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Mar 17, 2019 01:03PM
HERE COMETH THE ROBODOCTOR AND THE PROTECT AND SERVE CROWD https://gizadeathstar.com/2019/03/her...
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WTH?! California Grandfather is Told That He’s Dying By ‘Robot’ Doctor https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019... The family of a California man is outraged after a hospital used a robotic “doctor” to break the news to their elderly loved one that he is dying from chronic lung disease.
Iain wrote: "Patient care will be a hard thing to replace with a robot"Might loose a bit of empathy along the way too mate...
Like the 78 year old grandad who was told by the robot "Y-ou wiilll so-oon d-ie"
I'm surprised how much AI has already been implemented, to be honest: especially at this early stage. In life and death situations like medicine and aviation you'd think society would proceed with extreme caution!
Dunno if this is the right thread to post this in...Harvard Scientists Have Discovered The DNA Switch That Controls Whole-Body Regeneration https://www.disclose.tv/harvard-scien...
Humans have long envied animals that are able to regenerate parts of their bodies. Arms, legs, tails, even whole chunks of the organism. Yet despite all the technology and best efforts, humans don't have this ability. However, this could all change. Harvard University uncovered the DNA switch that controls genes for whole body regeneration. This means that one day, humans may be able to grow back lost limbs!
A master regulator of regeneration https://science.sciencemag.org/conten...
Iain wrote: "James wrote: "artificial muscles...wow"Gymbros up and down the country are quaking in their boots!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LS9u...
I actually sold surgical robots and trained surgeons and staff to use them for 10 years. I can tell you honestly that advancements in technology are a great thing for patients and their clinical outcomes in surgery, however in the wrong hands it can be bad. Like we used to say, a robot doesn’t make a bad surgeon better, but makes a skilled surgeon even more capable. The other component that y’all have accurately touched on is use/non-use of AI. The robot that I sold had zero AI-it was only able to move at direction of the physician; it mimicked the surgeons movements through use of “master” controllers at the surgeons fingers...it cut out 100 percent of tremor in hands and allowed for 540 degree wristed action thus allowing for easier access to very difficult anatomy. This coupled with 3D 10x magnified vision would give surgeons opportunities to perform surgeries that otherwise would be relegated to an open procedure type. The key was always the surgeon! I hope to the gods that AI is never a replacement for actual training and skill.
VR is currently being used widely for training much like Pilots use a simulator-it has been proven that the more times you do something correctly in a VR environment of your specialty, the better your outcomes of that given specialty are. The company I worked for went through a phase where they developed early and thus only initially offered “games” that translated to skill sets only to later refine the tech to offer actual procedural based sims. Many hospitals are beginning to require physicians to log a certain number of hours and record progress before added privileges can be given.With regards to holographic tech, there are precursors currently in use as well. The robotic company and the company I currently work for have “overlay” which allows for surgeons to use safe dye(called ICG)intravenously which then used in conjunction with lasers in camera excites the dye which binds with blood in order for surgeons to see perfusion of healthy tissue-currently used in colorectal, kidney, esophageal, cardiac, breast reconstructions, and even in mapping of biliary anatomy. This technology takes guess work out of operating...the surgeons skill is still paramount to the use of this technology, but it is saving lives, re-operations and re-admissions, thus making surgery more clinically and economically effective! This type of technology is leading to other dyes and lasers which will be able to help overlay colors on top of white lights for nerves, ureters, etc. Eventually, diagnostics like this will also allow for holographic mapping.
Really neat stuff out there and more to come!
Surgical robotics-Intuitive Surgical(Davinci and Ion)
CMR Surgical(Versius)
Arus
Procept
Stryker Mako
Globus
Zimmer
J and J/Google(Verb)
ICG overlay technology-
Intuitive(davinci firefly)
Stryker(AIM, Spy Phi and Pinpoint Novadaq)
Medtronic(Visionsense)
Simulation-
Mimic
Simbionix
Other MIS:
Viewray(MRIdian)
Cyber-knife
AR hasn’t quite hit the scene yet outside of planning “builds” of ORs or MRI/proton beam suites. The company I work for will use AR to show surgeons/admin what their fully completed OR would look like-this gives surgeons the opportunity to design ORs to their specs which allows for easier workflow! I’m sure it will continue to grow in and out of the OR.
It will have a decent shelf life for sure because of the human element. Almost all universities in the US are currently requiring residents to learn robotics as an alternate modality to lap and open surgeries. Robotic minimally invasive surgery also becoming very big in Europe,Australia, India, Japan and Korea. It’s shelf life will last as long as there isn’t a paradigm shift like aforementioned testing including nanotechnology, genomic and proteomic testing which paired with MIS biopsies and other predictive tests would possibly eliminate the need for surgery in many instances. To give you an idea of paradigms...open surgery was the good standard until about ten years ago. Laparoscopy, though important, is difficult and requires a lot of learning and clever devices to make it work...it made very little impact on surgical modality penetration. Robotics shifted the paradigm-open surgery for prostate cancer and oncologic gynecology dropped to less than 10 percent when it used to be close to 100 percent. The next big thing will need to challenge the status quo and prove that is as effective as it is minimally invasive.
You're on fire today with brain-machine interfaces, Iain!
Hahaha... Join the club!
Strangulations coming up in AI brothels?
That's amazing. I was positive such gadgets already existed
Iain wrote: "30% Of Workers Would Replace Their Boss With A RobotA common refrain in the media is that people don’t like their boss and people are scared of robots. So I wondered about the truth and nuance to..."
So you think once robots are introduced into populations...and we get used to working along side them, or under them...some people will prefer going about their work with robots rather than humans?
You won't get back-stabbing and work politics etc, I assume. But could there be unforseen downsides to it all? What happens if you had a serious work issue and the robot doesn't have enough empathy to digest the nuances of your "human condition"? What then?
Iain wrote: "Actually a good point mate. I guess then your beholden to the machine's "protocols" to address it and that have been designated by a human, which that could be flawed too..."that's a good point. Unless it's some kind of Deep Learning AI robot, you'll be at the mercy of the set of ethics humans installed into the "device"...
I dunno...The more I think about it all our current ideas about robots being able to handle nuanced work assignments that require emotional understanding are probably more like sci-fi writers' wet dreams. Am starting to think whoever is predicting all this has underestimated how complex and layered human interactions are. Still suspect without consciousness you're just left with very sophisticated "devices"...
Maybe we have got to start at least questioning where all this AI/robotic headline news is coming from? Could there be a financial incentive in releasing exaggerated news stories? Maybe it attracts more investment into robotics and AI?
Agree that alarmist style headlines, or OTT AI stories from Hollywood, could serve a useful purpose.And of course, we don't know what the miltary (of all nations) are doing with classified AI/robotic tech. So maybe on that level it may not be alarmist.
Imagine if they've already created AI robots and released them into the population!
And imagine if this guy is one of the first models released onto the "market" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc6BI...
Iain wrote: "A tech East Germany 2.0 if you will...."Negative on that.
The West's AI robots will not allow that.
but seriously, it's hard to make definitive calls on everything. Hardcore capitalists call everything and anything Stasi or communist-like. Then you have religious fundamentalists calling every 2nd tech invention "the mark of the beast" or Satanic. I remember when EFTPOS was created they were calling that the beginning of the End Times.
So I'm not convinced every Socialist policy is evil. It may well be capitalism needs some infusion of socialism to survive. Likewise, I'm not convinced cryptocurrencies are definitely a failed venture. Anything that moves the power away from the central banking system is probably a good thing.
Have to wait and see how all these things play out, I guess.
Iain wrote: "The problem is the human element in their application...."Yes you're right.
But that could also sound like the perfect pitch for why we need AI robot politicians!
Iain wrote: "I am not so sure that it will do that. Might even solidify their power?..."Well I'm sure if cryptocurrencies continue to be popular, the banking elites will try to hijack the whole thing. Just not sure such currencies can be controlled as easily...
Iain wrote: "Mate, do you ever think they'll do remakes of movies with robots?..."Robotic actors you mean? Or the same plot but robot characters?
Robot actors replacing humans will only ever work in certain action films where there's no deeply philosophical acting required, in my opinion. Consciousness is still the thing that's being underestimated with all these radical AI/robotic predictions, I sense.
Iain wrote: "Got you. What about advances in CGI? Still similar problems?..."That may be a little more competitive as then you're basically replacing actors with editors. So the difference is instead of the editor being restricted by a robot actor giving a "robot-like performance", the scope is wider with CGI as the editor can keep tinkering until he/she gets the desired performance.
But I still think even that will never match your Daniel Day-Lewis level performances. With real humans, they are drawing from the wisdom that comes from all those real-life experiences, including real-world suffering, experiencing births and deaths of loved ones etc, that show up in gestures and micro-expressions on the face.
However, given it could drastically reduce costs, once CGI acting can get closer, you can be sure film producer will try to save costs and do movies that way... Whether such "actors" can satisfy audiences, remains to be seen...
Iain wrote: "Biobots made from muscle propelled by neurons and lighthttps://newatlas.com/medical/biobots-..."
Jesus!
Iain wrote: "Once the robots replicate the dexterity and sensitivity of the 'human hand' it's game on for them and game over for us . . ...."Game over?
You forgot something...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3aqG...
Are you gonna donate your face, Iain? And what happens for the winner? They lose copyright on their own face, I assume?!
Iain, I'd like to challenge you...On that headline you posted further above
"self aware robots"
Any hype in that headline, you think?
Right on! An intellectual duel! (or a braindead duel, let's see!!)self aware implies conscious doesn't it?
are their robots on the planet right now that are aware of themselves and conscious? or are they just carrying out algorithms?
Ok let's call this duel a draw!
James wrote: "Ok let's call this duel a draw!"robotic judges decided that!
Futuristic 'Forward' doctor's office prescribes health care with innovative technology https://www.foxla.com/news/futuristic...LOS ANGELES - You may have come across ads on Facebook, Instagram or any other social platform promoting “Forward.”
Forward is a futuristic kind of doctor's office, founded in 2016, that prescribes health care with innovative technology.
The office is by appointment only so patients can expect zero wait time followed by a quick greeting at the door then a biometric body scan.
Patients step up to a high-tech machine and as Dr. Nate Favini explains it starts by taking your temperature, "it has a very high-resolution sensor in the top of the machine there," he says.
All your basic information is stored then transferred to your exam room so doctors can upload your records directly in front of you and on a big screen.
"We don’t have to guess where your blood vessels are we can just use infrared light." Dr. Favini said. For that reason, wireless tools can be more precise.
The on-site lab allows doctors to get blood work results in under 12 minutes, which is something patients are always amazed to learn. “The fact that instead of getting results in a letter in the mail and having to figure them out on their own, our doctors take the time to go through the results with you." Dr. Favini said. Their style is fast, efficient and most importantly, it allows for more interaction with the patient.
This ain't real (yet) so DON'T PANIC!New Robot Makes Soldiers Obsolete... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3RIH...
A glimpse into the future maybe?
How about human super soldiers and transhumans tho, Iain? Are you factoring those types in?
Scientists Build “First Living Robots” From Frog Stem Cells https://futurism.com/scientists-world..."It's a new class of artifact: a living, programmable organism."
