignore it and go about your day like a big girl.
I'd like to point anyone who's interested in what another author thinks to this post:
http://www.ilona-andrews.com/2011/01/...
I swear I'm posting that link all over the place today, but really, it's my favorite view of an author on this subject. And you know what? She's also a member on here, and I've seen her give 1 star to a book. We all read crappy books from time to time. Some of us even get angry about it. But we write our review so our friends and peers can see how we felt, and then we move onto the next book we can get our grubby paws on, hoping it will be better than the last.

But hey, whatever the case--bottom line is, your publisher loved it. And it's out there to be reviewed.

What is this, 1984 or Fahrenheit 451?

This is a thinly veiled scare tactic and sorry, NOBODY is having it. If I think your work sucks, I will say it, and I will say it proudly - and I have the right to if I paid my hard earned money on what ultimately not only turned out to be deeply unsatisfying, but incredibly troubling.
On top of having mediocre writing, your books are a never ending parade of rape-glorification and slut-shaming. And you DON'T think people are going to speak up?
But really, this is a really annoying trend I see from a lot of YA writers. So much fucking whining about bad reviews - as long as there've been writers and artists of all kinds, they've had to endure criticism, some nice, some not so nice, some downright mean. Fucking SHAKESPEARE had people heckling him - what the hell makes YOU so special?
Get over yourself, suck it up, and be glad that you're in the position where lots of people all over the world CAN read and review your work. For God's sake.
Normally I don't post in online discussions such as this. But, I'm going to break my own rule for today. Day in and day out I see people that seem to think that posting an online scathing trashy review is actually expressing your opinion. How odd that in a post where the person is saying 'be nice' some folks choose to be so rude about their opinions. Here is a clue folks; the ruder you are about your opinion the less likely you are to be taken seriously.
Look nobody is saying you can't have your opinion. If you all read the blog entry above, Mrs. Fitzpatrick CLEARLY says so and even suggest one way to do it. Everyone should you have an opinion but you should express it in a way that would be a benefit to the author, and her/his work. Nobody ever learn from flattery alone. However, when you use a scathing way to express your opinion it becomes extremely difficult to identify your real issue with the book. Try treating others the way YOU like to be treated. Do you want to read a bunch of insults about your work? Or would you prefer to points of characterization and plot that made the book not such a fun read? Try seating yourself in the receiving end of the review and stop proclaiming to the world your right to say whatever you like. Yes, we all get it you, and everyone else has freedom of speech, but having it doesn’t mean that you have to be rude about your opinion. Try being tactful and respectful and I can honestly say that your opinion may end up being one of the most important reviews that the author may have received.
Again, express your opinion in a way that we can all identify the controversial, failing or weak points of the books. It help others to later determined if the book could be right or wrong for them based on the things you said. However, when you launch personal attacks towards the author, and do a healthy trash of the book the review becomes laughable and in all honesty not worth to be taken seriously. So yes ‘be nice’ so authors can understand what could be the weakest points of their books; and where do they need to improve. Because by telling them that they suck, don’t know how to write, or that they have a hidden agenda you insult them and quite honestly it says more about you, than about the book.
Don’t expect to burn everyone with your words and get compliments in return. Life doesn’t work that way.
Look nobody is saying you can't have your opinion. If you all read the blog entry above, Mrs. Fitzpatrick CLEARLY says so and even suggest one way to do it. Everyone should you have an opinion but you should express it in a way that would be a benefit to the author, and her/his work. Nobody ever learn from flattery alone. However, when you use a scathing way to express your opinion it becomes extremely difficult to identify your real issue with the book. Try treating others the way YOU like to be treated. Do you want to read a bunch of insults about your work? Or would you prefer to points of characterization and plot that made the book not such a fun read? Try seating yourself in the receiving end of the review and stop proclaiming to the world your right to say whatever you like. Yes, we all get it you, and everyone else has freedom of speech, but having it doesn’t mean that you have to be rude about your opinion. Try being tactful and respectful and I can honestly say that your opinion may end up being one of the most important reviews that the author may have received.
Again, express your opinion in a way that we can all identify the controversial, failing or weak points of the books. It help others to later determined if the book could be right or wrong for them based on the things you said. However, when you launch personal attacks towards the author, and do a healthy trash of the book the review becomes laughable and in all honesty not worth to be taken seriously. So yes ‘be nice’ so authors can understand what could be the weakest points of their books; and where do they need to improve. Because by telling them that they suck, don’t know how to write, or that they have a hidden agenda you insult them and quite honestly it says more about you, than about the book.
Don’t expect to burn everyone with your words and get compliments in return. Life doesn’t work that way.

What Fitzpatrick called for here was for people to censor their reviews to please her vanity. As an author she should be particularly ashamed of this. Reviews, negative or positive -- one hundred words long or one thousand are valid because it was how someone thought and felt after reading what she wrote.

Just wanted to address this - I don't write reviews for authors. I write them for other readers. People that may have the same taste in something as me. Someone that is looking forward to a book and may end up being just as excited, or disappointed, as me.
If I didn't like something, I am going to say it. I always try to explain why I didn't like something, the same as I do for something I liked - and if that helps the author, then great. But it's not for the author. That's not my purpose in writing it. In my opinion, that's not the reason for any review.
Something to help the author would be a critique - and I've done these as well, many times - which is a much more detailed thing from me.
@The Holy Terror - that blog post from Ilona Andrews is perhaps one of my favorite author posts on this subject ever.
@Ridley - Just gotta say, I agree: Without negative reviews, positive reviews are meaningless.
Does it really matter how many points she gave to the book? I don't think so. I also see no point where she says she's superior to anyone else. The point I clearly see is that the person who had writen the review lied about her appretiation for the author's work. How is that being nice and honest. It puts the author in a very uncomfortable position because it's a massive conflict of interest that with either outcome it reflects very negative on her character. Taking the 'high road' was about the only choice I see there. However, the experience should serve those who want to be published as a lesson: It's not what you say, it's how you say it.
I think people greatly missed the mesage here. This isn't a post about negative reviews. This is a post of advice to those who wished to be published. You want to be published? Don't burn bridges before you get there. If you must write a negative review do so tactfully and respectfully. Honestly that is great advice that needs to be heard. The only way someone would feel hostility after reading this is if readers see rude and scatching as the only way to express a negative opinion about a book.
I think people greatly missed the mesage here. This isn't a post about negative reviews. This is a post of advice to those who wished to be published. You want to be published? Don't burn bridges before you get there. If you must write a negative review do so tactfully and respectfully. Honestly that is great advice that needs to be heard. The only way someone would feel hostility after reading this is if readers see rude and scatching as the only way to express a negative opinion about a book.

Yes, this is a post of advice about getting published, but it is also a post about negative reviews. And in that respect it's expressing what seems to many readers an immature attitude towards them. The people who are hostile in reaction to this are those who write reasonable, critical reviews and feel dismissed by Fitzpatrick's rather pithy phrasing.
She also suggests dropping books that you don't like, which is frustrating to people who make a point of finishing such books for the express purpose of writing critical, reasonable responses.

By suggesting you drop a book if you don't like it she is essentially telling reviewers to keep their mouths shut and move along. Since most of these novels range between 15-20 dollars that's a lot to dispose on books you may or may not be able to complete.

Just wondering, where are the mean reviews of Hush, Hush? I've seen honest reviews, people telling how disgusted they are with this book. But never anyone personally insulting the author.
Maybe you don't see the point. Fitzpatrick is whining because people are pointing out the rape culture that's she enabling and romanticizing with her books.
This isn't to say an aspiring author can't be honest when writing reviews, but if your goal is to be published, it might serve you well to drop the books you don't love, and talk up the ones you do. You don't have to love every book, every time. But I think a bit of courtesy in saying, “This wasn't for me, and here's why,” says volumes about you as a reviewer and a person. No one wants to start their career surrounded by nothing but a lot of burned bridges.
I'm quoting this part because again and again the point of the author keeps on getting missed. Drop the books you don't love. Absolutely! Why oh why with so many wonderful books to read should you must gripe and whine about the ones you don't like? Why spend so much time on something that simply wasn't for you? Toss it and keep on going, folks life is way too short by spending it surrounded by negative thoughts and things. It wasn't your cup of tea? How about donating the book to the library, or to a shelter? Maybe it wasn't your cup of tea, but it can be of entretainment for someone else that direly needs an hour of escape or laughter.
If you *really* want to write a negative review then go ahead. The author does not say no don't do it, on the contrary she says to do so but says to 'be nice', tactful. However, think about how you want others to perceive you. Do you want a complete stranger to look at your history and see most of them as a string of negative views? If that's okay with you, then carry on. But if you want to be published then perhaps that is not the way to go.
As for the rape part I'm not going to discuss that. See no reason too. First it would be putting words on the author's mouth and assuming. Doing either it makes me feel uncomfortable and simply stearing on the wrong direction. It seemed clear to me that the author is giving advice to aspiring authors, not readers.
I'm quoting this part because again and again the point of the author keeps on getting missed. Drop the books you don't love. Absolutely! Why oh why with so many wonderful books to read should you must gripe and whine about the ones you don't like? Why spend so much time on something that simply wasn't for you? Toss it and keep on going, folks life is way too short by spending it surrounded by negative thoughts and things. It wasn't your cup of tea? How about donating the book to the library, or to a shelter? Maybe it wasn't your cup of tea, but it can be of entretainment for someone else that direly needs an hour of escape or laughter.
If you *really* want to write a negative review then go ahead. The author does not say no don't do it, on the contrary she says to do so but says to 'be nice', tactful. However, think about how you want others to perceive you. Do you want a complete stranger to look at your history and see most of them as a string of negative views? If that's okay with you, then carry on. But if you want to be published then perhaps that is not the way to go.
As for the rape part I'm not going to discuss that. See no reason too. First it would be putting words on the author's mouth and assuming. Doing either it makes me feel uncomfortable and simply stearing on the wrong direction. It seemed clear to me that the author is giving advice to aspiring authors, not readers.
*aspiring authors* Apologies for the omision.

b) Personally, my average rating on Goodreads is over 4 stars, so I'm not worried about someone looking at my history and seeing only negative reviews. And some things need to be criticized flat-out, bluntly; portrayals of heroes who act like rapists but are stated to be the heroine's 'true love' are, IMHO, one of those things. If saying so will keep me from getting published, then I'm frankly not sure that this is an industry I want to be published in; I'll write for myself and make my living elsewhere. But I don't think that writing negative reviews will keep me from getting published, and I don't think that writing only positive ones will help me. And the way I'm reading it, this does seem to be Fitzpatrick's assertion.

Academia seems to be okay with peer review, so why so many twisted knickers in the fiction world over author written reviews?


Honestly, I wonder if you want to email Goodreads and ask them to remove the 1,2, and 3 star features. It would save a lot of rich published authors a whole of tears at night.
My average review rating is somewhere like 2.45. If it were above 4 something would be wrong. You're bound to read books you don't like, and not rating and reviewing them is stupid. Why would I put a book down that I didn't like if I bought it, then refuse to review it?
Thank you Lindsey, I was beginning to wonder if anyone out there read that entry the same way I did.

No one is being 'put down' here. A published work is being read critically and reviewed accordingly. This isn't fanfiction.net where you ought to say something constructive about everything, no matter how bad, because the writer is putting themselves out there in the hopes of improving what they do. These are reviews of PUBLISHED works writeen by people who PAID for the books. Lindsey, you don't think it's slightly over the top to say you're going to have to live with yourself for laughing? This isn't third grade and you're not laughing at someone's sneakers! The author is NOT eight years old. These books were legitimately edited and someone decided they were suitable for publishing. God, Fitzpatrick decided that when she started querying agents.
Seriously, what is it you think about professional film and book critiques? Big meanies? They serve no purpose in society clealy. When an author writes trite, cliche, plot-hole galore, repetitive, anti-feminist garbage they should get an A for Effort. It's not like you paid for the experience of reading it, except you did and not just with money.
We can dislike books without being threatened by the author or condesended to by her fans.

No one is saying that we agree with personal and brutal attacks on the author themselves, but the published work is fair game. Well thought-out critical reviews are certainly preferrable to pure negative scathing ones, but not everyone has the same exact idea of what is a "critical" review.
Everyone is different and everyone has the right to express their opinion, whether someone else thinks it is nice or not. "Nice" is a pretty vague term, in fact. Especially, if you watch The Office and know the kinds of things Kevin uses it for.



And that, my friends, is how all good dystopian stories begin...

Look guys, just read it and then, with an open mind, try reading some of the one and two star reviews. I'm pretty sure you're going to agree with several of the points made in those reviews. You can rate it four or five stars to "be nice" or you can give it what you honestly think it deserves when held up to the light against some of your favorite novels.


Just an observation.

Also, Lindsey, I think your child analogy is completely off the mark. You would do better to think of an analogy involving a job, because that's what Fitzpatrick's books are. A job. Are you trying to say her colleagues should "be nice" when she does her work so badly that it brings down the performance assessment of the entire team?

So we don't have the right to review books and give our honest opinion on them if it isn't "nice"? Wow, I expected this from fangirls, but from an author? Not good.

Joyzi (littlemissya) wrote: "We have the right to review books however we should do it nicely because we might encounter that author we have given a negative review and she might take revenge, you know, thus you won't be publi..."
LOL, utterly ridiculous. This, a site where people review and discuss books, is the last place i'd expect to find this blog.
LOL, utterly ridiculous. This, a site where people review and discuss books, is the last place i'd expect to find this blog.


Please, remind me about the money I'm lifting off the poor bullied kid. Because you know, I'm getting nothing from writing my reviews. You guys can say it's mean, but in the end Fitzpatrick and co are walking off when thousands in their pockets off of people who call this stuff literature.
I wonder about the intelligence of certain people when they can't see the difference between bullying and critiquing. I could have spent that money helping starving children. I think every time I think about buying a book that romanticizes rape, I'll donate to a charity. That's a much more worthy cause.
I'm so sorry you think I'm a bully. Because last time I checked, a bully had power. Who has the power here? Me or Fitzpatrick? Think about that.
You can dislike a book respectfully without being cruel about it. That is all she’s saying!
What do you mean by this anyway? What's the right way to write a negative review? Can you please link to a nice negative review? Or is there no such thing?


Says a lot about your position, really.

Maybe you should rethink you outlook on life if you believe that we're being mean to you. Nice that you've done that shit. So, has writing negative reviews prevented you from being published?
In italics is your words Lindsey, not mine.

In all seriousness, I don't think you're going to read it and think 'these are the life lessons I'd really love my twelve and up year old daughter to take froma book.'

...and this says all anyone needs to know about the "only write nice reviews" camp.
Epic, just epic.

Ridley: ...and this says all anyone needs to know about the "only write nice reviews" camp.
Epic, just epic.
Honestly, just thinking the same thing. The biggest supporters of this 'be nice' business are people who haven't read Fitzpatrick's books and who believe karma lurking around the corner with a mallet is the only worthwhile incentive to be a good person.

I just don't know how you can want to live in the sort of world where people play nice even about things they think are bad. Strong feelings are what make life worth living, be them positive or negative. I think first you've got to pick up a copy of 1984 to get an indepth literary idea of censorship and then perhaps a copy of The Giver to get an idea of a world without strong feelings, good and bad.
