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message 851: by Alicia (new)

Alicia Ehrhardt (aliciabutcherehrhardt) | 4836 comments Will wrote: "Mickey goes horse racing, and the devil explains the secret of gambling."

Hehe. You'd think EVERYONE knows that the only percentage that's true is that the house always wins.

They are deliberately like Mickey: they think they odds will be changed in their favor or that the short-term odds will be theirs because they're on a roll. So they ignore math and science on purpose.

Some will tell you playing is thrilling. And top poker players play the players, not the odds (they say), and win.

Expensive form of entertainment - and all that drama.


message 852: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Mickey is definitely getting played.


message 853: by Will (new)

Will Once (willonce) | 3772 comments Maybe we ought to let him win one or two. For the sake of balance?


message 854: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Mickey would need a very big thumb to tip the scales in his favour.


message 855: by Will (new)

Will Once (willonce) | 3772 comments Mickey gets a free pen. Quite possibly the most expensive free pen he will ever own.

https://willonce.wordpress.com/2016/0...


message 856: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments It's got it's tab open.

I'll read it when I get back from shopping.


message 857: by Alicia (new)

Alicia Ehrhardt (aliciabutcherehrhardt) | 4836 comments Will wrote: "Mickey gets a free pen. Quite possibly the most expensive free pen he will ever own."

The only single-item insurance I have bought in the past 20 years was for a camcorder - you couldn't lose, they said, because it got a free cleaning every year.

Can you guess how many times I took it in for its free cleaning?


message 858: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments And never pay the excess when you hire a car!


message 859: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21809 comments Will wrote: "Mickey gets a free pen. Quite possibly the most expensive free pen he will ever own.

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good one, worth sharing on facebook that one :-)


message 860: by Will (new)

Will Once (willonce) | 3772 comments The Mem and I have an adventure in celebrity land. With boobies.

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message 861: by David (new)

David Staniforth (davidstaniforth) | 7935 comments No, no, no, no… What was the relationship between boobies and Rioja-sounds-like-Majorca man?

Make somethink up; I don't care!


message 862: by Will (new)

Will Once (willonce) | 3772 comments It transpires that he is her non-showbiz boyfriend.


message 863: by David (new)

David Staniforth (davidstaniforth) | 7935 comments Hmmm… OK.


message 864: by Will (new)

Will Once (willonce) | 3772 comments I know. It would have suited the story better if there was something nefarious going on. That's the problem with non fiction, I guess. Pesky little things called facts tend to spoil the plot!


message 865: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21809 comments Will wrote: "I know. It would have suited the story better if there was something nefarious going on. That's the problem with non fiction, I guess. Pesky little things called facts tend to spoil the plot!"

Hence the invention of journalism ;-)


Rosemary (grooving with the Picts) (nosemanny) | 8590 comments I just thought Dolly Parton while I was reading :) But I can't see her with a numpty - that is one smart lady


message 867: by Will (new)

Will Once (willonce) | 3772 comments Tackling the important questions of our time. Is "Da Vinci Code" a bad book?

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message 868: by Andrew (new)

Andrew Barrett | 1537 comments No. Everyone said it was at the time, but that's just because it vogue to say it. It was a good read, and I enjoyed it.
However, I think it was the follow up (can't recall the name) that was ruined when the hero fell 45 million feet from a helicopter and survived, needing only a dab of Savlon to be in fine fettle again.


message 869: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21809 comments Will wrote: "Tackling the important questions of our time. Is "Da Vinci Code" a bad book?

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I think it's a good analysis Will


message 870: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments I didn't enjoy it. Only read it cuz there was a copy in a backpacker hotel we stayed in in India. Don't think I finished it.


message 871: by Will (new)

Will Once (willonce) | 3772 comments Continuing on the theme of Da Vinci Code - why do people like books that I hate?

https://willonce.wordpress.com/2016/0...


message 872: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments You should drop a link to that into the writer's cafe thread for discussion, Will.


message 873: by Will (new)

Will Once (willonce) | 3772 comments Good idea. Will do.


message 874: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Do I earn a cookie?


message 875: by Will (new)

Will Once (willonce) | 3772 comments Of course. Oatmeal and raisin from Waitrose? I'll put the kettle on.


message 876: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Disappointingly healthy but okay.

I'd rather a neon green macaroon.


message 877: by Will (new)

Will Once (willonce) | 3772 comments I'll ask the Mem to put that on the shopping list for the next time we're in Waitrose. Can't say I've ever macarooned. I'll have to give it a try.


message 879: by Will (new)

Will Once (willonce) | 3772 comments Mmmm. Looks tempting. In a neon green sort of way. I'm getting a hint of pistachio and lime, don't you think?

But there's only two of them and there are at least three of us. I'll get a selection.


message 880: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments The neon pink ones can be nice, too.

There's bakery in Belguim called Lauderee that does the world's best macaroons.

We've got a satellite shop here in Baku.


message 881: by Alicia (new)

Alicia Ehrhardt (aliciabutcherehrhardt) | 4836 comments Will wrote: "Continuing on the theme of Da Vinci Code - why do people like books that I hate?..."

Donald Maass, on Writer Unboxed, did an analysis of what was good about 50 Shades. Eye opening (he's an agent, writes books about writing, says he's published a bunch of novels under a pseudonym - I suspect Romance). (http://writerunboxed.com/2013/08/06/f...) is the beginning.

I'm glad he did - and may go back and read the series of three again some day - because I couldn't get past page 2 of the books themselves. Ick.

But 'literary' agents (and they talk about cr*p in indie - this was taken up and sold well by a traditional publisher) HAVE to be able to read all kinds of things, so he and Lisa Cron (the brain science in writing woman) analyzed the things that worked in the novels.

Post them becoming bestsellers, not before, but you can't expect agents to look at garbage unless it's successful enough to provide them with income, can you?


message 882: by Will (new)

Will Once (willonce) | 3772 comments Fascinating link - thanks for that.

I couldn't read Fifty Shades because of the writing, but I saw the film. I didn't think it was as bad as people were saying. Admittedly, it's not the Godfather or Citizen Kane, but it was an effective modern love story.

I think there's a problem that writers get when they can't see past bad writing. I know it happens to me. Spelling and grammar mistakes leap off the page. It's almost as if the mistakes were written in neon - because spotting them is part of the editing process. Then it doesn't matter how good the rest of the book is. I have lost it.


message 883: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21809 comments I suspect that may be why I cannot enjoy reading electronic documents, like books on Kindle. It's just work and editing :-(


message 884: by Will (new)

Will Once (willonce) | 3772 comments How to write a bestseller...

https://willonce.wordpress.com/2016/0...


message 885: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Yeah, was gonna say get yer arse in gear and write one then.


message 886: by Will (new)

Will Once (willonce) | 3772 comments Nearly there. I'm 59,000 words into "Love, Death and Wyrds" - the sequel to Love, Death and Tea. The target is 70,000 so I'm definitely on the home stretch.

I think you'll like it. It's Libby's story so more witches than zombies this time. You might even spot people you recognise in there.


message 887: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments I'm really looking forward to it. Let me know as soon as you're ready for a beta reader.


message 888: by Will (new)

Will Once (willonce) | 3772 comments I'll hold you to that! In the next couple of weeks, I think.


message 889: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Good. We're on holiday middle of March so I should have plenty of reading time. If we ever get round to booking a holiday.


message 890: by Will (new)

Will Once (willonce) | 3772 comments Good writing is sometimes about the bits you leave out, rather than the information we put in.

Painting with holes.

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message 891: by David (new)

David Staniforth (davidstaniforth) | 7935 comments Completely agree, Will. Have you read Woolfgang Iser's theory on reader reception and the implied reader. I think you'd appreciate it.


message 892: by Will (new)

Will Once (willonce) | 3772 comments Not yet, but thanks for the tip!


message 893: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21809 comments It reminds me a little of what Jack Vance does when he describes a new world. He just drops in an almost irrelevant detail which allows the reader to assume that the entire world exists at that level of detail.


message 894: by Will (new)

Will Once (willonce) | 3772 comments Excellent point Jim. Here's the second part of painting with holes. This one is all about zingy little nuggets.

https://willonce.wordpress.com/2016/0...


message 895: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21809 comments Another way of writing is to actually keep the Hero/Heroine a little nondescript, because they are the one the reader is hopefully identifying with. So you don't want them to have too many features that make the reader thing "that couldn't be me."
Because we all have a high opinion of ourselves abilities to leap tall buildings aren't a problem, but irritating personal habits probably are :-)


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message 897: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Shan't bother reading it then.


message 898: by Will (new)

Will Once (willonce) | 3772 comments Another one that Patti might not read.

Which of the Beatles were left handed?

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message 899: by Patti (baconater) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments More of 'that's bleeding obvious' than 'd'oh', darling.

Hurry up with the book. I'm on holiday end of the week.


message 900: by Alicia (new)

Alicia Ehrhardt (aliciabutcherehrhardt) | 4836 comments Will wrote: "Another one that Patti might not read.

Which of the Beatles were left handed?"


As a Paul girl, I knew.


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