UK Amazon Kindle Forum discussion

Will wrote: "She owns a husband though, so MTM has the opportunity to observe the phenomenon"

I think we're a bit too comfortable for that. Plus we're both far too crap.

McOther knows that I would shout the other man's name during sex by mistake. I would know straight away if he was shagging two birds at once because he'd be so knackered he'd be a walking zombie... and of course, he'd get confused as to who liked what and do things she liked to me and I'd think 'oy-oy that's new' and guess at once.

Mwah ha hahahrgh!

Cheers

MTM

AND he'd wear clean undies far too often!

Allegedly!

What's all this 'four and five stars from Ignite' business then? Does that mean I'm responsible for you lot? That's a lot to have on anyone's conscience!

Wee let's face it Ignite: someone has to be responsible for us, because we're not up to the job.

Ah, you've got me there!

Your certainly responsible for me being here Ignite. Wife's seen a change in me already.

Will wrote: "Five stars from Ignite is a big Compliment David.

be sure to wave the news around on Amazon.

I used to be a bit sinister, but now I'm a bit dexter instead.

(Ah, ze latin joke.)"

Thanks Will, I've waved it a bit on Amazon, but I'm uncertain of the boundary between enough push and too much. I've checked out your books and want to read some of them too. Too many books to read and not enough time to write. And now this is getting addictive. Anyone invented time travel yet? (sure I wasted a lot of time years back).

David wrote: "Your certainly responsible for me being here Ignite. Wife's seen a change in me already."

Oh heck. My mind is in overdrive!

M.T. wrote: "Hello, how come I never find out when people are talking about me. Hello David, five stars from Ignite is hawt! Well done. ;-)

Cheers

MTM"

Thanks I'm coming to learn it's regarded as something of an achievement (not that I didn't appreciate it before, Ignite, honest). I never find out when people are talking about me but I'm sure they are. Maybe they're not! why?

David, if you stick to the 'Meet Our Authors' section on Amazon, then you are OK to self promote anywhere. However, just watch which threads - join in the chatty one's first, then hit the spam and carry on chatting.

And we all waste time chatting and promoting, it's how we avoid actually writing.

Thanks Will. I need to get that third book done (not a third in the series - I think that's going to be like a band's difficult third album).

I didn't find the third one hard. It's the fifth that's causing me some problems, because I really want to make it better than the others. And by now I have had all my faults pointed out to me....

See, fifth book. How showy-offy is THAT?
Fnar, fnar!

I'm not even thinking five yet. Too daunting

Ignite wrote: "See, fifth book. How showy-offy is THAT?
Fnar, fnar!"

It's the only thing I've got to flaunt.

Sadly.

Ah.... All say Ah for Will.. One, two, three, AHHHH!

AHHH! Sorry Will had to join in. The ladies scare me!

Haha! My work here is done! ;)

I won't mention the dungeon then.

Best not. We were all getting on so well...

David can't be a group member until he's been dragged to the Dungeon though, can he?

I've never been in there.

GL doesn't torture you girls, though

Girls! Ah, bless 'im!

Mainly becuse she knows you would complain about the spiders, and the state of the Iron maiden. All those hard to shift stains...

Will wrote: "I didn't find the third one hard. It's the fifth that's causing me some problems, because I really want to make it better than the others. And by now I have had all my faults pointed out to me...."


Well number 3 is off to the Publishers, it'll be waiting for them when they switch the computer on come Monday morning

Will wrote: "Mainly becuse she knows you would complain about the spiders, and the state of the Iron maiden. All those hard to shift stains..."

But I would distract her by playing noises of chickens being tortured!

(Of course I would never do that Ignite)

I don't know how you'd tell. They always sound like that!

Non member or dungeon? hmmm? Difficult one

Jim wrote:

Excellent news, Jim. And Davie is out in paperback now.
It's all very positive for us, isn't it?

I want my book on paper. How's it done?

David wrote: "I want my book on paper. How's it done?"

If it is succeeding as an ebook it probably won't be too hard to find a publisher. Otherwise it's print of demand and sell them yourself

David, have you tried submitting any work to anyone?

If not, have a look at Davie's guys, Ecanus Publishing.

My lot would look at something that isn't in your series.

But beware of one thing: submission guidelines are there to help publishers turn people away. Whatever the guidelines from any publisher or agent, follow them to the exact letter

Lots of Indie authors do feedaread or createspace. Try googling them. Print on Demand, it's called, or POD.
Anyway, what are you still doing here? Book number 3 won't write itself!

Jim wrote: "David wrote: "I want my book on paper. How's it done?"

If it is succeeding as an ebook it probably won't be too hard to find a publisher. Otherwise it's print of demand and sell them yourself"

Quatify, succeeding as an ebook, Jim, sold about twenty of first book so far three of second. I don't think any publishers will be tripping over each otherinthe race to sign me. Early days yet though, I suppose, about a month to date.

Will wrote: "David, have you tried submitting any work to anyone?

If not, have a look at Davie's guys, Ecanus Publishing.

My lot would look at something that isn't in your series.


But beware of one thing: su..."

Tried a number of agents and a few publishers, with the first kindle book. 'Not right for list but enjoyable read', was general reply.

"Not something from my series", you say; is that because I've already started selling/e-published?

Blimey, good going, the tersest rejection I've had so far just said, 'no'.

So... Will's written five books and Jim's written two in the time it takes me to not manage to write one. Book 3 is doing my head in and I don't really know why. I can't tell if I'm having a creative hissy fit about nothing or if I've broken it. I think the other stuff in my life is probably not giving me the emotional slack to write at the moment, which is ironic because it's times like this when I really need to escape into planet cuckoo.

We all had some bug last week. McMini was off school a day and a half, I felt a bit rough and McOther is in so much pain that I shoved him in the car and took him to the out of hours Dr this morning...

I've bought some book planning software for thirty five dollars... anyone ever tried anything like that?

Cheers

MTM

Don't sweat it. MTM. I don't write at a straightline even rate. Some days I don't get much down at all. I've only managed about 5 pages in 10 days the last 2 weeks. let it come out at it's own pace, and if yu are having plot issues, just let the characters do it for you....

Best to Mcother, hope he's better soon

Will wrote: "Don't sweat it. MTM. I don't write at a straightline even rate. Some days I don't get much down at all. I've only managed about 5 pages in 10 days the last 2 weeks. let it come out at it's own ..."

Yeh, that's where the fuzzy head comes in... I'm not 100% they know what they're doing, whereas last week, when The Pan was stuck, I just let him have a think about it for a while and he pretty much worked it out for himself.

Ho hum.

Cheers

MTM

Thought I'd just share this, as I've literally just read it. I'm claiming to be doing research for my latest paranormal mystery my reading some Agatha Christie. One of her characters, an author, has just said: 'One actually has to think, you know. And thinking is such a BORE. And I'm always getting in a mess, too. You have to plan things, and I'm always getting stuck, and you feel like you'll never get out of the mess - but you do! Writing is not particularly enjoyable, it's hard work, just like everything else.'


Discuss.....

Will wrote: "Thought I'd just share this, as I've literally just read it. I'm claiming to be doing research for my latest paranormal mystery my reading some Agatha Christie. One of her characters, an author, ..."

She's probably right. I wonder if the author was peering out through the eyes of her character at that point ;-)

It can be hard work, as you struggle with a bit. The book that has just gone off has taken a lot of struggling with to get it right, to make sure everyone was acting reasonably within their own eyes etc and to make sure that it worked.
Toughest yet to be honest.

Will wrote: "Don't sweat it. MTM. I don't write at a straightline even rate. Some days I don't get much down at all. I've only managed about 5 pages in 10 days the last 2 weeks. let it come out at it's own pace, and if yu are having plot issues, just let the characters do it for you....

Best to Mcother, hope he's better soon ..."

Yes, I find I can end up 'worrying' at a problem like a dog with a bone, sometimes I worry my way through, sometimes I put it down, walk away and get on with something else, then come back fresh and it works

But yes, best to McOther

Oh I remember that quote - it was Ariadne Oliver, wasn't it. Agatha Christie admitted that she was based on her. I always liked her as a character.

Blimey Ginger, that's impressive, knowing that. Thanks guys, you're both right and yes, I do have to poke at it, every time I have a prod - like over the last hour or so - I think yeh, it's getting better, then I read it and think uh-oh. It does all come right in the end but yeh, getting everyone to act the way they should... it's partly the way I write, I tend to write the emotional conflicts as a scene and then I alter it until it ties in with the plot... the further you get into a story the harder it is. Three books has given this time to get very complicated! ;-)

It will get there, I think I just get frustrated because there is so much other stuff getting in the way.

Cheers

MTM

I must admit I will often write the story and then draw out the emotional conflicts that arise from it.
That way at least plot details are right :-)

That's the sensible way to do it. I get the conversation first, then I find out who's talking, what about and why. It's very strange.

Cheers

MTM

Ooooooo

What a lovely, interesting thread!

See GL? Chocolate fountains, squid porn and custard aren't always necessary topics. ;)

Having said that....

http://www.instructables.com/id/Choco...

There's book planning software?

(I'm out of thesping mode now, so there's room in my brain for things other than lines - like writing and *editing*!)

You've made me feel better about that third book MTM.

I get my best ideas for writing when I first wake-up. This morning I thought I'd rather be a nail than a hammer! Don't know what I'm going to do with it.

Patti. That is just vile. Why would one boil oit the flavour. That's the best bit.
Tim. It's something open source. I got it because I thought I was having timeline difficulties and I wanted to see it laid out. What it showed me that I have been trying to foist a neat plot on a bunch of characters who have other ideas. It's dead clever though. I fully intend to use it for the next one. It might be a bit late for the w.i.p.

I'm using my phone at the moment and so I cant check what it's called. Something like Scrivener only not.

Cheers

MTM

Well, you'd have to cover them in custard as well, of course.

Sheesh