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do you see it falling under a different branch of magic? i was a little iffy on where to put it

i do think for sure something difficult like atla bloodbending because of the control over someone's organs

tbh, i really don't know what type of magic it would be... although, i mean, healing is transmutation, right? so i believe that makes the most sense?

Potentially dumb question:

Do they have radios yet? Sorry, I can't remember if this was already asked or not.

That's not been asked yet and it's not dumb! They don't have iPhones and Rokus but yeah, probably magical radios xD

Okay, thanks! I was thinking about maybe giving my Stormvale character like a little local, renegade radio broadcast or something that he runs for fun in his spare time. Probably down in Asterath or something.

ooh, fun

I haven't decided what exactly I'll do with that, but I thought it was a neat idea. They probably shouldn't let Alex anywhere it though haha ;)

bwhaha, yeah prob not XD Teddy, on the other hand, could possibly help if there were any technical difficulties :)

Oooh, that's a really good idea! I hadn't thought of that :D

:D

at what age do coven initiates start like training or whatever?

depends on the person. if they're very closely related to the coven and their family has generations of members, likely the same time kids enter cogworks. if they learn about the coven later in life, it could even be after they leave cogworks. you have room to do what you want there

oh, okay, so like really young. i see. so they really have like five-year-old initiates?

it's not like the super little ones are attending meetings or are full fledged members of the coven in any real way, but they need to start young if they want to keep the family magic alive

alright, makes sense

if someone was murdered with magic, would there be any signs of that? would they be able to tell in an autopsy, and would the signs fade in a certain amount of time?

oooh smart question! i think probably yes, because say somebody throws a lightning like percy jackson style then yeah it would be obvious that someone did that. magic residue i'm not sure but like if zyx did blood vessel shattering then yes

maybe magic residue yes for any magic as like a fingerprint or stain on something that goes away just as quickly as the magic essence fades on death

ok, so I haven't quite decided on what exactly they did in the situation I'm working on atm. prob some obscure spell tbh. idk XD

hmm, intruiging. so, wait how long is that again? and would that be able to be linked to like a specific person? or no?

i can't remember what we said, but i think it was 20-30 minutes? but don't quote me on that. it certainly wasn't long. and potentially you'd be able to tell if you're intimately familiar with that person's magic, but if not, no

ok. hmm, so, like, depending on the spell, they could potentially still be able to tell it had been magic, even after that?

ok, so from what i see in the ongoing plot thread, magic is fully retained in the body for like 30 minutes, between thirty minutes and one hour it starts to leave, and it's completely gone within twenty-four hours at the longest? so i presume it would be the same for magical residue from the spell used to kill them? so, prob not long enough for them to actually detect it, or...

like, what exactly does the militia do when it comes to murder scenes? also, would they be involved in a murder that took place in asterath, like, prior to the whole runalithe squad thing? and what if someone in asterath messaged them about a murder?

yeah it's more than likely that it's the same both ways. probably about the same as the real world police investigator force, but they also work on magic. like physical evidence and figuring out how magic was incorporated. elizabeth help this is for you

sorry, this is what i get for incorporating so much murder lmao

sorry I've been fighting phone space for an hour lmao
um. well. I think beforehand, obviously the militia had no real pull in asterath, but, I could see some people in Asterath reaching out to them out of fear and being unsure what else to do. And in that case, I could see them helping, because they know there are innocent people in asterath who need help and assistance, so honestly, i could see the militia forming an Asterath branch of people who do go and help if someone reached out to them about a murder or violent crime.
And truly, Cal and Katarina have long wanted to somehow find a way to work on helping people in asterath/find ways to stop the murders and drug busts and violent thefts of the two worst gangs, so they would not be opposed to stepping in and tbh sending people undercover even though theoretically they had no pull there. always just to see if there was any way they could help lower crime, at all? If that makes sense?
but yeah, if someone reached out to them about a murder, they would probably come down there, even undercover, as I cannot see asterath's council nor serpentine liking that very much should they have known?

also yeah, I mean in general they have dealt with murders before, both magical and not. that is not new to them at all.

ok, thanks! yeah, I was thinking of having had Elliot be working on the case, if that lines up? yeah, Adrien is actually a voxthain citizen, and would have sent a message to them, although the murder took place in Asterath, and the victim was an Asterath citizen.

but yeah, I doubt either the gangs or the council would approve, so any militia work down there would have secretive and undercover

wait when is this case? like would elliot have been an investigator at the time, or was this before he joined the militia? Because something I believe is that no matter what it is, someone has to undergo training, so factor that into probably the whole backstory too. elliot couldn't just join up and become an investigator, at least as far as I was thinking, like Katarina has people train before they join officially! so depending on when the case was, if it as in someone's past, it probably wasn't Elliot, or he'd be in training? or if the case is yet to happen, or was a year ago, then yes

also, not sure if this is relative, but arachniads do have male members, right? like, there aren't any created, but is that just a coincidence?

I think it was somewhere between a year to fix months ago? possibly even more recent, I haven't exactly decided on the timeline yet lol. buy def no longer than a year ago. i just wanted to make it Elliot so I could potentially do a memory logs at some point, lol. since I gotta stick to my own characters for those XD

it's the case of the murder of Adrien's fiance, so it had to be pretty recent.

pretty sure any gender can be in any gang.

and yeah okay so id recent then yes Elliot could be on the case, I think. Wait when did he join the militia though? A few years ago right?

I think? wait, now I don't remember lol. wait... i feel like he joined up like right after graduation, so... hmmm

but tbh, I think this was less than a year ago? not sure tho, gotta work out the length of different parts of the backstory lol

I have no idea how long training would be, my issue is Katarina wouldnt just let him have a case unless he’s properly trained. Or anyone for that matter

i think it's nearing two years since he's joined.

I guess I could potentially use an npc detective?

if it was too early, I could also possibly have him have been like involved, as training, with someone else actually being the lead on the case idk

I mean if the murder was like three months ago that could work?

Other thing is I genuinely don’t know how long the training would take. Because some people like ivorii and cal have been training since childhood so when they joined post grad they were already pretty good soldiers. But Elliot and some others had no previous training so I genuinely don’t know how that process would work?

ok, so I'll think about it. anyway, I'm sure a like npc detective would be a viable option if I do wanna do logs?

yeah, idk how long training would be ah, the militia nepo babies XD

mods am I allowed to say maybe the militia has a pretty serious school for people who are interested in joining post grad? Like an after-school program for anyone who thinks maybe their direction post grad will be militia? (and now cal offers self defense classes for women and children, but i think thats unrelated)

As well as a militia school for anyone who joins post-cogworks with no previous training?

am I allowed to have there be an npc investigator who comes to the wrong conclusion in the case? the militia can't solve the case in order for everything to work out

I don’t see why not! Again tho there’s two of them so it depends on who was investigator at the time

ok, so there's only ever two investigators? ugh, I guess I really need to figure out the timeline, why is this so much more complicated than I expected? 😭 XD

presumably? Then again I was just going based off the claims where there are two, but I wouldn’t say no to there being three!

I'm just trying to work this out lol. we don't have any info on who the previous investigators are, do we? and any idea as for how long ago Elliot would have like become an investigator?

I know haha. It’s a process I should have thought about months ago, I am so sorry. XD and no, which is why I wanted to ask about the whole militia school and timeline. That’s what I’m unsure about, I genuinely can’t see Katarina throwing untrained people into the force at all in any way XD so there would have to be a training period that either differs for everyone or is a set program. Like I think Ivorii was in the investigator part of the militia since graduation, but again she’s been working at it since she was a kid, so I don’t know. Maybe Elliot trained for a year and has been an investigator for a year? I am unsure haha

well, look at it like this: the US army has a 29 week boot camp, the Marines 23 weeks. don't know if you wanna use that for like smth to compare to but yeah

*10 weeks and 13 weeks, what the heck are those typos? 😭😅