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MISCELLANEOUS TOPICS > The 5G network: Are safety concerns valid? And how will 5G change things? And what about 6G and 7G in future?

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message 51: by Harry (new)

Harry Whitewolf | 1745 comments Iain wrote: "There's your faux justification for a trade-off against health issues(if 5G is as harmful as they claim it is or will be?)"

Yes indeedy.


message 52: by Harry (new)

Harry Whitewolf | 1745 comments James wrote: "Harry wrote: ""Don't worry Harry, I have good news! There is no need to worry, you can go back to trusting your government, as 7G is going to be bloody fantastic with none of the bad side effects of 5g or 6g! Only downside is 7G won't be released until 2037AD... "

Gee......


message 53: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments 5G Research Report 2019: The enterprise is eager to adopt, despite cost concerns and availability http://www.techproresearch.com/downlo...


message 54: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Radiofrequency expert warns 5G radiation could be carcinogenic | https://thewest.com.au/news/health/ra...


message 55: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Can they use 5G technology for mind control? https://steemit.com/conspiracy/@debzd...


message 56: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1422 comments 5G for cars. Hey, 6G being around the corner means your car will become unusable and you will have t buy another. Sam with fridges, whatever. A multinational's dream!


message 57: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments The 5G Conspiracy, Radiofrequency Radiation, & Eco-Genocide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bsq0V...


message 58: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1422 comments Iain wrote: "Breaking into Huawei’s 5G tech castle - BBC News

Huawei is facing allegations that its next generation 5G equipment could pose a national security risk. There are concerns that China is using Huaw..."


This has been alleged for some time. The news here is the UK authority charged with looking into this has stated these concerns can be managed. Another opinion is that the NSA is probably going to do it anyway, and the Chinese equipment might just be easier to manage because everyone is suspicious of the Chinese, while they ignore everyone else. The obvious thing is not to commit security-related messages to the mobile network.


message 59: by James, Group Founder (last edited Mar 12, 2019 03:04AM) (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Yeah, it's pretty hilarious how the Chinese and Russians have suddenly become so much more untrustworthy or darker than the likes of the CIA, NSA, MOSSAD or MI5/6! I must've missed the part where the Western intelligence agencies changed their ways and become saintly...

Granted we in the West need to keep an eye on foreign enemies, especially in regard to foreign inventions in the tech sector. However, the jury is still out on whether the biggest enemies for peace are foreign or internal...The track record since WW2 hasn't been too good on the latter.


message 60: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Iain wrote: "South Korea first to roll out 5G services, beating U.S. and China

SEOUL (Reuters) - South Korea will become the first country to commercially launch fifth-generation (5G) services on Friday as it ..."


Imagine if it was North Korea that were first?!


message 61: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments What the...

The capital city of the EU bans 5G?!

Radiation concerns halt Brussels 5G development, for now http://www.brusselstimes.com/brussels...
Plans for a pilot project to provide high-speed 5G wireless internet in Brussels have been halted due to fears for the health of citizens, according to reports.

"I cannot welcome such technology if the radiation standards, which must protect the citizen, are not respected, 5G or not," Environment minister Céline Fremault (CDH) told Bruzz. "The people of Brussels are not guinea pigs whose health I can sell at a profit. We cannot leave anything to doubt," she added.

Brussels Becomes First Major City to Halt 5G Due to Health Effects https://takebackyourpower.net/brussel...


message 62: by James, Group Founder (last edited Apr 04, 2019 04:15PM) (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Iain wrote: "Interesting the divide and debate happening at that level so early in its deployment, and when you consider the money involved and potentially generated; they usually conveniently drag their heels and then try to make amends about 20 years later..."

From conspiracy kooks and underground tinfoil nuts to the mainstream, mate!
You heard about 5G concerns right here in the Underground first!
But...you also heard about Santos and the Hollow Earth here too (no system is perfect)


message 63: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Yes, I thought of the same thing: it could be using health fears as an excuse to make some sort of political or economic move...Especially as Asian manufacturers seem to have gotten the jump on 5G tech, especially the Chinese but also South Koreans.

So I guess this could be a way to delay things until the West catches up. And the highly-influential Brussels making the first move could be a signal to the EU and rest of the West.

But I'm sticking with this being another conspiracy gone mainstream :)


message 64: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Iain wrote: "not in favor here, but looking at it from their angle..."

That's EXACTLY what a mole working for the EU agenda on behalf of the SNP who has been paid to infiltrate the Underground, would say!


message 65: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments A 5G Wireless Apocalypse?!

5G Wireless Apocalypse: The RF Health-Risk Conspiracy https://www.audioholics.com/editorial...


message 66: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments PROMINENT BIOCHEMISTRY PROFESSOR WARNS – 5G IS THE ‘STUPIDEST IDEA IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD’
http://drleonardcoldwell.com/prominen...


message 67: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Dunno whether this is tinfoil hat paranoia, truth or something in between...

5G APOCALYPSE - THE EXTINCTION EVENT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol3tA...


message 68: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Ready for 6G? How AI will shape the network of the future https://www.technologyreview.com/s/61...

Why 6G research is starting before we have 5G https://venturebeat.com/2019/03/21/6g...


message 69: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments The Terrifying Potential of the 5G Network https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals...
The future of wireless technology holds the promise of total connectivity. But it will also be especially susceptible to cyberattacks and surveillance.


message 70: by yuzzy (new)

yuzzy (yusufii_king) | 23 comments Donald Trump wants 5G/6G As fast as possible. These waves can destroy braincells and cause cancer.
https://thehill.com/policy/technology...


message 71: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments I thought so... 5G may be rushed on the market (with the intel agencies secretly pushing for it) so that our security is not ready to deal with it and therefore our privacy drops to almost zero?


message 72: by James, Group Founder (last edited Apr 28, 2019 03:20AM) (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Iain, what's your thoughts on a cyber 9/11 attack (or a cyber 9/11 false flag attack) coming during this 5G phase where security isn't ready?

And if it was a false flag cyber 9/11, how would the powers that be benefit from that? for example, would they be able to set new regulations where we basically give away any last remaining privacy we have in the name of "national security"? Or would there be other benefits?


message 73: by yuzzy (new)

yuzzy (yusufii_king) | 23 comments This is messed up.


message 74: by Lynn (new)

Lynn | 28 comments I know a handful of homes in Maryland that had to have their microwaves replaced since 5G. One home indicated that the microwave 'would turn itself on'...?


message 75: by yuzzy (new)

yuzzy (yusufii_king) | 23 comments Lynn wrote: "I know a handful of homes in Maryland that had to have their microwaves replaced since 5G. One home indicated that the microwave 'would turn itself on'...?"

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message 76: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments We expanded the 5G Network discussion to our blog this week. Check it out... and feel free to comment.

https://morcanbooksandfilms.com/2019/...


Trinity311Trilogy Davison Eddy  | 7 comments 5G Danger: 13 Reasons 5G Wireless Technology Will Be a Catastrophe for Humanity https://www.globalresearch.ca/5g-dang...

excerpt: "8. 5G Danger: Mutagenic (Causing DNA Damage) and Carcinogenic (Causing Cancer)?

The MMW frequencies of 5G cause mitochondrial DNA damage – which is then passed down generations. 5G is mutagenic. These mutations are inherited by the next generation! This has grave implications for genetic purity. How many people are thinking about this when they can’t stop looking at their screens? This website lists many studies showing the mitochondrial damage that occurs after exposure to EMF radiation."

It will be a disaster.


message 78: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Trinity311Trilogy wrote: "It will be a disaster...."

Have there been any bad health reports from 5G's release?

Or is it too early to tell?


message 79: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Well if they confirm a health problem down the line, they could also release a 5G Protector Shield technology!


message 80: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Iain wrote: "Researchers say 6G will stream human brain-caliber AI to wireless devices

As 5G networks continue to expand in cities and countries across the globe, key researchers have already started to lay th..."


Wow.


message 81: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments RAHUL G and Unlimited G


message 82: by James, Group Founder (last edited Jun 20, 2019 09:52AM) (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments 6G technology market revealed by Mind Commerce https://www.vanillaplus.com/2019/06/2...

About ten years ago, the phrase “Beyond 4G” (B4G) was coined to refer to the need to move beyond what was currently envisioned as part of the evolution for 4G via the Long Term Evolution (LTE) standard.

Since it was not clear what 5G might entail, and only prestandards R&D level prototypes were in the works at the time, the term B4G lasted for a while, referring to what could be possible and potentially useful beyond 4G. Somewhat ironically, the LTE standard is still evolving itself, and some aspects will be used in 5G. In the same vein as B4G, Mind Commerce sees Beyond 5G (B5G) as a pathway to 6G technologies that will render fifth generation capabilities and 5G applications pale in comparison.


message 83: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments AT&T 5G: Our tests yield the wildest speeds yet https://www.cnet.com/news/at-t-5g-our...
At the AT&T Shape conference, we get a taste of the carrier's blazing 5G speeds. And they sure make for smooth mole-whacking.


message 84: by James, Group Founder (last edited Jul 11, 2019 04:27AM) (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Forget 5G and 6G

1G is where it's at!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1G

As of 2018, a limited NMT service in Russia remains the only 1G cellular network still in operation.


message 85: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments 5G - The Global Human Experiment without Consent https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/5g-...


message 86: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments THE US MILITARY’S NEW PHASER, DRONES, AND 5G https://gizadeathstar.com/2019/10/the...

Sometimes you just have to wonder...

In this case, with all the emerging data showing a clear pattern of health problems associated with 5G, I just have to wonder why the Kleptocorruptogarchy is still pushing it, beyond the "internet of things" and their bottomless lust for the power that comes with astronomical wealth. C.J.M. spotted this article and passed it along, and I suspect it may contain a partial answer:

Air Force Set To Deploy Its Counter-Drone "Phaser" Microwave Weapon Overseas https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone...

Now, in the past I have blogged about my suspicions about 5G, including the ideas that it could be used for (1) weather manipulation, and (2) mind manipulation. I have even speculated that with a forest of towers sprouting up, one might actually be looking at (3) the covert construction of a massive phased array antenna system on a continental scale for "other purposes" encompassing everything from ionospheric heating to other "national security" purposes (including the first two). Indeed, I suspect that eventually the Kleptocorruptogarchy will try to "sell" the whole project by invoking "security."


message 87: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Local council bans 5G rollout after residents voiced health concerns https://www.9news.com.au/national/5g-...

A town in southwest England has temporarily banned the local rollout of 5G after locals voiced health concerns related to the new high-speed mobile network.


message 88: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Underreported dangers of electromagnetism and radio waves?

What They Never Bothered to Tell Us... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8-0J...


message 89: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments The Hidden Military Use of 5G Technology https://www.globalresearch.ca/hidden-...

At the London Summit, the 29 member countries of NATO agreed to “guarantee the security of our communications, including 5G”. Why is this fifth generation of mobile data transmission so important for NATO?

While the earlier technologies were perfected to create ever more advanced smartphones, 5G is designed not only to improve their performance, but mainly to link digital systems which need enormous quantities of data in order to work automatically. The most important 5G applications will not be intended for civil use, but for the military domain.

The possibilities offered by this new technology are explained by the Defense Applications of 5G Network Technology, published by the Defense Science Board, a federal committee which provides scientific advice for the Pentagon –

“The emergence of 5G technology, now commercially available, offers the Department of Defense the opportunity to take advantage, at minimal cost, of the benefits of this system for its own operational requirements”.


message 90: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments An Important Question About the Coronavirus, Plus Immune-Support Tips
https://fourfoldhealing.com/blogs/new...
COULD THIS OUTBREAK
BE CONNECTED TO 5G?


message 91: by [deleted user] (last edited Mar 15, 2020 04:33PM) (new)

James wrote: "The Hidden Military Use of 5G Technology https://www.globalresearch.ca/hidden-...

At the London Summit, the 29 member countries of NATO agreed to “guarantee the secu..."


It also requires improvements in tech to the base stations(upgrades to 4G, etc) and more of them, which = $$$.

At present 5G is more suited for dense urban environments than rural ones. Given its restricted range and ability,susceptibility to weather etc, it's ability to be deployed for military use(at least in the foreseeable future) is questionable.

The main security concerns / issues that come from 5G are due to the enlargement of the 'attack surface' that comes as a consequence of the ability to increase the number of devices and IP enabled objects attached.


message 92: by [deleted user] (last edited Mar 15, 2020 04:52PM) (new)

James wrote: "An Important Question About the Coronavirus, Plus Immune-Support Tips
https://fourfoldhealing.com/blogs/new...
COULD THIS OUTBREAK..."


Interesting.

Correlation doesn't necessarily imply causation, but entertain all possibilities and never rule anything out.


message 93: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments ZigZag wrote: "entertain all possibilities and never rule anything out...."

Bingo.


message 94: by Lynn (new)

Lynn | 28 comments I believe that 5G, technically, is not a continuation of
2G......etc.... I stopped upgrading my phone 6 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGkU7...


message 95: by [deleted user] (last edited Mar 17, 2020 04:31AM) (new)

Lynn wrote: "I believe that 5G, technically, is not a continuation of
2G......etc.... I stopped upgrading my phone 6 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGkU7..."


Lynn, I would watch how Brig. Gen. Robert S. Spalding is framing the answer.

Yes, 5g will decrease latency and 'broaden the pipe' to a far greater degree than before and allow for far better real-time interaction; so automation, voice activated apps / devices, VR / AR, Big Data, Smart Cities and so on will take advantage, even changing the way we interact with our phones(or possibly removing the need), but it will still be the endpoint / client device , etc, or software doing the legwork. 5G will allow for far greater tech ubiquity in that context, but it only facilitates it.

As a side note, I don't think 5G will ever penetrate the human skull as efficiently as Patrick Bet-David's scrutinizing gaze.

lol


message 96: by Lynn (new)

Lynn | 28 comments OK, thanks. I appreciate your reply and all your comments and references!


message 97: by [deleted user] (new)

Lynn wrote: "OK, thanks. I appreciate your reply and all your comments and references!"

No problem.

Just to let you know, I am on the fence with 5G.

I take on-board the info and opinion and don't dismiss there could be long-term health implications as much as there could also be alarmist disinfo.


message 98: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Zigzag works for 5g company and is even preparing 6G


message 99: by [deleted user] (last edited Mar 17, 2020 09:46PM) (new)

James wrote: "Zigzag works for 5g company and is even preparing 6G"

That's not strictly true, James.

We're not just any ol 5G company, we're an innovative and dynamic startup that wants to promote not only the dangers of wireless technology, but seek to revolutionize and help individuals via actively promoting the detrimental health benefits of WIFI

It's our belief that everyone should have a chance to be exposed to dangerous levels of X-Ray exposure


message 100: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments ZigZag wrote: "It's our belief that everyone should have a chance to be exposed to dangerous levels of X-Ray exposure..."

Equality and inclusivity right there!


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